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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: Hornseeker on December 02, 2010, 07:55:27 AM

Title: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: Hornseeker on December 02, 2010, 07:55:27 AM: I am curious what official weight of meat you've put away? All my bulls and cows are from Montana. I have put anywhere from 185# to 219# of boned, trimmed, Clean elk meat in the freezer. No beef/pork fat added yet. Usually use about 40-50# of fat for various sausages and burgers....

How much meat do some of them dam big Rosies put out???
Title: Re: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: MagKarl on December 02, 2010, 09:44:36 AM: I cut my own as you do. No bones, no fat, all trimmed before its wrapped. I shot a 4x5 in Toutle last season and got 220lbs according to my bathroom scale.
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Post by: Bean Counter on December 02, 2010, 09:50:30 AM: My close huntin' buddy and I have always split our spoils 50/50.
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Post by: high country on December 02, 2010, 10:10:27 AM: a few years back I pulled a rosie tag and a eastside tag.....the year of the drawing debacle. I shot the biggest of the herd on both tags and I would guess the rosie was good for about 10-15lbs of meat above the rocky.....not a lot bigger.
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Post by: Hornseeker on December 02, 2010, 10:32:56 AM: Reason I ask, is because this year I have yet to weigh all my meat...but the hind quarters of this freakin monster bull I killed were smaller than the hinds from my last two "avg-small 6 points"... Without the Hock and hoof, the last two bulls hinds weighed in at 62 and 65# each. This big old bulls quarters, WITH the hocks and hoof, weighed 58!!! Couldn't believe it!
Title: Re: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: Hornseeker on December 02, 2010, 11:01:15 AM: Yeppers, I have about 95# from a buck and a doe...put this approx. 200# in the freeze with about 45# of fat on that... I wont be cruising the meat aisle much... :hello:
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Post by: Lightning_Rider on December 02, 2010, 01:34:51 PM: I killed a rosey bull last year that was 630lbs field dressed and got about 250lbs off it...lotta fat on em!
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Post by: bucklucky on December 02, 2010, 01:38:04 PM: Hey Ernie, that little 5x5 Roosie I killed this year the hinds (Bone in) were 65 ea. Front shoulders (Bone In) were 35 each, and the rest of the meat was boned out for a grand total of 260 lbs.
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Post by: salmonslayer1 on December 02, 2010, 04:41:08 PM: when i put fat on my meat it cant be beat :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Post by: Backstrap on December 02, 2010, 06:14:46 PM: Biggest Rosie I killed, the back legs cut off at the achiles, skin removed, weighed 85 pounds each. Biggest Rosie I've ever seen weighed 860 field dressed. I saw it first hand at the butcher shop. I could not reach around the burr with both hands. Those were true Rosies.
Title: Re: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: Hornseeker on December 02, 2010, 06:20:07 PM: 85# each....dam! I think my buddies 320 bull was in the low 70's this year... much bigger than my dang 370 bull.... (but my antlers weighed more) 8)
Title: Re: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: Backstrap on December 02, 2010, 06:26:54 PM: Quote from: Hornseeker on December 02, 2010, 06:20:07 PM
85# each....dam! I think my buddies 320 bull was in the low 70's this year... much bigger than my dang 370 bull.... (but my antlers weighed more) 8)

