Post by: Jackjr on April 02, 2008, 09:49:06 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 02, 2008, 09:51:53 PM
Q. When and how will I be notified of the drawing results?
A. We anticipate notifications will be mailed out by mid-Apri
Post by: Jackjr on April 02, 2008, 09:55:05 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 02, 2008, 09:56:32 PM
Post by: Gobble on April 03, 2008, 04:00:13 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on April 03, 2008, 04:29:53 PM
Can't wait. I wonder how many people get drawn and don't buy the license? I bet quite a few.
Seems like alot. I think there were 4 draws last year for tags that were not claimed.
Post by: Gobble on April 03, 2008, 04:31:12 PM
Post by: Ray on April 03, 2008, 04:32:32 PM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on April 03, 2008, 04:34:27 PM
I think the draws all should be happening in early march except for spring bear which I believe they should do in january so that people can plan ahead accordingly. :twocents:
Its too hard for them to do there counts.............. :chuckle:
:bs:
Seriously, August 1st for results...................... :crap:
Post by: billythekidrock on April 03, 2008, 04:41:13 PM
I think the draws all should be happening in early march except for spring bear which I believe they should do in january so that people can plan ahead accordingly. :twocents:
I agree. I do not buy F&G saying they need more time when we go in 3 year cycles. Oregon can do it, why can't we?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on April 03, 2008, 05:14:30 PM
Idaho just posted Regs........
Wyoming is almost Done...........
Colorado is almost done.........
Only Washington and California have not started yet.........
Anyone check out the Mammal hunting opportunities in California.........talk about PC :chuckle:
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/regulations/07-08-mammal-regs.pdf
Post by: Wea300mag on April 03, 2008, 07:19:09 PM
I will probably never get drawn for a permit again after that comment.
Post by: rosscrazyelk on April 03, 2008, 07:39:36 PM
Post by: Jackjr on April 04, 2008, 09:17:41 PM
Post by: steeleywhopper on April 04, 2008, 11:24:40 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 04, 2008, 11:27:37 PM
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ATTENTION HUNTERS: The drawing for multi-season hunting permits conducted Friday, April 4, contained errors. Information currently shown in individual on-line customer profiles does not necessarily reflect the outcome of the drawing. Additional information will be available the week of April 7. Final results of the drawing will be posted on this website when they are available. Winners will receive a letter verifying their selection.
Post by: Jackjr on April 07, 2008, 06:35:02 PM
Post by: clhutner on April 07, 2008, 07:20:12 PM
Post by: mkcj on April 07, 2008, 07:33:17 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 07, 2008, 07:39:01 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on April 07, 2008, 07:40:32 PM
Post by: mkcj on April 07, 2008, 07:42:50 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 07, 2008, 08:17:58 PM
Post by: Moosehunt on April 07, 2008, 10:59:30 PM
Post by: Ray on April 07, 2008, 11:04:17 PM
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On Saturday, the Multi-Season Deer Tag was available on my profile for purchase for $164.25. Today, the Tag is no longer available for purchase.I'm going to check now. If it's there I am going to buy it.
Post by: Ray on April 07, 2008, 11:06:22 PM
Post by: Moosehunt on April 07, 2008, 11:18:14 PM
Post by: steeleywhopper on April 08, 2008, 12:00:14 PM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 08, 2008, 12:08:37 PM
Post by: KillBilly on April 08, 2008, 12:20:12 PM
Post by: archery288 on April 08, 2008, 12:42:35 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on April 08, 2008, 04:09:23 PM
Yea this is year 2 with these same kind of problems. Why is it all the other states I put in for never seem to have this problem!! Thats B.S. >:(
Try year 4. I think this is year three with Outdoor Central,
Post by: Ray on April 08, 2008, 04:14:49 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on April 08, 2008, 04:36:23 PM
I posted this last year and will do it again.
