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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: Buckrub on November 10, 2010, 12:11:12 PM

Title: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: Buckrub on November 10, 2010, 12:11:12 PM: While hunting in the cowiche a couple of weeks ago with my handicapped father...he is a ripe 72 yo.
We were driving up a heavily traveled road and came across a hunter on foot, I waved and slowly drove past the hunter.
While driving by the hunter decided to make some degrading remarks about road hunters and hunters in general.

Now... I don't "road" hunt but just a drive with my dad for the day sounded good...he is a lifetime hunter and wants to get out.

Why must some hunters degrade others while hunting? Why so rude? Can't hunters just be civil to each other?

As I thought about the ramarks I was pissed and looked for the guys camp hours later and glad I didn't find him.
What does one say to a hunter walking a road complaining of people driving??

Have we come to this? Is this hunting?
Maybe the reason the hunting is getting so bad is the hunters attitude towards others... time to put petty stuff behind and get along or hunting will be a thing of the past.... Shouldn't hunters have an unwritten code?

Just a rant...
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: jackelope on November 10, 2010, 12:16:10 PM: Fellow hunters still need to drive places, right?
Broad assumptions made by others suck!!
Sorry that happened.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: Ray on November 10, 2010, 12:26:54 PM: I don't really see a reason to ridicule someone else traveling the road I am on and who might be a hunter. After all, I am on that road too. Secondly, I have a hard time believing most people would not tag a fine looking animal near the road. I believe there are people that would pass, but I expect there are few that would pass on a good trophy next to the road for example. If someone else on the road is complaining about road hunters to me I guess I'll figure out the appropriate response at that time. It's obvious people who walk on the road and hunt are road hunters as well. If in fact they felt it was an abomination to encounter traffic on the road then perhaps they should step off the road and go for a walk. :dunno: Seems simple to me.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: CHUCK S on November 10, 2010, 12:29:02 PM: Probably just jealous of the warm cab and better view. Hunters are like military personnel, always bitching but would you rather be around them or people you work with? I wouldn't worry about it, I'm sure nothing around the camp fire included "complaining" huh? Good luck to you and I'm jealous, I wish I could talk my 62 yr old dad into coming out with me and my boys.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: elkslare on November 10, 2010, 12:48:11 PM: yea really who is to say your not just driving into an area to hunt for the week?? Myself I like to see lots of road hunters. Just because it is that much more area I can hunt off the roads with out seeing other people.
The guy was probably pissed because he felt he was road hunting first, and now there's someone else on the road. :chuckle: :chuckle: Really what was he doing hiking on the road?? :chuckle:
I agree. It would be alot nicer if everyone was courteous to everyone.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: Ice Cap on November 10, 2010, 01:41:31 PM: Who cares what someone says as you drive by.
Don't let that crap bother you.

I personally don't give a rats butt what most people have to say.
If you are not a friend, family member or someone that I have respect for then anything you say is just wasting your breath.

Try it sometime as it makes life much more pleasant! :)
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: Glockster on November 10, 2010, 02:51:03 PM: I really don't care how other hunters enjoy their day in the woods whether it's from a warm truck cab or hiking miles in the rain. As long as they don't break a law who am I to judge? Besides the more guys sticking to the roads the fewer are in the woods with me and the deer. :chuckle:

The only time I hate on road hunters is when they insist on creeping along in front of me when I'm trying to get somewhere to walk. Most experienced road hunters pull off to the side at the nearest opportunity.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: sisu on November 10, 2010, 03:03:46 PM: Last visit in Montana we saw what looked like three hunters pulling a game cart with what we thought was a downed animal, instead it was three guys pulling a 4th in a cart. I was impressed that these 3 partners were helping their "handicapped" buddy so he or she could get out and hunt also. you know I had a student tell me once that everyone you meet on the street has problems much worse than yours and you should take that into consideration before criticizing them. I need to remind myself of that more often.
Good post.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: Ray on November 10, 2010, 03:05:25 PM: Quote
everyone you meet on the street has problems much worse than yours

Holy cow that explains everything! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: sisu on November 10, 2010, 03:07:31 PM: Quote from: Ray on November 10, 2010, 03:05:25 PM
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everyone you meet on the street has problems much worse than yours

