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Equipment & Gear => Power Equipment & RV => Topic started by: chukar-ridge-quest on April 10, 2008, 05:05:22 PM
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I need new tires for my rig. Used to run BFG A\T's on my old Yota and loved them but didn't get good miles out of them on my GMC2500. Switched to Cooper STT and got just under 40k. What do you guys like?
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I think M-55 Toyos 10 ply are the best tire on the market. For years however they went only to 16 inch. Dodge and everyone went to 17 inch rims. I begged Toyo to move to that size and they finally did last year. Its an AWESOME tire.
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I just put Toyo M/T 295/75 R17 on my 05 Dodge. From what I hear I will like them.
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Bone what kind of mileage? Quiet on road and sticky off?
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I have the Cooper STT 33x12.50 on my Dodge, so far I love them! We will see what I get for mileage........
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i like the idea of getting more than 40k miles out of my tires that i paid a lot of dough for, first of all. i have run nothing but bf goodrich all terrain k'o's on my last 2 trucks and got 50k miles out of them. my '02 silverado has the les schwab 265/70/17 sxt mud terrain's on it currently and have 43k miles on them and still have 6mm tread depth remaining. i like these tires a lot as well, but i just priced out replacements...$1200.00 :yike: that would be for 285's, gonna go 1 size bigger.
rotate your tires every 6k miles and you should get much better than 40k miles out of a quality set of tires. mud terrain tires are typically softer rubber and don't last as long.
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I got some maxxis bighorns. They arent so quiet but dont sopund like baja claws either. I dont think they will last 40k miles though cause that would eb alto on those big mt tires.
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I got about 50 K out of them, but I took them off early as I like traction. I probably could have milked a few. I log alot of miles as you know on the hi-way and the woods. They were good for both...a good compromise. I was turned onto them when I logged a bit. All of the loggers liked them on their trucks. Its important to rotate them or they wll cup on you. Best traction I have ever had in a tire. I have had them regular....I have had them siped.....and I have had hem studded. The 10 ply is a must if you spend much time in the woods or haul wood.
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Isn't the 10-ply pretty harsh for ride though?
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I haven't really noticed. I have them now as well. I'd rather be a little stiff than changing tires.
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True.
I had some 8 ply on the Dodge prior and they were really harsh. Every pepple felt like a canyon. So far I love the STT ride and handling, but I am concerned on the wear.
Got a steal on them for the set since my old tires had torque cracks after a year. Got the Coopers as a replacement under warranty.
Really like the Toyos too.
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You can let a little air out of them, bu then that dips into the gas mileage a little. With the suspensions of the newer trucks, it may not e as much of an issue if you are in an older ride.
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I need new tires for my rig. Used to run BFG A\T's on my old Yota and loved them but didn't get good miles out of them on my GMC2500. Switched to Cooper STT and got just under 40k. What do you guys like?
Man I had those BFG A/T's on my F250 and they were terrible in the dirt once it started to get wet. They just held that *censored* and packed it on until it was rubbing the wheel wells. I'll never get another set of them :bdid:
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Over here on the Wet side, I prefer the BFG Mud Terrains. They give good traction in the mud and clean out really fast. I rotate them every 5k and change them out after about 35K. Then I give them to my buddy who runs them for another 10k -20k. I prefer to change them out sooner and keep better traction out in the woods, costs me a little more but gives me a better piece of mind when I'm out in the sticks.
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I have Toyo MTs on my dodge. I've got 50K on them, I need new ones now but thats pretty good for a 38" tire.
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Those Toyo M-55's are a good tire. That's all we used to use on our survey rigs and as you can imagine, working as a land surveyor, there weren't many places we wouldn't take our truck so that we could get as close as possible to a job. I'm thinking of putting a set of them on my Silverado this summer, just before hunting season. I've got Bridgestone A/T Duelers right now, and they're at somewhere between 35 and 40 thousand miles. Still legal, but I want a little more tread than what they've got for hunting season. My truck's a half ton, and my tires are 8-ply (load range D.) They do ride a little harsher than the stock tires, but it's well worth it knowing they will hold up better on rock, that a 6-ply tire couldn't handle. The last thing I want to deal with when I'm on a hunt is a flat tire. I don't think I'd go to a 10 ply, but for a 3/4 ton truck I sure would.
