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Title: Weatherby Vanguard Sub MOA, B&C stocks... Not free floated????
Post by: MDGrand on October 20, 2010, 09:26:12 AM
Hey, I am hoping some folks here have some insight on this one..

So, I just got a Watherby Vanguard 300 WSM, Sub MOA and the B&C stock that comes with the rifle has forend pressure at the tip, making the barrel NOT free floating.

I am surprised by this... anyone have any insight?
Title: Re: Weatherby Vanguard Sub MOA, B&C stocks... Not free floated????
Post by: UBA on October 20, 2010, 09:33:04 AM
I have a vanguard in 270 wsm and it has the same thing. I wasn't total sure about it but after trying some hand loads i left it alone. It seems to work great for me. Got clover leaf groups so far.
Title: Re: Weatherby Vanguard Sub MOA, B&C stocks... Not free floated????
Post by: Lowedog on October 20, 2010, 09:39:54 AM
Seems like I have read that somewhere before that they bed their rifles with some pressure at the for end.  
Title: Re: Weatherby Vanguard Sub MOA, B&C stocks... Not free floated????
Post by: MDGrand on October 20, 2010, 09:40:30 AM
I figured as much since they marked it Sub MOA that they wouldnt do anything to mess that up. I have yet to try it out.. tomorrow :) ... Just a bit surprised that 1. Weatherby would do anything by a free floated rifle and 2. B&C would make a stock like that.

All that being said, if you get sub MOA groups, it wont matter as the stock is synthetic and impervious to weather..

Curious as to what others have found though.

Thanks for the feeback UBA!
Title: Re: Weatherby Vanguard Sub MOA, B&C stocks... Not free floated????
Post by: littlemac on October 20, 2010, 09:52:41 AM
This is from a description of the Vanguard. 

"Hand bedded to the barreled action, the stock has a forend pressure point that dampens barrel harmonics to enhance accuracy."

I'm sure you could call Weatherby if you want to ask about it.  I have found them to be very accomodating.
Title: Re: Weatherby Vanguard Sub MOA, B&C stocks... Not free floated????
Post by: MDGrand on October 20, 2010, 10:03:34 AM
This is from a description of the Vanguard. 

"Hand bedded to the barreled action, the stock has a forend pressure point that dampens barrel harmonics to enhance accuracy."

I'm sure you could call Weatherby if you want to ask about it.  I have found them to be very accomodating.

Is this from the Weatherby Web site?
Title: Re: Weatherby Vanguard Sub MOA, B&C stocks... Not free floated????
Post by: littlemac on October 20, 2010, 10:58:55 AM
This is from a description of the Vanguard. 

"Hand bedded to the barreled action, the stock has a forend pressure point that dampens barrel harmonics to enhance accuracy."

I'm sure you could call Weatherby if you want to ask about it.  I have found them to be very accomodating.

Is this from the Weatherby Web site?

MD here's an answer from the Weatherby site in FAQ's about the Vanguard.

"Why are some Weatherby® rifles “free floated” and some are not?

We have found through our testing that barrels having a smaller outside diameter than our #3 contour require upward pressure to help stabilize the barrel for increased accuracy.  Our free floated barrels have enough rigidity in the barrel for them to be free floated."

Link: http://www.weatherby.com/product/rifles/vanguard (http://www.weatherby.com/product/rifles/vanguard)

Title: Re: Weatherby Vanguard Sub MOA, B&C stocks... Not free floated????
Post by: jackelope on October 20, 2010, 11:24:53 AM
I can't get on the Weatherby website here at work but when I had my 257 roy Vanguard I was concerned about the non-free floated barrel and found out through some web surfing that that was normal and how they wanted it so I didn't mess with it...
Title: Re: Weatherby Vanguard Sub MOA, B&C stocks... Not free floated????
Post by: Jekemi on November 04, 2010, 10:58:50 AM
My Vanguard .270 isn't Sub MOA but does not have a free floating barrel either. It shoots great so I'm not going to mess with success. I recently downed a nice 10 point Whitetail at 80 yards. The crosshairs of my scope and the actual entry point were exact. For what I paid for that gun I can't complain. I shoot extremely tight groups at 100 yards.
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