Holy cow that explains everything! :chuckle:
:sas:
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 10, 2010, 03:22:21 PM: that's pretty sad. assumptions can really suck sometimes. we have dealt with the same thing from time to time. a guys was hunting in a area that i had a disabled hunter in. we went in at first light as to not disturb anyone getting into the area to hunt by foot. there was 1 other deer hunter and 2 elk hunters in the same area "disabled". we got into the gate and started up the road. this guy comes running down off the hill yelling at us. i stopped the truck and got out and asked what is problem was. he said you cant drive in here. i said you see that sign down there. this is a area that disabled hunters can hunt in, and use the rigs to get around. he takes off his hat and throws it on the ground and says that's a bunch of f%$%$@^ S$%%. i said my friend here is a disabled hunter. the guy has the nerve to look at him sitting in the front seat and say "whats wrong with him, he looks like he can walk." he about got the life beat out of him 4 that. but i was calm and explained what was going on and tried to be nice. went our separate ways and he headed back down to the gate to leave the area. well we got back to the gate later that day and the f$%^ H#$^ shoved a stick in the lock and broke of a piece in the lock that i could not get out for the life of me. after about 2hrs of trying to get it out. one of the guys shows up that patrols the area. he asked what the problem was. i told him and he said hold on a min. goes back to the truck gets the bolt cutters and cuts the lock off and puts a new one back on. very nice guy and glad he came along. there was no way out but threw that gate. just thought i would share this story since its along the same lines.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: Tony 270 on November 10, 2010, 03:29:03 PM: Maybe he's just tired of seeing people driving along the roads all day long and didn't know you were driving your dad. I know I don't like all the road hunters, but thats why I try and stay behind locked gates. But if it is for someone who can't physically get out and hike around, never had any issue with it.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: h20hunter on November 10, 2010, 03:36:36 PM: be a real bitch if he was to twist his ankle and needed a ride on the way out.......
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: 270Shooter on November 10, 2010, 03:43:58 PM: I hate to admit it, but road hunting can be productive ;). If Im in an area that I am not very familiar with I will drive the roads to see more of the area, once I find a good looking spot I'll hike up in there.

Don't worry about that guy, hes prolly just pissed that couldnt find where he parked his truck :yike:
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: Blacklab on November 10, 2010, 03:45:23 PM: I don't know maybe he wanted a ride and you an dad just waved :chuckle: ;).
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: MLBowhunting on November 11, 2010, 06:51:55 AM: i could care less if road hunting pisses people off just go in deeper. I take my grandfather out and hes 80. Ive never seen anyone get crazy out in my area yet but it will come someday.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 11, 2010, 06:59:31 AM: I've killed more drivin' around than walking. I shot 5 bobcats doing that, how many others have done that ? Each to his own, so stuff the comments I say. Pound sand, you get the drift.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on November 12, 2010, 02:10:03 PM: I think it is pretty piss poor attitude to have. I notice this elitist attitude from a lot from people who don't bait, don't road hunt, don't gun hunt, don't hunt with a compound bow, don't (choose what you like). The fact is we are all out there to enjoy ourselves and put some meat on the table. You can have your opinions but when you come to the point of degrading others then you are dividing hunters and not helping our cause. I would take those elitist with a grain of salt. I have yet to find one of them who is a better hunter than the individuals they are trying to degrade.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: methowman on November 12, 2010, 02:28:53 PM: I pounded the mountainsides throughout my life as a hunter & have seen roadhunters every year. In my youth I understood that everyone had there own way of hunting. I was just glad I had the stamina to keep on waking. As I age any day can bring on a sore knee or back, or I might be limited by a disease. I'm just grateful to be able to get out in the woods & be a part of it all. If I'm feeling OK I walk, if I walked the day before maybe I ride, but either way its no body's business but mine.The fact that some *censored* has to make a comment about road hunting to a fellow hunter just pisses me off. Pure lack of respect. I would guess that one day that individual will make a comment to the wrong person & learn a lesson, those type's usually do.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on November 12, 2010, 02:36:43 PM: I love that people can road hunt. It put's less pressure on the woods which is where I like to be and it allows people to hunt who physically aren't able to get into the woods.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: skier2480 on November 12, 2010, 03:02:37 PM: :yeah:
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: Buckrub on November 12, 2010, 05:11:01 PM: Call me old fashioned....
As a kid I chuckled at the old timers driving around drinking coffee and shooting the breeze about the bucks from years ago.
I never had a negative thought about road hunters, I enjoyed the comradely of all hunters.

I've been hunting for forty years and the campfire seems warmer every year... I enjoy camp and the chase more than the kill anymore, passing on hunting stories of the old days to my kids.

Hunting has become to competitive whereas in the past it was for enjoyment, I blame the states lack of management skills for the most part and not the hunter. Hunters are squeezed into smaller areas with less animals to hunt than years past. Timber companies locking up land because of the failures of the state to negotiate and hunters to lack of self policing.

Hunting could be what it was if hunters got past self interest ways and combined as a voice of reason.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: Deep Forks on November 13, 2010, 12:23:44 AM: Quote from: Buckrub on November 12, 2010, 05:11:01 PM
Call me old fashioned....
As a kid I chuckled at the old timers driving around drinking coffee and shooting the breeze about the bucks from years ago.
I never had a negative thought about road hunters, I enjoyed the comradely of all hunters.

I've been hunting for forty years and the campfire seems warmer every year... I enjoy camp and the chase more than the kill anymore, passing on hunting stories of the old days to my kids.

Hunting has become to competitive whereas in the past it was for enjoyment, I blame the states lack of management skills for the most part and not the hunter. Hunters are squeezed into smaller areas with less animals to hunt than years past. Timber companies locking up land because of the failures of the state to negotiate and hunters to lack of self policing.

Hunting could be what it was if hunters got past self interest ways and combined as a voice of reason.