Go to Great Lodge http://www.greatlodge.com/cgi-bin/gl/outdoor.cgi
Hover your mouse over the states listed on the left. Look in the bottom left corner of your browser to see where the link will take you.
Most will take you to a Great Lodge page, one takes you to an Outdoor Central site and one, ( :dunno:) will take you to WDFW page.
The Outdoor Central logo at the top of the page is the same logo (Buffalo) that Great Lodge was using in the past.
Looks to me like Great Lodge had problems, tried to clean up and operate under Outdoor Central (and continues to have problems).
Post by: Ray on April 08, 2008, 04:43:30 PM
Post by: big iron on April 08, 2008, 04:57:49 PM
Post by: wilywin on April 20, 2008, 10:19:17 AM
Post by: bobcat on April 20, 2008, 10:28:57 AM
Q. What is the multiple-season hunting permit?
A. The multiple-season hunting permit allows a hunter to hunt with all three weapon types, archery, muzzleloader, and modern-firearm during the general hunting seasons for deer and/or elk.
Q: What are the rules for multiple-season permit holders?
A: Multiple season permit holders must abide by all general season rules for the hunt in progress. The permit holder must also follow all the general season rules for archery during the general archery seasons, muzzleloader during the general muzzleloader seasons, and modern firearm during the modern firearm general seasons.
(For example, if hunting during the archery deer season in GMU 242 Alta, a hunter must use archery equipment; they can harvest a three point minimum mule deer buck from Sept. 1-15 or 3-point minimum buck or antlerless mule deer from Sept. 16-30; and they must follow all archery, general season deer, and all other hunting regulations).
Q. What is the bag limit?
A. The bag limit is one deer or one elk.
Q. Do I need to purchase a hunting license and tags before I can enter the drawing?
A. You do not need to purchase a deer or elk hunting license and tag to enter the multiple-season permit drawing.
Q. Where can I purchase the multiple-season hunting permit applications and when is the deadline?
A. You can purchase special permit applications over the counter at any hunting and fishing license dealer, or by calling toll-free 1-866-246-9453, or by using the internet at https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/ . The deadline to purchase the applications is March 31, 2008.
Q. How much does the application cost?
The cost of the multiple-season hunting permit application is $5.48 for residents, $3.29 for youth, and $54.75 for non-residents.
Q. How much does the permit cost?
A. The permit is $164.25 for residents and $1,642.50 for non-residents, plus the cost of the original deer or elk license.
Q. How many multiple-season permits are going to be drawn?
A. 1,500 deer permits and 500 elk permits will be drawn. Permits will be randomly drawn by computer selection.
Q. When and how will I be notified of the drawing results?
A. We anticipate notifications will be mailed out by mid-April.
Q. How many applications may I purchase?
A. You may purchase one application for deer and one application for elk.
Q. How do I enter the drawing after I purchase the application?
A. Your application is automatically entered into the drawing (there are no hunt choice numbers to submit).
Q. How does the multiple-season permit affect the deer and elk special permits?
A. If you draw a multiple season permit for deer or elk, then you may apply for all weapon types on your deer or elk special permit application (up to four hunt choices). You would also be able to apply for both eastern and western Washington for elk.
Q. Do I earn points for the multiple-season permit application if I do not draw a permit?
A. An applicant will retain a point each time he/she does not draw a permit.
Q. What if I am drawn, but decide not to purchase the permit?
A. Successful applicants must purchase the permit within 15 days of the drawing notification date. If they have not purchased the multiple-season permit by the deadline, the next person drawn will be offered the permit. The multiple-season permit is non-refundable and non-transferable
Post by: wilywin on April 20, 2008, 10:35:08 AM
" The multiple-season hunting permit allows a hunter to hunt with all three weapon types, archery, muzzleloader, and modern-firearm during the general hunting seasons for deer and/or elk. "
Post by: wilywin on April 20, 2008, 10:38:44 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 20, 2008, 10:40:11 AM
Post by: coastalghost on April 20, 2008, 10:41:14 AM
Post by: bobcat on April 20, 2008, 10:44:09 AM
Okay call me dumb here? I dont understand what the advantage is if you get drawn. I am a regular deer hunter modern firearm (rifle) hunter and i was selected for the muliti season thing. I hunt with rifle only???? So this really is no advantage to me???
