Post by: Kain on October 03, 2010, 10:14:14 PM
cougar_0001.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MenS1me_sJU#)
Post by: bear on October 04, 2010, 06:36:58 AM
Post by: Gutpile on October 04, 2010, 07:07:25 AM
If he'd edit out 6-7 minutes of his chest thumping and "yes yes yes yes" stuff it's be better. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: woodman on October 04, 2010, 07:39:52 AM
Post by: elkhuntindad on October 12, 2010, 10:05:14 PM
Post by: dirty24d on October 12, 2010, 10:18:50 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 12, 2010, 10:35:33 PM
Post by: bobcat on October 12, 2010, 10:40:10 PM
I'm wondering what the hell is he wearing orange for ??? Camouflage with orange over the top of it. Makes a lot of sense. Don't cats see color?
Post by: haugenna on October 12, 2010, 10:40:46 PM
Post by: haugenna on October 12, 2010, 10:42:29 PM
Post by: bobcat on October 12, 2010, 10:43:57 PM
Post by: Machias on October 12, 2010, 10:58:50 PM
Post by: Wyoming08 on October 12, 2010, 11:09:11 PM
Post by: elkslare on October 12, 2010, 11:24:53 PM
Post by: woodman on October 13, 2010, 04:55:01 AM
Post by: haugenna on October 13, 2010, 05:52:06 AM
I always love it when someone does something successfully in life and then people told them how they did it wrong, even though they probably have not accomplished it themself.
Anything worth doing you might as well do it right the first time and every time. I was just pointing out that he tipped the odds in the cats favor big time with the no no's.
I have never hunted a day in my life for a cat, so no, I am not as succesful of a hunter as this guy.
Post by: rasbo on October 13, 2010, 06:14:40 AM
Post by: Machias on October 13, 2010, 08:03:53 AM
I always love it when someone does something successfully in life and then people told them how they did it wrong, even though they probably have not accomplished it themself.
I think you misunderstand the critical comments. Are you saying you think this is the way to do it? We have all done things wrong and gotten lucky. But if folks want to be consistent and not do a once in a lifetime event, then even he should look at this and say what can I do better next time. I venture to say he could go out and do this a thousand times and never call in another cat....then again he could go out the next time and get lucky again. I have called in plenty of bears and three cats so far, and I've made plenty of mistakes. I try and learn from those and get better each time. That's all these comments are.
Post by: rainshadow1 on October 13, 2010, 08:55:17 AM
He saw it, then went over and set up on it. Obviously didn't have a clue what he was doing, but as you can see, it didn't matter! Goes to show how knowing where one is at is 90% of the battle. Definatley a young, dumb cat, but hey, he tagged it!
I've heard several cougars, live in the timber, second hand (stories), and on video now, calling back to distress. My theory is that young cats relate distress to a social interaction, because they've only heard distress when they were with Mom or littermates while making a kill. They've never heard prey distress when another cat wasn't there. So they call out to it.
I think it's a pretty good theory...
Post by: bobcat on October 13, 2010, 09:01:57 AM
Post by: Kain on October 13, 2010, 11:57:24 AM
Sure that wasn't you, Kain?!?! Take a trip to AZ lately?
He saw it, then went over and set up on it. Obviously didn't have a clue what he was doing, but as you can see, it didn't matter! Goes to show how knowing where one is at is 90% of the battle. Definatley a young, dumb cat, but hey, he tagged it!
I've heard several cougars, live in the timber, second hand (stories), and on video now, calling back to distress. My theory is that young cats relate distress to a social interaction, because they've only heard distress when they were with Mom or littermates while making a kill. They've never heard prey distress when another cat wasn't there. So they call out to it.
I think it's a pretty good theory...
I wish it was me but sadly I have never even seen a cougar in my 20+ years of hunting.
That sounds like a reasonable theory. Maybe he has had good luck stealing kills also and hasnt learned that its important to be quite.
As far as the orange and shiny gun my theory is a little movement and/color might be a good thing as long as they dont recognize you as a threat. If a predator hears distress Im sure it expects to see something making it and causing it. Thats why decoys work even if they dont look like anything specific. As long as you dont look human and dont go overboard it might not be as critical as we think. ? :dunno:
Post by: Vanguard30-06 on October 13, 2010, 01:35:41 PM
background :chuckle:
Post by: BlackRidge on October 13, 2010, 01:38:44 PM
Did anybody else think that cat was going to jump up and rip his face off with the slasher music playing in the
background :chuckle:
nah, I was too busy laughing at the "YES! YES! YES! YES!" + Fistpumps :chuckle:
Post by: elkman54 on October 13, 2010, 07:16:24 PM
Post by: bobcat on October 13, 2010, 07:17:42 PM
Orange not required in AZ for hunting predators, but he was hunting on a military installation down by Tucson. May be a requiement while hunting on Army Fort.
