Post by: iceman91m on October 16, 2010, 09:19:10 AM
Thanks!!!
Post by: Mustangman on October 20, 2010, 08:30:55 PM
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Post by: Jamieb on October 20, 2010, 10:23:52 PM
I run leupolds with turrets on my long range rifles and the 3.5X10X40 is my favorite but most of the areas I hunt, I'm hunting both open clearcuts and thick timber in the same day. My varmint rifles wear 6X18's or 6.5x20's but the most x's I will run on a big game rifle is 4.5X14 but hunt anywhere that is all open enough to have a rifle that is only for long range.
Post by: G.R.K on October 20, 2010, 10:39:01 PM
Post by: iceman91m on October 21, 2010, 10:58:23 AM
IMHO the nightforce is a great scope for a heavy gun but too big and heavy for most hunting rifles.
I run leupolds with turrets on my long range rifles and the 3.5X10X40 is my favorite but most of the areas I hunt, I'm hunting both open clearcuts and thick timber in the same day. My varmint rifles wear 6X18's or 6.5x20's but the most x's I will run on a big game rifle is 4.5X14 but hunt anywhere that is all open enough to have a rifle that is only for long range.
I also live in WA. What area do you hunt and what do you hunt for?
Post by: iceman91m on October 21, 2010, 11:01:25 AM
Post by: iceman91m on October 21, 2010, 11:03:12 AM
Have M1'S or CDS turrets put on that Leupold VX-3 3.5-10x40. :dunno:
I honestly dont really like the scope, I want something bigger. I have poor eyesight
Post by: Lightning_Rider on October 21, 2010, 11:23:04 AM
Post by: MichaelJ on October 21, 2010, 11:24:58 AM
Just remember that the "calibrated" turrets for most rifles are not accurate for all weather conditions and elevations. Point of impact between 1500' ASL and 7000' ASL can be quite a bit depending on your setup and I wouldn't trust them for shooting game much past 400-500 yds or so depending on what the setup was.
Mike
Post by: MichaelJ on October 21, 2010, 07:49:32 PM
Mike
Post by: jjhunter on October 21, 2010, 08:25:15 PM
Post by: MichaelJ on October 22, 2010, 06:30:27 PM
I was able to lay down my best group tonight with the new 280 ackley... got a whoppin .11 MOA 3 shot group at 100 yards with fireforming loads! Still haven't shot any of the ackley loads yet but am gettin anxious!
Mike
Post by: jjhunter on October 23, 2010, 06:26:32 PM
Post by: MichaelJ on October 24, 2010, 07:09:34 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv458%2FMoparKid69%2F73394_10150304033510107_529275106_15410630_1664553_n.jpg&hash=a10a6f9f3297b22d9cd0a3cdefb02a4f63b2ec6a)
Mike
Post by: MtnMuley on October 27, 2010, 03:46:25 PM
Post by: MichaelJ on October 27, 2010, 07:41:32 PM
Huskemaw. Once you put in the work learning how to shoot LR, this scope will hang with any of them. 855 yd pass though last week on a bull, left him in his tracks. If I thought there was a better LR system out there for hunting purposes, I'd buy it. ;)
They are good scopes, I've never used one but from what I understand you 'zero' you're turrets at each yardage such as 100, 200, 300, 400...etc??? And unless you're able to zero your turrets with these scopes at the same elevation and environmental conditions as what you'll be shooting your game at, then you're POI can be drastically different at longer ranges... especially without high BC bullets. Please correct if i'm wrong...
Mike
Post by: MtnMuley on October 28, 2010, 08:15:34 AM
Post by: rbros on October 28, 2010, 08:31:37 AM
If you are going to put the time into verifying drop data, then the Nightforce scopes with a NP-R1 reticle are hard to beat. They give you MOA windage and elevation. You dial for a shot, if its off for whatever reason, the marks on the reticle allow a quick followup. They are what I generally put on rifle packages, and run on all of my personal rifles ....hunting and competition. They are dependable and rock solid. A little heavier than I would like, but the reliability is worth the little extra weight.
My main hunting rifle has been all over the Western states, up mountains, beat around on quads and trucks, dropped, packed in backpacks, scope maxed out for elevation a couple times, and still hasn't moved zero in 4 years of using it. Groups like this:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi104.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm175%2F7mmam%2Fgroups002.jpg&hash=0a2c1dff5a9b45295ede3154c042cf3aab8e6b7e)
Post by: jjhunter on October 28, 2010, 08:50:53 AM
I shoot NF for consistency (tracking) and reliability (literally, bullet proof) - In the long range game, this is paramount.