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I've been running the Toyo's on my Dodge for the last two sets of tires. The M-55's were good but I think the m/t's are better off road. They are suprisingly quiet on road for an aggressive tread.
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I have had real good performance with Wildcat Mud Terrains from Les Schwab. I thought they were going to be loud but they are actually quieter than the Goodrich tires. The gumbo in Montana can be tough to drive in and they handle that crap with ease. I won't go anywhere else for tires, those guys are the best.
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I have been running the Les Schwab Toyo MT Open Country, 10 ply with the neato chunky sidewalls since July. I got so damned sick of eating shale / cutting thru my tires in the wenas every summer. Sidewall cuts and punctures will (hopefully) be a thing of the past. They worked so well in the snow this season, that I did not install my snow tires this winter.
I little chunky for an around the town tire.... I can live with that...
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Runnin' the Toyo MT's as well. I have about 16,000 miles on them and so far I love em'!!
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Goodyear for my :4w:
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A few years ago I was looking to put new tires on my Tundra. I was all set to go w/ the Toyo Open Country (Les Schwabb)... had heard decent things about em. About a week for I was going to buy em I was up in BC doing some salmon fishing and I noticed our guide had Yokohama Geolanders on his truck. He bought them on the advise of his friend who is a bear hunting guide on Vac Island. Said that they held up better than anything he'd used in the rocks etc and were great in the snow/rain and on pavement. I ended up buying a set.... 10 ply cuz I have a little camper and tow a boat. Got almost 60K on em now. Been really happy. Actually put a set on my wife's Highlander. Price is competitive and performance has been really good. I will buy em again.
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Mikey Thomposons......MTZ baby all the way......
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8635206845006143796
unfotunatly i had to get rid of her so im stuck with stock crap rubber....
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Toyo MTs are also good or adequate. That what I had to go with since M-55's weren't rimmed for 17s. Now however, I'll be mounting them up. My MTs are also 10 ply. You can get them in 6 or 10. Again, being a local in the Wenas, 10 ply are a must.....don't stand up to coyote vertabrae very well. :chuckle:
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I have had real good performance with Wildcat Mud Terrains from Les Schwab. I thought they were going to be loud but they are actually quieter than the Goodrich tires. The gumbo in Montana can be tough to drive in and they handle that crap with ease. I won't go anywhere else for tires, those guys are the best.
these are what i am running as well i believe.
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I'm a Super Swamper guy. I dont care much about the wear but I usualy get about 40,000 out of them. I am running 38.5 14.50x15 TSL SX swampers on my Toyota now. We put a set of coopers on my wifes 98 F150 and are really liking them. They are 35's. They have the same tread pattern as the Toyo's.
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What I need to know is if they'll fit on my 24" spinners and hold up to the hydros? -- REALLY? HAVE U MET ME :mor:
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Who's the :mor:? :dunno: ;)
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Toyo...got 'em on the Tacoma and the Caravan. Got nearly 63,000 out of the ones on the Tacoma before replacing them. I go into Les Schwab every other oil change to get the tires rotated, check air about once a month honestly, but do look at the tires nearly every time I go for a ride to make sure they don't look low etc.
If I did not buy Toyo I'd probably get Coopers.
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BFG mud terrain are great tires as well.
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I Run the toyo Mud terrains on my 01' Tacoma. Absolutely love them, they are quiet on the road and they rock offroad. I just rolled 40k and they have 50% tread left on them. Personally I dont thing there is a better tire on the market.