Seems to me this would be a good time for you to purchase either a bow or a muzzleloader and start practicing before the season starts.
But yes, you are correct in that there is no advantage if you only hunt the rifle season. The multi-season elk permit has another advantage...you can hunt both eastside and westside seasons.
Post by: wilywin on April 20, 2008, 10:56:59 AM
Post by: Alchase on April 20, 2008, 11:47:49 AM
"The permit is $164.25 for residents and $1,642.50 for non-residents, plus the cost of the original deer or elk license."
Post by: billythekidrock on April 20, 2008, 11:55:44 AM
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If it allows you to hunt with all 3 weapon types then why isnt it called Multiple weapons permit?
It is called multi season because you can hunt Modern season, Archery season and ML season.
Why not call it multi weapon? Because you could hunt all those seasons with one weapon if you use the right one.
Post by: boneaddict on April 20, 2008, 12:02:05 PM
Post by: mossback91 on April 20, 2008, 12:15:55 PM
Cause those deer need to be gone!!
Post by: mossback91 on April 20, 2008, 12:18:29 PM
Post by: boneaddict on April 20, 2008, 12:22:36 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 20, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
Wilywin, if you win the tag it will cost you another $164.25.
"The permit is $164.25 for residents and $1,642.50 for non-residents, plus the cost of the original deer or elk license."
I think he knows what it costs. He is just saying he's only out $5 because he doesn't want the multi-season permit now that he knows what it is.
Post by: Ridgerunner on April 20, 2008, 02:34:43 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on April 20, 2008, 02:36:41 PM
Post by: actionshooter on April 20, 2008, 03:43:59 PM
I have the perfect use for the multi- tag. I'll take my 2 kids out modern then I can have archery and muzzle to myself :)
Post by: PolarBear on April 20, 2008, 04:54:52 PM
Post by: SuperDave on April 20, 2008, 08:39:48 PM
Post by: BlackTail on April 21, 2008, 11:37:42 AM
Post by: tmike on April 21, 2008, 11:41:55 AM
Post by: robodad on April 21, 2008, 12:04:17 PM
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I'm tired of folks putting in for tags just to put in for them. I know dudes who put in for sheep, moose and goat who have never seen one or have no idea where or how to hunt for them if they were drawn. One guy told me that when he draws, he will just hire a guide to take him to the animal. It is frustrating for those of us that would give our right bag to draw one of those tags to see yayhoos who really have no business applying for them.
So how many times do I have to hunt an area before I can put in for the special permit hunts ??
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It is frustrating for those of us that would give our right bag to draw one of those tags to see yayhoos who really have no business applying for them
Let me know what permits you put in for so I don't, I don't want to be a yayhoo !!
Post by: boneaddict on April 21, 2008, 12:19:16 PM
Post by: saylean on April 21, 2008, 12:23:04 PM
I have never seen moose in Wa (and only a few of the others), but you can be sure I will be buying an application for one. I have a general idea of where to look.
I didnt know (or I should say, I read it too late) that you had to buy 164 dollar permit to hunt the multiseason...which I drew....and purchased by the way...Bah! I think it is kind of a rip off that you need to perchase it and you dont even get an extra deer, but that is my own personal opinion. I am thankful I drew (multiseason deer) but will only be hunting Archery and Modern Firearm...I dont own a smokepole.
I would love to get a whitey doe tag though! I see them all over when I go for Muleys.
Peace~
Post by: robodad on April 21, 2008, 12:54:52 PM
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Are you trying to make a point?
