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Other Activities => Shed Hunting => Topic started by: MountainWalk on April 07, 2008, 02:44:15 PM

Title: winter kill bull.
Post by: MountainWalk on April 07, 2008, 02:44:15 PM: this is a winter kill bull i found during the archery season in o6..it had both whistlers. pretty proud of it.. as i have the worst luck finding sheds and such.
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Post by: funkster on April 07, 2008, 05:09:15 PM: I do not know the rules in MT but I am pretty sure in Washington you cannot take any antlers attached to a scull. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. Still a cool find and I would be tempted to take it home!
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Post by: cackle on April 07, 2008, 05:22:17 PM: ya i would like to know the rules on that to gunna head up and try to find the buck my buddy lost last year once the snow clears
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Post by: boneaddict on April 07, 2008, 05:56:24 PM: I bleieve it is still legal in Montana, except for sheep, but Washington its as illegal as HELL.
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Post by: jdb on April 07, 2008, 09:03:13 PM: I know a fella that found a pretty nice winter killed bull this past weekend!
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Post by: MountainWalk on April 07, 2008, 09:08:33 PM: yeah it is legal in mt,, but your right, bone, about the sheep. not even alowwed to touch them. i had no idea that you couldnt keep winter kills in wa....bs if you ask me.
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Post by: nwhunter on April 07, 2008, 09:54:18 PM: Defenitely illegal in Wash. and don't feel bad most guys don't know about it either. My brother found a bull last fall and we had to turn it in to fish and game after someone saw the pics of it with my bull on the net, you can read my story on the fiasco on the elk forum a few months ago. I understand why they have the law for the scumbag poachers who kill animals and leave them till spring but there should be a way for a legit winterkill to be kept like in N Mexico. nwhunter
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Post by: boneaddict on April 07, 2008, 10:04:52 PM: I agree, NM has it down. Course their game department is a bit better organized than ours.
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Post by: cackle on April 07, 2008, 10:24:39 PM: so if we do find we are we have to leave it lay that sux anybody know the fine
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Post by: bucklucky on April 07, 2008, 10:37:12 PM: I was told the fine was the same as if you poached an elk.
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Post by: bobcat on April 07, 2008, 10:40:38 PM: Quote from: bucklucky on April 07, 2008, 10:37:12 PM
I was told the fine was the same as if you poached an elk.

Makes sense.
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Post by: mossback91 on April 07, 2008, 10:41:42 PM: Quote from: schwoogie on April 07, 2008, 10:24:39 PM
so if we do find we are we have to leave it lay that sux anybody know the fine
You can try and be sneaky with it :chuckle: or saw/break the antlers off as if they were sheds
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Post by: LongTatLaw on April 07, 2008, 11:19:51 PM: the game warden I spoke with my elk as_holes acted like WA skull= poaching if no tag attached. :dunno:

but never seen the regs
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Post by: Red Dawg on April 08, 2008, 05:56:20 AM: who cares F*&^% the police. nice find. Same type of thing why they enforce picking up roadkill. I have heard that people have shot bulls and left them in a tree and picked them up in the spring. When said person did not have a tag.
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Post by: boneaddict on April 08, 2008, 06:15:51 AM: Quote
or saw/break the antlers off as if they were sheds

I know a local hero that does that sort of thing...wonder if thats why the gamies are after him? Then make a hat about it...now thats class. Sorry I degress for a moment.
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Post by: gramps on April 08, 2008, 08:41:36 AM: There was a man at the Big Horn Show in Spokane that didn't know either. He entered a deer skull with antlers to be scored. He said it was a cougar kill he found and it did have holes in the snout area that looked like teeth.
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Post by: bankwalker on April 08, 2008, 03:41:32 PM: Quote from: funkster on April 07, 2008, 05:09:15 PM
I do not know the rules in MT but I am pretty sure in Washington you cannot take any antlers attached to a scull. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. Still a cool find and I would be tempted to take it home!