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I'll second the Toyo MT's, I just rolled 55k on them and they still have adequate tred. I will be getting some new ones before the end of summer though to make sure I'm ready for fall. There a great tire off road and are quiet on the road...They do spray alot of mud though, but mine are slightly off set.
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Do any of you guys have those toyo mud terrains on a superduty? i am curious to see how many miles you are getting. i have heard various reports from friends of mine.
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you cant go wrong with any toyo that you buy. I have had a couple different sets of them and they are the *censored*. Lots of miles if you take care of them. But that is true with any tire. The best set of tires i have ever had though were bfg open trail or something like that and i got 55K out of them with out rotating them once. But they were between an all terrain and a hi way tire.
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I had toyo Wildcats on my old hunting truck, and those mothers were so sticky and soft, they would pick up sharp rocks, and you would pound them home on your next few revolutions and you have a flat. I got three flats in them, and finally had Les Schwab eat them and set me up with the open country, much harder rubber... (a few years ago......)
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Crap I am getting old....went and checked, those wildcats were swapped out in 97', not a "few" years ago...." They might not even sell those tires anymore....
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Better put that beer down! That was a long time ago.
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I've been running the bridgestone dueler A/T Revo in a 10 ply and have done really well with them. 60,000 miles with about 20k of that on logging roads and the only flat I've had was a screw. I haul a lot of wood and bear feed and used to have problems with Toyo's as soon as you got to half tread and rocks started pushing through. I still have another two months or so on these and will definitely get the same thing. $1100 for the set mounted.
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I have Toyo Mt's on my powerstroke, I got them last year while I was scouting Elk and they have performed well, allthough I couldn't tell you if my milage has changed I haven't wanted to check since Diesel has been over 3.80+ a gallon! The day I pulled tmike out of the ditch with a few inches of snow on the ground in Idaho he made a b-line to town and bought himself a set too! I was impressed how well they did in the snow, and hauling my camper has never been better!
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Have Open Country Toyo A/T's on my 1 ton Ford suburban....second set. First set went over 63k and still had decent thread left. Probably could have gotten another 5-7 k out of them. New set has approximately 10k and still essentially look brand new. Of course I religiously rotate every 5k. Great tires...quiet onroad and good performance off road.
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My 06 chevy had the Bridgestone duelers on it stock. Crap tires. I got two flats with rocks right thru the tread.
50k, just got new open country Toyos, after last week I can say they are far better in mud/snow than the bridgestones ever were. I went for 10 ply. hope they last well.
Carl
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I am using MFG Mud Terrain's...they work really well.
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I have Toyo M55 on the F350 Dually. Ride good, do not bulge under load, and are easy to balance. They wear good too. 8)
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BFG AT
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I know alot of loggers that switch to the M55,s in the winter they say they are the best tire made. I personally have tried the Toyo A/T and currently have Copper Discover ST much better than the STT better traction than the Toyo A/T and M/T. They do awesome on pavement no road noise, they work good in gravel and dirt, unlimited grip in mud and I have never once broke loose in snow or ice. And the best part is I bought them because they were the cheapest traction tire on the market at the time. I am a poor college student.
Brandon
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Good thread here and discussion, I have been debating which tire to go with for my truck. I always ran 265 Coopers AT's for years on several different trucks, load range E, 50K plus mileage, excellent in snow, ice, general crap conditions, it was the primary tire used by most on the haul road, wouldn't run anything else mainly for their lack of chipping on dirt roads and toughness for cuts/tears/flats... -But they don't make a 285 tire in E range, I see alot of folks running the Toyo MT's, pricey buggers but seems like mileage is in the 50 K range, about two years Max for me... Besides Les Swaub is close and seems like they are a good company... Might also check into the M-55's.. Mileage, durability and E range are my main factors...
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You cannot go wrong with those tires,Mike. It is what I was looking for, but I got the Cooper STT from Discount much cheaper than Les Schwab. My dad ran his well over 50k, and I have over 20k on mine with no wear signs at all.
Either of these three would be my first choice again. STT are aggressive, fairly quiet considering and so far happy with mileage. Toyo would be first choice, but cost prohibitive.
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I have my sixth set of BFG mud terrains on my third truck. They are great in the mud and snow, look great and they last a long time compared to other mud tires, the only downfall is they are a little spendy.
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I currently have the toyo MT's 315/75/R16. They are great. I've got 25k miles on them and haven't had any problems with cupping or unusual wear. On my old truck I had BFG all terrains. They were a good tire but regardless of how I had them rotated they always seemed to wear unevenly even after alignment. As far as where to go I would say Les Schwaub. They have a great warrenty and they are all over the Western US. You may pay a few bucks more but they won't breaks the studs and not repair them like some other businesses.
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Went out and did the tire purchase. Toyo's MT 285/75/16 had Central 4 X 4 install a leveling kit, they fit perfectly, only had to trim the under plastic by three inches, no where else rub and tried everything and turned up and down through a ditch to see if they would and they don't. Like the look and can't wait to go into the muddy roads..........
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You should like those, I got over 40,000 miles on mine and am getting ready for new ones.
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Ka-ching!
Mike, now you are going to have to put a lift kit on your boat trailer! :chuckle:
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Why are you awake at 0344hrs???? Go to sleep man, go to sleep...
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Da hunt! No time for sleep! If I am going to check in here occasionally, and get all the gear ready, no sleep allowed... :'(
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Goodyear MTR 285-75 R16 center siped on the jeep cj-7. If you want milage you wont get off road performance. Softer tires make for better grip. They will fall apart on the high torque diesels but for off road they are great. Im on my third set and will buy a fourth.
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I just put Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT275/70R18 on my 07 Tundra this spring. So far they have been great although I did get a harsher ride with the load range E. Had to put a RevTek lift on to accomadate the bigger tires (used the 2WD kit for the front cause it gave me a 2 3/4 inch spacer instead of the 2.5). Been offroad a few times and they seemed to work great. They do pick up rocks and you get that clack, clack noise on the pavement and they do have some road noise in the cab, but not terrible. It is nice to be different, though (Sorry Toyo and BFG clubs). Can't wait to try them out in the snow.
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I have had so many flats while off road that I have to carry my dive tank, regulator and tire adaptor with me. A few years ago WF70 and I had just loaded my Montana buck in the carrier and headed up to the service road, when we got there we spotted a couple more BIG bucks so we stopped to glass them. After we were done drooling :drool: we went to get back in and saw one of the fronts was flat :bash: We went to the back to get the spare and jack and saw a rear was flat too >:( 60 miles from town out in the sage, not good. We limped in to town and got them fixed but man that sucked. I can pump up my tires with the tank now so its not so bad unless its a huge hole. That Excursion weighs 8000lbs and is hard on tires. The best I have found since then is the Les Schwab Wild Country Mud Terrains, flats have not been a issue with those.
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hankook Dynapro MT RT03
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I am giving these a shot this year puting them on my wrangler, center lugs will be syped still thinking i might stud them...get them today :IBCOOL:
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I just got some nitto mud grapplers 35/14.5 and man do I love them. They are very expensive but the ride quality is great the traction is outstanding, and when I balanced them they took less weight then most car tires I have done, but they are a little loud. I just took them out in the mud for the first time the other day and never had to put my bronco in 4wheel drive, I couldn't even hardly stand in the road and not slip but the tires got traction and didn't really spin that much.
My wifes 2006 explorer has the terragrapplers and they are a great tire too, we put them on it last year and during the winter we drove it in about 3ft of snow a didn't have a problem. :yike: I'm sold on nittos quality in tires I think you get what you pay for and after working for 4 years in tires shops I have seen what brands are better then others and I have to say the nittos really shine other a lot of brands. Cooper, micky, interco, and ect all make great tires too and I have can just about all of them at one point, Cooper makes a lot of the other companies tires and do a great job doing it too. My last set of tires was the cooper discoverer s/t and it was a great tire that never let me down and I would pass up a good deal on them. The only tires I have had problems with are the BFG A/T's/T/A's. The KM/km2, crawlers seem to be a great tires and I havent seen any have major problem's. :twocents:
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I would recommend 3 tires. I say three because my dad swears by one, my uncle swears by one and myself has one.
FIRST is mine which is BFGoodrich ATs KO :drool:, have had 2 sets first set was on my 96 S-10 when I bought it. They worked very well I put about 20,000 miles on them then I had a sidewall blow out and had to buy a cheap set of Les Schwabs for $$ reasons. Then put a set on my 03 Silverado 1500 had them snipped. 265/70R16 Load range D. Never had a problem with them, they worked awsome in the snow and ice, and where quite on the road. I never got into a whole lot of mud, but did very well in mud around the farm in Goldendale, and did outstanding in the dunes at Moses Lake. They also have a seal of approval by WSDOT, for winter driving you don't have to put on chains when chains are required. Put 40,000 miles on them and they where still about 45% tread left, traded off that truck and the new Silverado had 17" tires so I couldn't switch them. Otherwise I would of. :'(
My dad swears by Goodyear Wrangler MTS, manager at the local goodyear shop has had 2 pairs of them and my dad just put his first set on his dodge 2500 cummins.
My uncle has had 2 sets of Goodyear Wrangler ATS and he loves them. He has a Toyota Tacoma, he gets good mileage out of them, but they have a little road noise.
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I like the BFG AT's as well. I am gonna look into getting a set for my truck. I also like the Firestone Transforce. I have those on my Suburban. We use the transforce at work on all our ambulances and one ton brush trucks. They are put to the test every day and they preform well! I think the transforce is a 10 ply? I will go with eather the BFG's or the Transforce.
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I like the les schwabs txr ,I dont off road but they get me where I want to go.Plus schwabby is every where if I do have a problem.
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Im not a fan of the AT, they clog up too quick in a little mud. I prefer the BFG Mud Terrain KM. I have them on my Jeep I take everywhere. :hello:
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I ended up putting the Firestone Transforce on my rig. They look good, and should do a great job!
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I just put Toyo M/T 295/75 R17 on my 05 Dodge. From what I hear I will like them.
I have the same exact tires on my 03 Dodge. I like them alot and they are not overly loud either.
Travis
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BFG AT KO's. 75k on a 97 taco 4x4- these replaced the factory tires. Still a lot of tread left, but I'm due. Only stuck once- slid off the trail into the ditch in the snow. (would like to blame the tires.. but... buddies say driver error :rolleyes:)
Snow is my determinig factor. I recently went to both Les Schwab and Discount who told me to stay away from mud terrains :dunno: They said big lugs = hockey pucks on compact snow, and wont ride on top of new snow very well...forcing you to power/chew through- which might be fun but not that safe.
They both told me A/Ts perform much better in fresh and compact snow - they are snow rated.
For the record- I wanted a M/T (bfg or toyo)- came in last month looking to buy some bigger more aggressive (yeah... and cool looking) tires. I gave them every chance to sell me a more expensive tire in a M/T... but they both kept steering me away from the M/T's ... unless (they said) I was going to be wheelin' or finding myself in deep mud- which I haven't had issues with in the past 10 years. The dumps of 1-2 feet of snow in Nov. is when it gets sketchy for me.
Haven't bought yet... so interested in more snow opinions too.
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I've run Les Schwab Toyo MT Open Country 10 plys on my last two trucks with no complaints.
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Dansk, (as I stated earlier) the MT's worked pretty good for me this past season in a bit of snow. I still may get them siped for the ice, didnt even break out my studded tires last year... Any snomobilers pulling trailers with the MT's?
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its too bad les schwab quite making the good ole wild country RVT's. i have the bighorns which were supposed to replace wild counrtry and they dont even compare...