Well the point I was trying to make is that it seems sort of selfish to ask other hunters not to put in for the hunts you apply for at least that is how I read it and I am a yayhoo if I apply for something that you want.
I have put in for special hunts before that I had no idea about and actually got drawn, some of them I apply for every year now and others I don't for one reason or another.
I still put in for special permits that I have never hunted because I want to hunt different areas of this state and see different landscape and different species and conditions then what I am used to and don't have the resources to go everywhere and scout all year so I hope the draw will determine where I will hunt next so I can concentrate all my efforts on that one hunt.
Post by: boneaddict on April 21, 2008, 02:11:20 PM
Post by: robodad on April 21, 2008, 02:27:42 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on April 21, 2008, 04:20:18 PM
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I am thankful I drew (multiseason deer) but will only be hunting Archery and Modern Firearm...I dont own a smokepole.
Why not hunt the ML unit/season with your bow?
Post by: bowhuntin on April 21, 2008, 04:24:21 PM
QuoteI am thankful I drew (multiseason deer) but will only be hunting Archery and Modern Firearm...I dont own a smokepole.
Why not hunt the ML unit/season with your bow?
I didn't think that was legal is it? I can't find anything in the regulations that says it is okay to use a bow during a muzzleloader season.
Post by: billythekidrock on April 21, 2008, 04:53:44 PM
Post by: saylean on April 21, 2008, 05:15:07 PM
I ride the short bus sometimes....
Post by: bobcat on April 21, 2008, 07:42:00 PM
QuoteAre you trying to make a point?
Well the point I was trying to make is that it seems sort of selfish to ask other hunters not to put in for the hunts you apply for at least that is how I read it and I am a yayhoo if I apply for something that you want.
I understand and agree with what you were saying. This is what Polarbear said:
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I'm tired of folks putting in for tags just to put in for them. I know dudes who put in for sheep, moose and goat who have never seen one or have no idea where or how to hunt for them if they were drawn.
The way he put that does sound selfish to me. I put in for moose and sheep every year and I'm definitely no expert on either one. How could I be when it's a once-in-a-liftime opportunity in this state, and so far in my life I haven't had the money or at least didn't want to spend the money on a guided hunt in some other state or country. Polarbear probably didn't mean it that way but he makes it sound like he feels nobody who isn't already an experienced moose, sheep, or mountain goat hunter has the right to apply for those hunts. It's easy enough to do the research and do the scouting after you draw a permit and I don't have a problem with anybody applying for those permits. Of course I would rather keep the number of applications as low as possible so that my odds will be better, but I don't feel I have any more of a right to draw a permit than anybody else.
I do agree that people should not apply if they aren't sure they will be able to at least spend a reasonable amount of time that it might take to expect to be successful.
Post by: bobcat on April 21, 2008, 07:50:14 PM
QuoteI am thankful I drew (multiseason deer) but will only be hunting Archery and Modern Firearm...I dont own a smokepole.
Why not hunt the ML unit/season with your bow?
If you have the multi season permit you can hunt all three (modern, archery, ml) with a bow. You can always use a "lesser" weapon then your tag states. You can use a bow, ML or shotgun during a rifle season if you want.
Why does it not say that in the 2007 hunting regulations? It does make sense that you would be allowed to use a "lesser" weapon, but I just don't see where the law allows it. It does say under modern firearm seasons that you "may use modern firearm, archery, or muzzleloader," but if you look under archery seasons it says "archery only" and under muzzleloader seasons it says "muzzleloader only."
Post by: boneaddict on April 21, 2008, 07:52:46 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on April 21, 2008, 08:18:38 PM
Post by: bowsandhose on April 21, 2008, 08:25:22 PM
Post by: PolarBear on April 21, 2008, 08:26:53 PM
Post by: boneaddict on April 21, 2008, 08:51:01 PM
Post by: PolarBear on April 21, 2008, 08:52:54 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 21, 2008, 09:28:46 PM
I think what PB is frustrated at as well as myself are so many guys putting in who really don't care to hunt any of those species
Well if that's the case I can understand the frustration, but I just assumed that anybody who took the time and spent the money, even if it's only $5, to apply, actually DID want to hunt that species. Do you guys really think there are that many people applying for permits that they don't want?
