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Title: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: elkslayer069 on November 17, 2010, 02:51:11 PM: anybody shoot a 338 win at distance 400 yrds+ looking for bullet type and load suggestions thanks
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: high country on November 17, 2010, 02:54:08 PM: what do you want to hunt. what twist is you gun.
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: WDFW-SUX on November 17, 2010, 02:55:48 PM: 225 nosler Accubond has a B.C. .550... load them up to 2850fps...:dunno:

IMR 4831 works good too.
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: Woodchuck on November 17, 2010, 02:56:09 PM: i shoot honandy sst's, 225gr, bc=.430, 68.7 gr of imr 4831. spits em out at 2850. i will run em out to 500 :dunno:
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: high country on November 17, 2010, 03:02:20 PM: the new bergers should be out anyday, the bc should be better then .900......300gr in a 338win is gonna need 8.5 or so to spin them though. the smk's should be pretty close too.
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: elkslayer069 on November 17, 2010, 03:05:37 PM: 1:10'' RH twist im shooting 225gr hornadys with 67.5 grns of H 4831 im good out to 400 but after that it just starts to drop like crazy and i couldve shot 4 bulls at 527 yards last week but didnt want to just sling lead at them
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: Curly on November 17, 2010, 03:06:31 PM: Interesting read on that 300gr Berger. Link (http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/05/berger-bullets-releases-new-338-hybrid-dual-ogive-bullet/)
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Post by: 400out on November 17, 2010, 03:11:11 PM: this might be dumb question... but what is the lightest bullet you guys can get for that cal.?
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: Woodchuck on November 17, 2010, 03:12:58 PM: Dont qoute me, but 180's is as light as i have seen :dunno:
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: 400out on November 17, 2010, 03:15:51 PM: there you go problem solved :chuckle:
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: elkslayer069 on November 17, 2010, 03:17:28 PM: yeah same here 180s anybody have an idea how far necked out those new bergers are gonna have to be, will i still be able to use the magizine i know with my 300 win to get them to shoot i had to neck them out so far that i could only have one in the hole and on just sitting below the bolt not in the magizine?
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: high country on November 17, 2010, 03:18:33 PM: Quote from: Curly on November 17, 2010, 03:06:31 PM
Interesting read on that 300gr Berger. Link (http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/05/berger-bullets-releases-new-338-hybrid-dual-ogive-bullet/)

good read, I would be skeptical that a 1:10 338 win could spin it, the rums and edges coud no doubt, but you would likely have to pull the bolt to load it......they gonna be looooong
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: Woodchuck on November 17, 2010, 03:19:58 PM: That's a good question, my magazine is already very tight, i would highly doubt i could shoot em out of mine especially since i am already shooting a compressed load
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: high country on November 17, 2010, 03:23:41 PM: depends n what powder you use, and what the gun likes. you may find that is does not need a comp load with a different bullet.
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: elkslayer069 on November 17, 2010, 03:27:14 PM: yeah im already tight with no room in the case for anymore powder i guess ill just have to lay down the cash and buy a box of them and check it out and get back with my results
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: elkslayer069 on November 17, 2010, 03:36:41 PM: full lenght resize also anyone one use lubless dies? looking into them i need someone to talk me into them to spending the money :)
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: high country on November 17, 2010, 03:43:35 PM: when you are chucking a .9 BC bullet, 10 grains of powder is not a hill of beans. velocity will always fall off, but bc is forever. shoot what the gun likes, not what you can stuff inside the case. if you get a load to go sub moa with a .9 bc and are any kind of shooter you have it made. think about it.....10 mph crosswinds don't mean enough to worry about at 400 on elk. try that with your 180gr bullet.....YOU JUST MISSED!

trajectory adjustments are easy to compensate for, especially when the BC is huge.......very repeatable
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: bobcat on November 17, 2010, 03:44:34 PM: I never heard of lubeless dies except for straight walled pistol cases. Is this something new?
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: Curly on November 17, 2010, 03:47:01 PM: Quote from: high country on November 17, 2010, 03:18:33 PM
Quote from: Curly on November 17, 2010, 03:06:31 PM
Interesting read on that 300gr Berger. Link (http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/05/berger-bullets-releases-new-338-hybrid-dual-ogive-bullet/)

good read, I would be skeptical that a 1:10 338 win could spin it, the rums and edges coud no doubt, but you would likely have to pull the bolt to load it......they gonna be looooong