:yeah: Very good post, I couldn't agree more. My family always strives to enjoy ourselves in the outdoors and respect the others whom are out there enjoying it with us. :twocents:
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: colockumelk on November 13, 2010, 06:22:37 AM: I agree Buckrub. This state has done a diservice to its hunters. We do need to unite however we might be too far gone for that. Here's a history lesson that I think directly relates to us.

When England, France and eventually the United States starting expanding westward what did they need to do in order to settle the land. They had to make it safe and remove any hostile tribes from the area. So how did they do this? They didnt' just send in the US Cavalry in right off the bat. This would have been suicide. Most soldiers were from the city or from some sort of town. They knew NOTHING about surviving off the land. In fact many deep patrols sent by the cavalry deep into hostile territory ended in a resounding defeat of US forces. So they had to first weeken the enemy. So the US took already existing tribal disputes and enemies and pitted each other against them. Basically they took tribes that had already been at war with each other for one reason or another and used them to make war on each other and used them as scouts to lead them to the other tribes base camps. The US was even able to split individual tribes by bribing them with guns and other household goods. This is how we defeated the Apache. So by turning the tribes against each other we were able to defeat each tribe and expand west.

Sound sort of familiar with what has happened in the last 20 years in regards to hunting and user groups in the state of WA. Kind of makes you wonder why Wolves are now being introduced? Maybe some of the old timers can chime in. But 20 years ago was there an animosity between rifle, ML and archery hunters?
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: Buckrub on November 13, 2010, 07:25:13 AM: @clockum

I think it was more than twenty but if a hunter bought a tag they could hunt any weapon until filling the tag.
I hunted with a recurve until rifle season.

There were always a few elitist in any weapon of choice but for the most part there was very little animosity.

Hunting has become a money game and the state is at blame.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: unluckyjohn on November 13, 2010, 10:00:49 AM: "As I thought about the ramarks I was pissed and looked for the guys camp hours later"

WOW! storm into a pissed off mans camp to prove what?
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on November 13, 2010, 12:26:26 PM: I am one of those guys you encounter behind locked gates, and when I see a truck I do ask what they are doing back there. If you had your orange placard displayed this guy had his answer, if you didnt you shouldnt expect a guy to know his attitude shouldnt have been so nasty he should have asked nicely first. Kudos to your dad for still getting out there in any way he can, but for you *censored*s that drive around a gate, or cut locks because your too damn lazy to get out of your truck you are not hunters you are vandals. To those of you who drive around to get your animal its not my cup of tea, but if thats what a hunt is to you more power to you.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on November 13, 2010, 12:45:38 PM: Quote from: Buckrub on November 10, 2010, 12:11:12 PM

We were driving up a heavily traveled road and came across a hunter on foot, I waved and slowly drove past the hunter.

Quote from: SemperFidelis97 on November 13, 2010, 12:26:26 PM
I am one of those guys you encounter behind locked gates, and when I see a truck I do ask what they are doing back there. If you had your orange placard displayed this guy had his answer, if you didnt you shouldnt expect a guy to know his attitude shouldnt have been so nasty he should have asked nicely first. Kudos to your dad for still getting out there in any way he can, but for you *censored*s that drive around a gate, or cut locks because your too damn lazy to get out of your truck you are not hunters you are vandals. To those of you who drive around to get your animal its not my cup of tea, but if thats what a hunt is to you more power to you.

I do not think a heavily traveled road would be behind a closed gate. Kudos to your dad for still getting out there.

Joe
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: Yeti on November 13, 2010, 12:57:38 PM: I for one like road hunters.... more than once I was able to hitch a ride back to the truck. I just think of it as a free taxi service.

:chuckle:
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on November 13, 2010, 01:05:22 PM: You are right Joe he didnt say behind a gate I just assumed dont know why anyone would give a crap on any regular road guy is just a *censored* if he is walking down a non gated road assuming no one will drive on it. Joe you need to get busy on our deer not typing here lol may be bringing you the other deer we shot this year for an english mount today.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: steeleywhopper on November 13, 2010, 02:05:33 PM: What the hell is the difference between walking a road and driving it? It's still road hunting right. That guy was a idiot.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on November 13, 2010, 03:59:24 PM: Quote from: SemperFidelis97 on November 13, 2010, 01:05:22 PM
You are right Joe he didnt say behind a gate I just assumed dont know why anyone would give a crap on any regular road guy is just a *censored* if he is walking down a non gated road assuming no one will drive on it. Joe you need to get busy on our deer not typing here lol may be bringing you the other deer we shot this year for an english mount today.

Lol, looking forward to it. It is Saturday no babysitter, so I get to hang out and watch toy story 3 and train your dragon all day.
Title: Re: Hunter etiquette or lack there of
Post by: kenjo on November 14, 2010, 10:49:36 AM: Hi, I'm kenjo and I have, on occasion, road hunted.

"Hi, kenjo!"

As far as the hunter with the bad attitude goes, forget it. By his rude remarks, he qualified himself as a person not worthy of your attention or concern. Don't let his problem be yours. A wise philosopher, or somebody else, once said: "Never wrestle with a pig. You will only get covered in slop, and besides, the pig likes it."

:twocents: