Post by: 724wd on November 28, 2010, 08:02:36 PM
or do you go for the neck slice with a knife?
I've had bad luck with the neck slice... my dad always said bullets are cheap. but now i'm shooting arrows, which aren't necessarily cheap and not sure what to do? :dunno:
Post by: Bean Counter on November 28, 2010, 08:04:53 PM
Post by: high country on November 28, 2010, 08:07:12 PM
Post by: Machias on November 28, 2010, 08:58:17 PM
Carry a mismatched flinger arrow on your quiver and just use a field tip. An extra shot at the heart should do it. Pretty hard to miss at 10 yards.
Wouldn't be legal to use a field point.
Post by: Bob33 on November 28, 2010, 09:03:47 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on November 28, 2010, 09:08:46 PM
Post by: bobcat on November 28, 2010, 09:21:05 PM
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on November 28, 2010, 09:51:23 PM
Going to mount it then don't cut the neck.
You can wait a little longer, but it truly sucks to see it suffer. Best thing is another arrow into. Yes use a broadhead. A field tip like said is not legal. And I would expect any Game Warden seeing you or I do something like that to write a ticket out. It is breaking the law no matter how many times you think it is ok.
Or you can also do like I did this year with Ranger in Wyoming on an antelope hunt. Walk up step on back legs, kneel on the front ones, grab the head tuck it into the chest grab the wind pipe and choke it out. Yes I wanted to mount that one and not ruin the cape.
Joe
Post by: Bob33 on November 28, 2010, 10:16:21 PM
I don't think the law is meant to prevent you from finishing off an animal as quickly and humanely as possible. I'd use whatever was best for the situation. If that happens to be an arrow with a field point, oh well. I can't see any game warden writing someone up for that.That sounds logical but we know for sure it would not be legal with a handgun, which would be quick and humane. I do think most officers would not cite for using a field tip, since it does not provide any hunting advantage like a handgun could. The interesting one to me is using a knife to cut the throat: that's not legal either but again I doubt any officer would cite someone.
Post by: high country on November 29, 2010, 07:05:27 AM
Post by: rasbo on November 29, 2010, 07:35:54 AM
Post by: Hunterman on November 29, 2010, 07:55:22 AM
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: h20hunter on November 29, 2010, 08:01:26 AM
Post by: halflife65 on November 29, 2010, 08:03:30 AM
I put him down with another broadhead,I would'nt even think about the cost..Its whats right..No brainer for me...
:yeah:
Post by: Annette on November 29, 2010, 08:26:39 AM
Carry a mismatched flinger arrow on your quiver and just use a field tip. An extra shot at the heart should do it. Pretty hard to miss at 10 yards.:dunno: Bean you know that's not legal....no field tips :(
If you hunt with your bow and need to do a follow up shot use another arrow or don't be hunting with a bow, Follow up arrow to the lungs for quick end.
For answers to your questions 724 you might attend a bowhunter education class next year before the season.
Post by: Thenewguy on November 29, 2010, 08:42:15 AM
Post by: ribka on November 29, 2010, 08:43:03 AM
Worried about cost of a broadhead use your knife :twocents:
Post by: npaull on November 29, 2010, 08:52:05 AM
Post by: addicted on November 29, 2010, 09:22:22 AM
If an animal is Sick, injured, or suffering in any way you as a hunter are to put it down reguardless of season, caliber, or any other prohibiting laws.
Post by: h20hunter on November 29, 2010, 09:41:14 AM
Post by: 724wd on November 29, 2010, 10:26:27 AM
small WT doe, stood up when the landowner started the plow truck. She didnt know i was there. i shot and though i missed. first shot a hit but i didn't know it at the time. she ran off and i circled the thicket to head her off and hopefully get another shot. i saw her bed down 80 yards away and though she just didn't want to wander in the blizzard. so i snuck up to 20 yards and shot her in her bed. hit hard. incapacitated, but still breathing. want to end the suffering as quickly as possible. not really concerned with cost of arrows, but with the quickest way to dispatch the animal. i did stick her again from point blank, through the lungs (twice :( ), but she wasn't dying fast enough, so i knifed her throat. just seemed a bit much, you know :'(? had i waited a couple of minutes, she'd have expired, but i wanted to end it as quick as possible. got some bloodshot meat from the coup de grace. saw she was leaving a blood trail and saw my first shot was a hit, but i'm still not sure where. there were too many holes in her to tell. :bdid: i though i missed high, but when i back tracked to find my arrow, it had good blood.
SOOOO.... if i'd have let her lay after the second shot, she would have died, but who knows how long? :dunno: i didn't want to make her suffer any longer than necessary, but the first finishing shot didn't get it done, and neither did the second one, leading to the knife. that's why i was wondering if you guy go for a head shot like a rifle?
Post by: Bean Counter on November 29, 2010, 10:34:59 AM
:dunno: Bean you know that's not legal....no field tips :(
My bad guys--follow the law. I haven't had this problem yet bc I have yet to kill any deer/elk with my bow yet :bash:
Post by: h20hunter on November 29, 2010, 10:38:18 AM
Post by: tlbradford on November 29, 2010, 11:40:54 AM
I would never shove another arrow in with my hand. What if your grip slips down the shaft? I wouldn't try knifing it by hand either, even with a hilt, these are strong animals. If they are hit hard enough for you to do anything by hand, then cut the throat. Otherwise, shoot another arrow into the heart, if you want to save the cape. This is bowhunting it may take another minute or two for the animal to die. That is the nature of a blade wound. Cutting an artery deprives vitals of blood, it takes time to bleed out or have organ failure. Cutting the windpipe asphyxiates an animal, this also takes a little time. Without being able to but a bullet in the brain, there is nothing else you can do to kill it faster.
I think it is the movie "Diehard" where he drops a unit heater on a guy and his legs are twitching. Someone says, "can you make it stop?" and the guy says, "What do you want me to do, kill him again?" To me that applies to this situation.
You don't have to like it, but that is the way it works when killing an animal while bowhunting.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 29, 2010, 12:00:03 PM
The movie was: the rock :IBCOOL: a great movie, i am also a big fan of the diehard movies :IBCOOL:
now back the the topic: I myself would shoot another arrow into the animal myself. I agree that most wardens, probably would not write a ticket for cutting the throat. They would have no way of knowing, that the animal was still alive when you did it. You could shoot a animal in the base of the skull with a arrow. for the coup de grace. that way the arrow is in a place you would not notice, if mounted. Or just shoot them in the vitals and let them bleed out.
Post by: Bob33 on November 29, 2010, 12:05:18 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 29, 2010, 12:11:12 PM
Post by: Bob33 on November 29, 2010, 12:20:24 PM
Post by: sakoshooter on November 29, 2010, 10:41:54 PM
Post by: addicted on November 29, 2010, 11:00:55 PM
I would completely disagree with the above statement when it comes to hunting specific seasons and specific equipement. It is legal for me to carry my .38 for protection but completely not legal to use it to dispatch a wounded game animal if I'm hunting archery. That is a ticket waiting to happen.
talking about german law, as much as i would like somethinglikethis to be adopted in the states, it is not my take along rule book.
Post by: high country on November 30, 2010, 08:41:55 AM
Post by: Mangy on December 01, 2010, 07:41:41 PM
You would have to check the regs but you could carry one of those Cold Steel Samburu spears and practice your spear chucking on your wounded game....just an idea. I think that's the spear they use on that Relentless Pursuit hunting show for pig hunting.
Post by: Annette on December 03, 2010, 11:24:12 PM
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Post by: lokidog on December 05, 2010, 09:01:59 PM
If it is still alive, my motto is stick another hole in it. This year's buck (MF) went down with a high, above the spine shot. Since I was next to the garage, I quick grabbed my bow and heart/lunged him to bleed him out, nice pink meat.
Many years ago, I shot a bull five times with four arrows... first one was a lung hit but he just did not want to go down. Darn tough critters.
Post by: 724wd on December 06, 2010, 12:57:09 PM
I wouldnt recomend cutting its throat. My neighbor and I tried that a couple of years ago with a buck :bdid: D
that's been my experience, just checking what you all do.