Post by: robodad on April 21, 2008, 09:50:33 PM
I have also ran into a few hunters that have said they put some of the hunts down on their application just to fill up the spaces, I told them I thought that was BS and why, I don't know if they continue to do it but I am quite sure there are more folks out there that do it.
I only put in for tags I have a genuine interest in using weather or not I have hunted there or not, If I get the tag I will use it and work real hard so it is not wasted. I really like to explore new areas so I put in for them hoping I get the opportunity to expand my horizons so to speak !! If not I will go somewhere I have hunted before.
The way it sounded is that PB thought I was a yayhoo for doing that and that is not right either, sorry if I got confused or read your post wrong !!
Post by: bobcat on April 21, 2008, 10:18:42 PM
Post by: saylean on April 21, 2008, 10:23:51 PM
but i still prefer the short bus...
we always had cookies...
Post by: billythekidrock on April 22, 2008, 05:57:20 AM
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It does make sense that you would be allowed to use a "lesser" weapon, but I just don't see where the law allows it. It does say under modern firearm seasons that you "may use modern firearm, archery, or muzzleloader," but if you look under archery seasons it says "archery only" and under muzzleloader seasons it says "muzzleloader only."
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I honestly didn't think you could hunt with your bow during the muzzelloader hunt. I know you can in Modern, but not in anotehr primitive weapon season. I don't think you can flip flop those.
Wow!.. I learn'ed somethin new.
I always thought you could trade down. I guess they consider archery and ML the same?
Post by: billythekidrock on April 22, 2008, 06:04:11 AM
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have also ran into a few hunters that have said they put some of the hunts down on their application just to fill up the spaces, I told them I thought that was BS and why, I don't know if they continue to do it but I am quite sure there are more folks out there that do it.
That is what frustrates me. I put in for one elk permit and usually only two deer and two or three on the OIL, but what pss's me off is when someone gets drawn on their fourth choice for the only unit I applied for, then they don't even know where to start scouting or how to hunt the unit.
Post by: boneaddict on April 22, 2008, 06:23:42 AM
Post by: bowsandhose on April 22, 2008, 08:15:23 AM
Post by: billythekidrock on April 22, 2008, 04:26:13 PM
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Once again, easily solved if they moved it to two choices or....one choice and then the second only counts if the that unit isn't filled up.
+1
and how about this. You draw then you can not draw the next year, but you can purchase a ghost point. You keep gaining points and F&G keeps getting the permit ap money.
Post by: actionshooter on April 22, 2008, 06:18:15 PM
QuoteOnce again, easily solved if they moved it to two choices or....one choice and then the second only counts if the that unit isn't filled up.
+1
and how about this. You draw then you can not draw the next year, but you can purchase a ghost point. You keep gaining points and F&G
keeps getting the permit ap money.
I like that, it would seem to help the odds a little. I don't know how much it would help the really tough to get tags like margret, quinault and entiat.
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on April 22, 2008, 06:51:31 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on April 22, 2008, 07:57:20 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on April 22, 2008, 08:12:17 PM
QuoteOnce again, easily solved if they moved it to two choices or....one choice and then the second only counts if the that unit isn't filled up.
+1
and how about this. You draw then you can not draw the next year, but you can purchase a ghost point. You keep gaining points and F&G
keeps getting the permit ap money.
I like that, it would seem to help the odds a little. I don't know how much it would help the really tough to get tags like margret, quinault and entiat.
Most people that draw those tags have 20+ points anyways so I don't know what it will take to help those odds. :dunno:
Post by: Palmer on June 20, 2008, 10:57:47 PM
Post by: Jamieb on June 21, 2008, 06:59:02 PM