That explains it. Thanks. That baffled me, why anyone would wear orange while trying to call in predators.
Post by: woodman on October 13, 2010, 07:31:27 PM
Machias, I would say that you are a much better caller than I am. You must have learned a lot to have that kind of success!I always love it when someone does something successfully in life and then people told them how they did it wrong, even though they probably have not accomplished it themself.
I think you misunderstand the critical comments. Are you saying you think this is the way to do it? We have all done things wrong and gotten lucky. But if folks want to be consistent and not do a once in a lifetime event, then even he should look at this and say what can I do better next time. I venture to say he could go out and do this a thousand times and never call in another cat....then again he could go out the next time and get lucky again. I have called in plenty of bears and three cats so far, and I've made plenty of mistakes. I try and learn from those and get better each time. That's all these comments are.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 13, 2010, 07:39:59 PM
Post by: mulehunter on October 13, 2010, 08:00:05 PM
Mulehunter
Post by: Machias on October 13, 2010, 08:29:31 PM
Machias, I would say that you are a much better caller than I am. You must have learned a lot to have that kind of success!I always love it when someone does something successfully in life and then people told them how they did it wrong, even though they probably have not accomplished it themself.
I think you misunderstand the critical comments. Are you saying you think this is the way to do it? We have all done things wrong and gotten lucky. But if folks want to be consistent and not do a once in a lifetime event, then even he should look at this and say what can I do better next time. I venture to say he could go out and do this a thousand times and never call in another cat....then again he could go out the next time and get lucky again. I have called in plenty of bears and three cats so far, and I've made plenty of mistakes. I try and learn from those and get better each time. That's all these comments are.
Nope, just LOTS of stands. I call a bear in about every 25 or so stands. I believe we all call in MORE lions then we know, however I believe with rainshadow's new sounds that number will come down a fair bit, as far as lions are concerned. :hello:
Post by: Kain on October 13, 2010, 09:02:26 PM
Post by: Big10gauge on October 13, 2010, 09:19:13 PM
Not saying it can't be done.
Post by: Hangfire on October 14, 2010, 06:11:35 AM
Post by: Elkpiss on October 15, 2010, 02:08:58 PM
Post by: bobcat on October 15, 2010, 09:28:08 PM
Post by: seth30 on October 15, 2010, 09:37:38 PM
Post by: JoeVon on October 15, 2010, 10:17:27 PM
Post by: bobcat on October 15, 2010, 10:25:01 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 16, 2010, 04:12:26 PM
I always love it when someone does something successfully in life and then people told them how they did it wrong, even though they probably have not accomplished it themself.
Boy, oh boy, do I agree. Most people never ever will see a cougar and would sh!t themselves if they did. People always find something wrong with stuff like this. Can't criticize the guy, he's the one that got the cat. I had my gun on one 2 years ago. I was shaking so bad I couldn't of shot it if I wanted too, which I did !!!! I used to be on Primos Cabin Chat.You talk about a bunch of backasswards people. Criticized everything. :'(
Post by: bobcat on October 16, 2010, 04:31:07 PM
Post by: Kain on October 16, 2010, 05:03:49 PM
Still a cool video to me. Called in to close range with hand calls, no decoys, less than ideal camouflage and taken with a shotgun. How rad is that. Just goes to show that you will never get anything sitting around looking at a computer, no matter how good your technique is. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: sivart33 on October 17, 2010, 09:56:12 AM
I'd just never seen or heard of anybody calling predators while wearing orange. :dunno:
there is a video of someone calling yotes in a Santa suite. its not about color, its about movement
Post by: bobcat on October 17, 2010, 01:11:49 PM
I'd just never seen or heard of anybody calling predators while wearing orange. :dunno:
there is a video of someone calling yotes in a Santa suite. its not about color, its about movement
True but how many people do you know that wear orange while calling predators? Not only that, but he WAS sitting right in the open, and he WAS moving around a lot.
Post by: Ihuntelk2 on October 17, 2010, 01:23:19 PM