I also shoot the NP-R1 reticle - best long range hunting reticle out there.
Post by: longrange7mm on October 28, 2010, 09:11:41 AM
Huskemaw. Once you put in the work learning how to shoot LR, this scope will hang with any of them. 855 yd pass though last week on a bull, left him in his tracks. If I thought there was a better LR system out there for hunting purposes, I'd buy it. ;)+1 ive shot alot of Huskemaws and have yet to have a problem with them, and for a newbie that is just getting into it the scope is perfect :twocents:
Post by: MichaelJ on October 28, 2010, 11:25:05 AM
Not true. That's what makes the Huskemaw system the best in my opinion MichaelJ. Different turrets for different elevations, temperatures, and windages. Once you're at your zero, you take off the turret and swap it for another turret for different conditions, and you're ready to rock. Once you get your gun completely dialed in, you send them the info the they built the turrets for you. However, I perfer to leave the MOA turret on the gun, and make hundreds of cheat sheets for all the elevations I hunt. Windage is built in with hashmarks. They are seem very precise with their turrets. I have several friends that weren't happy sending their gun off to them to do the work though. We did everything ourselves and have several hundred hours into them. I also have an angle co-sign indicator on my rail to determine the shot angle. That info is also on my cheat sheets with each elevation and temperature. I use high BC bullets, so I've never seen a problem with down range accuracy.
I stand corrected then...
As far as the NP-R1reticle goes on the nightforce they look like this:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstore.thirdgenerationshootingsupply.com%2Fprodimg%2FNFNXS1556NPR1.jpg&hash=6a1241d6be9ae5d1ba6b1a455e0b33e8b400d3e7)
The lines are either MOA or MIL based so if you are in the field and see an animal at say 700 yds with no wind,instead of dialing up your turrets for say 4 mils or 14.4 MOA you would just use the reticle hash mark that represents 14.5 MOA or 4 MILS. A lot of guys will dial for elevation and use their reticle for windage adjustments...
Post by: MichaelJ on October 28, 2010, 11:26:16 AM
Mike
Post by: MtnMuley on October 28, 2010, 11:45:36 AM
Post by: jjhunter on October 28, 2010, 12:25:24 PM
Don't you use a fixed reticle with many lines on it jj? I thought a while back you said you didn't use a turret.
I use a turret if I have time; however, a true 1 MOA elevation reticle allows very quick and accurate shot placement at extended ranges.
Post by: Wile E. Hunter on October 28, 2010, 12:31:59 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on October 28, 2010, 12:49:30 PM
Don't you use a fixed reticle with many lines on it jj? I thought a while back you said you didn't use a turret.
I use a turret if I have time; however, a true 1 MOA elevation reticle allows very quick and accurate shot placement at extended ranges.
Now I'm confused. Along with the reticle you use, it also has a turret for adjusting that reticle?
Post by: MichaelJ on October 28, 2010, 02:58:24 PM
Now I'm confused. Along with the reticle you use, it also has a turret for adjusting that reticle?
You are correct. Check out this scope I have on order, its a Vortex Viper PST with thier Mil based reticle, aswell as .1mil click turrets. As JJ said if you have time you dial in your elevation on your turret, or you can just use the reticle hash marks for a holdover (same thing as with the Nightforce scopes). If there is a wind blowing you most likely would dial the elevation in your turret, then use the left or right side of the reticle for your wind correction as using the reticle for holding elevation as well as wind would be extremely difficult as you would have to 'guess' where the appropriate windage and elevation reticle lines cross in your scope picture. Hope that makes sense...???
http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-viper-pst-6-24x50-ffp-riflescope-with-ebr-1-mrad-reticle (http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-viper-pst-6-24x50-ffp-riflescope-with-ebr-1-mrad-reticle)
If you really want to learn about tactical scopes and what not, see here:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=378812#Post378812 (http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=378812#Post378812)
Mike
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 28, 2010, 03:03:40 PM
week sightin' them in. :twocents:
Post by: rbros on October 29, 2010, 07:39:44 AM
At a bare minimum, in a long range scope, a guy needs elevation and windage turrets, and a reticle with windage marks of some sort.
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