Yeah, an Edge with that bullet would be sweet. :drool:
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: elkslayer069 on November 17, 2010, 03:49:39 PM: yeah im not shooting 180grn bullets im shooting a 225grn , im not sure ive had several people tell me that Rcbs made lubless dies and i just looked on their website and i guess that they dont know the head from a hole in the ground.
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: merlo105 on November 17, 2010, 03:57:19 PM: I shoot a 338 win mag out beyond 1,000 yds. I use 250gr. matchkings with imr-4350 68.6 gr. of powder. cci 250 primers. Very accurate load velocity 2774 fps. I have also used speer 225 spbt with reload-19 pushing 3050 fps and higher. Very accurate but had a hard time getting all the bullets to seed the same due to lead tips... Havent tryed any other bullets would like to shoot 225 accubonds due to the high BC. but cant push them at the speeds I desire... So the 250 matchkings give you enough energy at long range to pumble anything in its way... Good luck any ?'s PM me
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: elkslayer069 on November 17, 2010, 04:08:52 PM: alright will do thanks for the info sounds alittle more promising than the bergers
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: Woodchuck on November 17, 2010, 04:11:43 PM: UM....i have a question. what planet is the barrel pointed at when you hold over for a 1000 yd shot with a 250 gr. bullet? :chuckle:
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: demontang on November 17, 2010, 04:26:38 PM: I shot the 225 accubonds out to 600 a lot this year and I'm very sure they will do the job on a elk at that range. Your looking at 60" of drop at 600yds with a muz vel of 2882fps. With 300gr match king running at 2400fps you dropping 77" has 1887 fps and 2371ftlb vs 1990fps and 1976ftlb with the 225gr

I haven't tried pushing the noslers any faster yet because I'm well under .5moa with the load. I'm using imr4350 but there are powders that can push them faster.
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: Hyde on November 17, 2010, 06:46:24 PM: I have killed two bulls at 500 yards or so, with 210 Nosler Partitions (factory ammo), dropped one in his tracks, the other ran about 100 yards and laid down.
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: gadwall on November 17, 2010, 09:30:34 PM: Quote from: Curly on November 17, 2010, 03:06:31 PM
Interesting read on that 300gr Berger. Link (http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/05/berger-bullets-releases-new-338-hybrid-dual-ogive-bullet/)

Just read the link. I have seen Bergers outperform many bullets in the field several times when it comes to long range accuracy. After reading the link, I would not shoot anything else if you are planning shots beyond 600 yards.

Gadwall
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: WDFW-SUX on November 18, 2010, 09:44:17 AM: Quote from: 400out on November 17, 2010, 03:11:11 PM
this might be dumb question... but what is the lightest bullet you guys can get for that cal.?

160
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: high country on November 18, 2010, 09:53:34 AM: Quote from: gadwall on November 17, 2010, 09:30:34 PM
Quote from: Curly on November 17, 2010, 03:06:31 PM
Interesting read on that 300gr Berger. Link (http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/05/berger-bullets-releases-new-338-hybrid-dual-ogive-bullet/)

dont underestimate the smk.

Just read the link. I have seen Bergers outperform many bullets in the field several times when it comes to long range accuracy. After reading the link, I would not shoot anything else if you are planning shots beyond 600 yards.

Gadwall
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: mazama on November 18, 2010, 08:36:57 PM: Barnes 210TTSX R17 powder great load,same bullet in 338rum h4831sc powder,every load in my win mag shoots good,R17 is a high energy powder.
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: Bob33 on November 18, 2010, 08:41:52 PM: Quote from: JIMKD8 on November 17, 2010, 04:11:43 PM
UM....i have a question. what planet is the barrel pointed at when you hold over for a 1000 yd shot with a 250 gr. bullet? :chuckle:
The barrel is bent around and pointing at Uranus.
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: Huntbear on November 18, 2010, 08:48:18 PM: I reload 210 partitions leaving the barrel at 2950 chronographed. At 550 yds they drop 45 in. I am thinking about going to the Accu Bonds for the BC.
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: Curly on November 19, 2010, 07:04:20 AM: Quote from: Bob33 on November 18, 2010, 08:41:52 PM
Quote from: JIMKD8 on November 17, 2010, 04:11:43 PM
UM....i have a question. what planet is the barrel pointed at when you hold over for a 1000 yd shot with a 250 gr. bullet? :chuckle:
The barrel is bent around and pointing at Uranus.

Good one Bob. :chuckle: :)
Title: Re: 338 win. long range anybody
Post by: Woodchuck on November 19, 2010, 07:07:17 AM: :chuckle: :chuckle: