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Title: my first gun
Post by: Rawr0192 on November 26, 2010, 04:32:40 PM
i am going to get my first gun soon for big game hunting. i was thinking a .270 or .308 (Possibly a savage?)
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: chester on November 26, 2010, 04:40:45 PM
270 savage would be a good combo.
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: Rawr0192 on November 26, 2010, 04:43:56 PM
thanks for the advice. the ammo is prbly cheaper for the 270 also. im thinking about this: http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Centerfire-Rifles/Bolt-Action (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Centerfire-Rifles/Bolt-Action)|/pc/104792580/c/105522480/sc/105523380/Savage-Edge-Bolt-Action-Centerfire-Rifles-with-Scope/753240.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-centerfire-rifles-bolt-action%2F_%2FN-1102332%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_105523380
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: dscubame on November 26, 2010, 04:49:03 PM
My first gun was a 30-06 savage.  I would suggest a 30-06 for first rifle.
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: Rawr0192 on November 26, 2010, 05:04:24 PM
i want something with a little 'kick' to it. and by a little i mean alot lol. i would enjoy the larger cal. guns because my body build is fairly large and i am physically prepared for them.
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: chester on November 26, 2010, 05:11:19 PM
You dont need a large caliber. my first rifle was a savage 270. never came across anything i couldnt kill with it. my second was a Ruger M77 in 30-06. just get what you can shoot comfortably. my deer this year was taken with a 270. shot placement is key. either of those calibers can cleanly take anything in this state. and ammo is relatively cheap especially compared to the magnum calibers. you can shoot more for less money and be more comfortable out in the field.
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: MikeWalking on November 26, 2010, 05:11:41 PM
Want a little kick'huh?

Go with a 45-70 and some Buffalo Bore 405gr SP's  ;)
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: dscubame on November 26, 2010, 05:15:40 PM
Want a little kick'huh?

Go with a 45-70 and some Buffalo Bore 405gr SP's  ;)


LOL.
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: rock on November 26, 2010, 05:18:10 PM
lightweight .338 no kick at all :chuckle:  :chuckle:
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: Rawr0192 on November 26, 2010, 05:21:44 PM
lightweight .338 no kick at all :chuckle:  :chuckle:

verrrrryyyyy funny. actually i did laugh at this but yeah totally

Want a little kick'huh?

Go with a 45-70 and some Buffalo Bore 405gr SP's  ;)

yeah, no. i dont think their even are buffalo in Washington lol
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: WAHIKER on November 26, 2010, 05:24:16 PM
Hi Rawr,

If you are only 13 assuming you haven't it would probably be best to go out and shoot a few of these guns with a lot of kick before you purchase one.  Even if you are big for your age you need to make sure you are still comfortable with their weight and recoil.   
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: Rawr0192 on November 26, 2010, 05:26:38 PM
Hi Rawr,

If you are only 13 assuming you haven't it would probably be best to go out and shoot a few of these guns with a lot of kick before you purchase one.  Even if you are big for your age you need to make sure you are still comfortable with their weight and recoil.   

i have shot these guns before and im completely fine with the .270 but i have not shot the .308 so your very wise. i will go and try before i buy thank you for reminding me about that.
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: Crisptrigr on November 26, 2010, 05:50:44 PM
R,
If you can properly handle the recoil of a 270Win. you'll have no problem with a 308 or 30-06 as long as bullets weights are similiar.
When rifle weights and bullet weights are similiar of these calibers there is little to no difference in felt recoil.
How well the rifle fits your build will be a more significant issue.
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: dscubame on November 26, 2010, 05:51:56 PM
Red Ryder.  .177 caliber and 350 fps.
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: low97ram on November 26, 2010, 06:01:24 PM
bought the savage edge .270 (camo) on veteran's day. shoots very well, scope is what it is...could be better but serves a purpose.  very straight (flat) shooter, but most 270's are anyways. 

pete
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: Rawr0192 on November 26, 2010, 06:03:11 PM
bought the savage edge .270 (camo) on veteran's day. shoots very well, scope is what it is...could be better but serves a purpose.  very straight (flat) shooter, but most 270's are anyways. 

