Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: bushmaster on October 06, 2010, 10:54:46 AM
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A small group of us were hunting in Lincoln 136. One guy got a 3x3,after closer inspection of the 2 deer that are now in camp, they looked different! The 4x4 mulie was "A" typical! The 3x3 had real white,short and wide rack, so it had the body of a mule deer and the color markings of a whitetail, and the rack or a whitetail. So with that being said, has anyone SEEN this? Ive heard about it for ever, but have never seen till now.
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I have hunted that area for almost 20 years and have never seen anything like you are describing. I supose it is possible. I see them feeding together all the time. So where are the pics?
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Pics would be nice, interesting to see it. Would make a cool mount.
Joe
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Yes, they do cross breed. I worked at a fishing/golf club in wyoming and i saw at least a dozen bucks that were crossed....i.e. white tail rack on one side, mulie on the other. whitetail rack and mulie body & tail. I have not seen any here in WA but if they could do it there then the species are capable of cross breeding.
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I've seen pictures of cross bread mulies and white tails. Never seen any around here though. Pics would be nice, would make a cool mount.
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There in the ritzville gmu. The guy I hunt with is a farmer in washtucna and he has seen them.
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I saw one in Chewuck years ago. Last day of season. Young one was runnin with two WT doe's. I had to take a double take and wait till he turned hind end at me before I knew. His face just didn't look right. Small rack too. Not stalky like a Columbia Coos WT. Big bodied.
-Steve
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We need pic's :o :o For those of us that have never encountered one
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No! Could have a White tail with Mulie rack and scrunched up face.
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we see them all the time in 130
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we have had a few bench leg/ whitetail cross bucks show up. talk about a mixed up deer :chuckle: one was a stud my grandmother killed :drool:
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I'm convinced my daughters 09 deer from unit 139 was a cross. Wish I had better pics. It's body was the same color and build as a muley. It had a whity's tail but all black, and it had shorter legs. The antlers were like a whitetail. Weird deer, but tasty.
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Seen a few in the Northeast corner of the state
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You said as I read, it has the body of a mule deer and the rack of a white tail. If that is right, it probably is a mule deer. Many 3 point mule deer have antlers that if you judged them alone, could pass for white tail antlers. It also is not to uncommon to see the g-2 point have a small fork on white tails, in a all white tail population. From what I have read, a cross will have a different type of tail and possible ears. The metatarsal gland will be different in length from either mule deer or white tail. According to one reference book I have, the metatarsal gland on a mature mule deer will be 3.5 to 5.5 inches in length. The metatarsal gland of a white tail will be less than 1.5 inch often with white marginal hairs. I read some where that a cross Will have a metatarsal gland length between that of the mule deer and white tail.
They cross, and I imagine the off spring of a cross, will cross with one or the other, really messing up the characteristics.
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I've got a quick clarification question on deer, esp. with crosses. Do the deer regulations for the GMU apply in regards to the antler restrictions only and not necessarily the specific deer type in the case of an out of place deer or a cross bred one? IE if you are in 3pt mulie turf and drop a 3pt deer that is white tail is that okay or it has to have been a mulie? If it is an issue where do the cross breds fall into the mix? Something I've been meaning to get clarification on so now seems like a good time to inquire. :)
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The regs are for the species of deer, look at the tail and ensure your looking at the right species before looking at the horns to see if it's legal. :twocents:
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The regs are for the species of deer, look at the tail and ensure your looking at the right species before looking at the horns to see if it's legal. :twocents:
I kinda figured that was the way it was but I didn't know since it would basically make whitetails protected species in mulie turf and vice versa.
I see for mulie/black tail areas they allow either even though they label the areas differently.