true...you can not take any bones. or antlers attached to a skull.
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Post by: MountainWalk on April 08, 2008, 03:50:08 PM: dont know why we gotta bringout the rule books on every post.. it was found in the maynard drainage of mt.. its legal. like i said,, i have the worst luck with finding sheds, so im pretty dang happy.
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Post by: Ray on April 08, 2008, 03:58:42 PM: Quote
dont know why we gotta bringout the rule books on every post..
Some people just read a portion of the topic and just make responses or feel the need. I have been guilty from time to time but I try not to. I know what you mean though. It's not like you didn't read it the first 2 times. :dunno:
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Post by: Red Dawg on April 08, 2008, 06:57:56 PM: i have seen a lot of wanna be fish hawks. :police: :pee:
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Post by: MountainWalk on April 09, 2008, 08:53:42 AM: whats a fish hawk? besides the obvious?
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Post by: boneaddict on April 09, 2008, 09:39:15 AM: Some of it is comraderie and they don't want a fellow member to incriminate himself on here. The game boys are watching. For instance...when Polarbear pulled his April Fools joke, I got about 20 pms or emails alerting me to it as they were afraid he was going to get busted. Serious concern. I was pretty darn sure he was April Fooling, so let them know that. Then alot of them went :DOH: He got me. It was of serious concern for him. Point is, its easy to break a game law, and we sort of like to educate, or don't want folks to get into trouble. Then there are those are are just pains in the butts. Rightfully so, its hard to walk away from a nice elk skull out there later to have some guy who doesn't know the rule book, walk home with it and be proud as hell, escaping all justice. I have to admit, I find that a bit frustrating.
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Post by: MountainWalk on April 09, 2008, 09:42:18 AM: as long as montana has no qualms, i do not either. :)
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Post by: MountainWalk on April 09, 2008, 09:42:56 AM: i still think its a pretty handsome find.
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Post by: boneaddict on April 09, 2008, 09:45:56 AM: ABSOLUTELY DUDE! I'd be happy as hell. I use to bring every skull I found home. Now I just take pics. :(
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Post by: PacificNWhunter on April 09, 2008, 03:20:02 PM: Nice find!
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Post by: Red Dawg on April 09, 2008, 06:11:33 PM: Fish Hawk= game warden. Sometimes i guess i get fed up with the fact that everyone is so quick to throw someone under the bus to benefit themselves. I here it all the time that someone is so proud to win 10 points but not proud of the fact that they helped stop someone who is killing game unlawfully or as i like to say killing it with out need. I am starting to get off topic but that is how i feel. My hunting partner is a walking game book also and sometimes it gets on my nerves. I know lots of people who go out of there way to break the rules but it is not my place to police them. Anyway that is a great find legal or not.
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Post by: Jerome on April 09, 2008, 06:16:43 PM: Its a damn nice find. Too bad the pic has to be put on defense and picked apart before it gets appreciated.
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Post by: mossback91 on April 09, 2008, 07:19:54 PM: So did u hang it up in your house or what?
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Post by: boneaddict on April 09, 2008, 07:23:27 PM: Good question.....mount it....garage it.....put it on the fence......lets hear it.
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Post by: Red Dawg on April 09, 2008, 07:29:12 PM: I saw one in goldendale that a guy was letting his dog use it for a chew toy. I bet it was a 350 bull. please tell me you did not do this.
Title: Re: winter kill bull.
Post by: funkster on April 11, 2008, 08:41:04 AM: Quote from: MountainWalk338 on April 07, 2008, 09:08:33 PM
yeah it is legal in mt,, but your right, bone, about the sheep. not even alowwed to touch them. i had no idea that you couldnt keep winter kills in wa....bs if you ask me.

I feel this is why people bring out the rule book on this forum,to educate a fellow hunter that might not know the rules so he or she does not get busted out in the field! We all have been educated from this site and from post like this.
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Post by: MountainWalk on April 11, 2008, 08:43:02 AM: yeah, but the first few responses is good enough for me. dont need everyone telling me. i do read most things chronologicly
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Post by: mossback91 on April 11, 2008, 09:56:22 PM: so whatd ya do with it?
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Post by: nwhunter on April 11, 2008, 09:58:18 PM: Good find MountainW. I apologize for bringing up the law and raining on your parade. Its hard to walk away from a set of horns no matter what state they are in if you love horns and I don't care what people do I just want guys to know the rules , especially this one, because a lot of people don't. nwhunter
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Post by: Buckblaster on April 12, 2008, 09:30:19 AM: Just slap an old tag to it and you're good to go.