pete
Thanks pete. does the scope work fine once you tighten it? also if i enjoy the gun enough i will find the money to buy a new scope.
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: low97ram on November 26, 2010, 06:26:11 PM
ya...tighten it first...then bore sight it.  read somewhere, or was told by some yahoo, that the gun/scope was already "rough sighted" to 20 yrds.  NOT...  bore sight it, sight it in yourself and you'll be fine.

good idea to get another scope later on...my idea too.
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: Rawr0192 on November 26, 2010, 06:40:48 PM
ya...tighten it first...then bore sight it.  read somewhere, or was told by some yahoo, that the gun/scope was already "rough sighted" to 20 yrds.  NOT...  bore sight it, sight it in yourself and you'll be fine.

good idea to get another scope later on...my idea too.

Yeah. i have always wondered what it would be like to hunt coyotes in eastern washington with a night vision scope. that would be pretty insane.
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: chester on November 26, 2010, 06:42:21 PM
just make sure you have a night vision scope off your gun when your hunting deer/bear/elk/grouse.   :bdid:
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: Rawr0192 on November 26, 2010, 06:44:37 PM
just make sure you have a night vision scope off your gun when your hunting deer/bear/elk/grouse.   :bdid:
Really? what if your hunting them at night?
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: chester on November 26, 2010, 06:55:47 PM
lol.... :sas:

fair enough.
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: Rawr0192 on November 26, 2010, 07:12:57 PM
lol.... :sas:

fair enough.
lol has anyone ever told you to think before you post?
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: Ben2Cold on November 26, 2010, 07:51:20 PM
both are good calibers I shoot a 308 and a 7mm RUM the 308 is pleasant to shoot the 7 is not so pleasant(its hard to ignore the fact when you sqeeze the trigger your going to get punched in the shoulder) I would recomend the 308 (shorter action lighter rifle ) at 300yrds the 270 only shoots a couple of inches higher ( flatter trjectory).
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: yorketransport on November 26, 2010, 07:52:33 PM
I'm a big fan of Savage firearms. I have 6 actions, 12 barrels and 7 stocks. Plus the Savage 99 in 300 Savage. I would recommend the Stevens Model 200 as an entry level gun. It will give you more options in aftermarket parts than an Axis (the new name for the Edge) will. The Stevens is just a stripped down Savage, so it will take the same stocks and upgraded parts as a comparable Savage action. If you're a big guy you may need to get a stock with a longer than average length of pull, so aftermarket support could be an important consideration.

As far as "big" calibers go, they don't start getting big until you're shooting bullets over 225gr at more than 2800. :P The 45-70 doesn't qualify as a big gun in any rifle. Put it in a handgun, and now we're talking! :chuckle: Don't start out with the big stuff though. the 270 and 308 would be great choices. work your way up to the bigger stuff unless you've been shooting the 308/30-06 class rounds for a while. Big guns take a lot of practice to get good with, and they certainly aren't cheap to shoot.

Andrew
Title: Re: my first gun
Post by: Rawr0192 on November 26, 2010, 08:28:54 PM
I'm a big fan of Savage firearms. I have 6 actions, 12 barrels and 7 stocks. Plus the Savage 99 in 300 Savage. I would recommend the Stevens Model 200 as an entry level gun. It will give you more options in aftermarket parts than an Axis (the new name for the Edge) will. The Stevens is just a stripped down Savage, so it will take the same stocks and upgraded parts as a comparable Savage action. If you're a big guy you may need to get a stock with a longer than average length of pull, so aftermarket support could be an important consideration.

As far as "big" calibers go, they don't start getting big until you're shooting bullets over 225gr at more than 2800. :P The 45-70 doesn't qualify as a big gun in any rifle. Put it in a handgun, and now we're talking! :chuckle: Don't start out with the big stuff though. the 270 and 308 would be great choices. work your way up to the bigger stuff unless you've been shooting the 308/30-06 class rounds for a while. Big guns take a lot of practice to get good with, and they certainly aren't cheap to shoot.

Andrew

Amen to that  :mgun:
a minigun is over a million to buy and your wasting hundreds to thousands a minute on ammo. so go for it bill gates :D
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