Post by: Mandownitis on November 09, 2010, 07:00:05 PM
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Post by: PolarBear on November 09, 2010, 07:04:35 PM
Post by: gasman on November 09, 2010, 07:07:12 PM
This guy is just pissed that his pet is gone :'(
Post by: TheHunt on November 09, 2010, 07:16:51 PM
Post by: woodrat on November 09, 2010, 08:45:00 PM
But that was NOT a legal hunt, obviously, or he wouldn't have been cited for municipal firearms violations. Not tagging and keeping the animal would be wasting it, but I'm still confused as to why should he be allowed to keep an animal he shot on someone else's private property without permission, in violation of local laws. As far as I'm concerned, anyone shooting in a residential neighborhood, while trespassing, in city limits, in violation of city law, should have the book thrown at him. Anyone who is shooting an elk, while trespassing, unaware that there are houses in the line of fire, is a first class jerk, and this is exactly the kind of event that turns public opinion against hunting.
Look at page 86 of your WDFW regs and read "hunter's code of conduct".
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on November 09, 2010, 09:07:08 PM
If it was legal, then who cares.
This guy is just pissed that his pet is gone :'(
I'd be pissed to if they trespassed on to my land witout permision to shoot my pet elk!
I know exactly where that elk was shot.
Post by: krout81 on November 09, 2010, 09:09:08 PM
Post by: thurman on November 10, 2010, 01:46:45 AM
Post by: rasbo on November 10, 2010, 04:14:00 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 10, 2010, 04:23:29 AM
Boy oh Boy, I wonder what the fine is for shooting in the city limits? He should have know better then to shoot a high powered rifle where people live, and he probably knew he was tresspassing.
As pointed out by some, it was a muzzleloader.
If this was in Pierce County then it would be one or more misdemeanor(s). Note that muzzleloaders are firearms within the Pierce County Code.
From the Pierce County Code:
9.32.070 Discharge of Firearms Prohibited or Restricted. Pursuant to RCW 9.41.300(2), the Pierce County Council may designate certain areas of Pierce County where the discharge of firearms shall be prohibited or restricted. Citizens may petition the County Council for the formation, dissolution or amendment of an area where the discharge of firearms shall be prohibited or restricted or the Council may initiate the creation, dissolution or amendment of such an area by passing a resolution declaring its intent to do so. Under no circumstances shall the County Council designate a prohibited or restricted area until the Firearms Advisory Commission, created pursuant to Chapter 2.79 of the Pierce County Code, has had an opportunity to review the proposal and make its recommendation to the Council. No single proposal for an area where the discharge of firearms shall be prohibited or restricted may exceed 160 acres. (Ord. 2004-72s § 1 (part), 2004; Ord. 90-45 § 1 (part), 1990; Ord. 84-172 (part), 1984; prior Code § 35.28.010)
9.32.080 Discharge Near Buildings. In all areas of Pierce County where the discharge of firearms is not prohibited or restricted pursuant to 9.32.070, it shall be unlawful to discharge a firearm within 500 feet toward any building occupied by people or domestic animals or used for storage of flammable or combustible materials. It shall be unlawful to discharge a firearm within 1,000 feet toward any K-12 school within the County. (Ord. 2004-72s § 1 (part), 2004; Ord. 90-45 § 1 (part), 1990; prior Code § 35.28.020)
9.32.090 Violations of Sections 9.32.070 and 9.32.080. Any person who violates any of the provisions of Sections 9.32.070 or 9.32.080 shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. (Prior Code § 35.28.030)
Post by: gasman on November 10, 2010, 05:06:45 AM
I seen no info to state that he was trespassing. Where are you getting this info from :dunno:
What is he had permisson to hunt a farmers field, then what.
Post by: MIKEXRAY on November 10, 2010, 05:52:43 AM
Post by: huntlakewood on November 10, 2010, 09:39:24 AM
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I think the meat should have been given to the land owner at the expense of using that guys tag and the trespasser should get the book.
Post by: stormin85 on November 10, 2010, 10:28:08 AM
Is it really his pet no, but it ends up being like one, do i still want to shoot it? sure. taking a bull that easy would be nice. but thats not really hunting and that is what was frustrating, its his property the hunter should have been at least smart enough to ask someone if it was private land, i find it hard to believe that the guy was truly unaware that he was not on public land, he lives in Bonney Lake, its not like he is out of state, i know where there are elk in Enumclaw, they cross private and public land if i ever had the inclination to hunt them, i would get permission from as many property owners around there as possible to make sure i wasn't going to end up in the same boat, but then hunting these elk is very similar to hunting cattle, their still skiddish but they are used to people, bowhunting them might still be a challenge, any type of gun is not. :twocents:
Post by: gasman on November 10, 2010, 10:29:01 AM
He should have the book thrown at him for breaking the law :bdid:
Post by: bushmaster on November 10, 2010, 10:34:53 AM
Post by: chad s. on November 10, 2010, 10:50:02 AM
Post by: rasbo on November 10, 2010, 11:21:18 AM
If it's private property then post it! I read you don't have to in Buckley; however, if you really care about your pet elk why don't you show it???Im sure its a state law not having to post your property,I could be wrong..But it wasnt his property so hes still in the wrong..I guess we should post our cars and everything else so some lame ass knows its not his..Hunters and citizens need to know themselves where the lines are..
Post by: huntlakewood on November 10, 2010, 11:32:20 AM
When my kid went through hunters ed they had to go through the walking course and there was a gate set up with no signs. She was marked down on that part of it cause she still did not ask permission. They had told her and every one else in the class even know it is not posted it is still private property and it is conted as tresspassing. ( only two people did not get marked down on that one)If it's private property then post it! I read you don't have to in Buckley; however, if you really care about your pet elk why don't you show it???Im sure its a state law not having to post your property,I could be wrong..But it wasnt his property so hes still in the wrong..I guess we should post our cars and everything else so some lame ass knows its not his..Hunters and citizens need to know themselves where the lines are..
Post by: wayner on November 10, 2010, 11:34:57 AM
:yeah: :tup:If it's private property then post it! I read you don't have to in Buckley; however, if you really care about your pet elk why don't you show it???Im sure its a state law not having to post your property,I could be wrong..But it wasnt his property so hes still in the wrong..I guess we should post our cars and everything else so some lame ass knows its not his..Hunters and citizens need to know themselves where the lines are..
Post by: bigtex on November 10, 2010, 12:55:17 PM
This story was posted a couple weeks ago and discussed in length...
Post by: woodrat on November 10, 2010, 06:26:57 PM
You're supposed to know where you're hunting, and if you hunt private property, you need to have permission. Seems obvious to me, but I'm a property owner who gets trespassed on almost every year, in addition to having the signs that I do put up torn down and vandalized.
I have no sympathy whatsoever for the kind of person who would trespass onto someone's private, residential land and shoot an elk there.