I though my bull was big, but that 860 field dressed bull made mine look like a cub scout.
Title: Re: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: Tman on December 02, 2010, 06:30:32 PM: I shot a cow in 2008 winston unit, and after cut wrap, weighed the meat at 331 lbs bone-in. That included 25lbs jerky, 25lbs pepperoni, not sure about the amount of fat added to the burger, etc.
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Post by: runningboard on December 02, 2010, 06:45:19 PM: My wife's 4x4 from Idaho went 455 on the hook before being boned out.
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Post by: Jellymon on December 02, 2010, 06:50:13 PM: My 300" 6x6 rosie weighed just at 495lbs at butcher. That was just meat and bone.
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Post by: 50CalJim on December 02, 2010, 07:15:11 PM: 327 lbs of pure boneless meat is what my Nooksack Bull weighed this yr according to the Bathroom scales. :EAT:
Title: Re: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: Hornseeker on December 03, 2010, 05:14:42 AM: 327 is big.... I've heard really big numbers reported in the past. I had a bud kill a 360 bull just out of Issaquah many years ago. He reportedly put 500# in the freezer. I suspect that could have been 350+ pounds of elk mixed with a bunch of pork and beef for burger and sausage???
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Post by: Instinct on December 03, 2010, 10:40:14 AM: Not to thread jack but what would be the avg weight of the quarters wth the bone n hide intact?
Title: Re: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: GoldTip on December 03, 2010, 11:20:27 AM: Quote from: Hornseeker on December 03, 2010, 05:14:42 AM
327 is big.... I've heard really big numbers reported in the past. I had a bud kill a 360 bull just out of Issaquah many years ago. He reportedly put 500# in the freezer. I suspect that could have been 350+ pounds of elk mixed with a bunch of pork and beef for burger and sausage???

I would agree with your assesment. My bet is there had to be a 30% fat/meat mix ratio in his burger to get anywhere near that. I'm not entirely sure we got 500lbs of pure meat off my Canadian bull Moose in 2008, and he weighed 785lbs hanging whole without head and hide and guts.
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Post by: spottedhand on December 05, 2010, 07:24:17 PM: I killed a 6x5 9year old muzzie rosie in the willapa which the butcher estimated 1100lbs on the hoof. All said and done I got 600lbs meat (Cut the steaks with the bone in them) the rest burger 'no added fat'. We weighed the neck from front of shoulder to ~8" from the head. It weighed 85lbs. The meat was a deep dark purple. It was some tough but delicious eating. Damn burger was almost tough. :yike:
Title: Re: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: Axle on December 05, 2010, 07:46:52 PM: Quote
I killed a 6x5 9year old muzzie rosie in the willapa which the butcher estimated 1100lbs on the hoof. All said and done I got 600lbs meat

Not possible.
600 lbs of meat would equal an 1800 lb on-the-hoof (or better) elk.
Title: Re: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: LittleJohn on December 05, 2010, 08:00:12 PM: My Mont. Bull this year was 339 lbs of boned meat. The butcher never saw the rack till I picked it up. He said it must have a big rack with a body like that Me said he has only had a couple bulls that weighed that much in his shop. :dunno: :dunno: I have never had a scale in WA to weigh my animals.
Title: Re: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: high country on December 05, 2010, 08:12:43 PM: i use the 2/5 rule and it is typically pretty close. total boned meat is = to 2/5 live weight. I agree that I have never seen or heard of a 1500lb elk
Title: Re: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: Axle on December 05, 2010, 08:48:51 PM: Quote
I agree that I have never seen or heard of a 1500lb elk

I've heard of one but it was second hand news. A guy by the name of Tom - who owned Fish-n-Tom's Tackle in Renton - told me years ago that a bull was darted on Long Island by the gamies. He claims it was measured and weighed. He said that they said if it was shot, it would be the new state record and that when they tried to weigh it with their scale that went up to 1500 lbs, it weighed more than the scale could weigh.

It is hear-say. I can't verify it and don't know of anyone who can, but this I know - the next year, the game department made long Island spike or antlerless only. That rule alone would convince me he was talking truth because the game department would not want the big one shot.
I have seen some huge elk on Long Island. The biggest I've ever laid eyes on.
I've read stories of rather large elk in Canada. I guess it all depends on food and severity of winter.
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Post by: Coastal_native on December 05, 2010, 09:12:42 PM: Interesting...

I have a text book that shows the approximate mean live weight vs. the approximate food yield for all elk species...It is in reference to historical native american subsistance...

Roosevelt: 842 lbs live weight - 571 lbs food yield
Rocky Mt: 600 lbs live weight - 407 lbs food yield

Those guys must have ate everything!
Title: Re: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: hookr23 on December 05, 2010, 09:15:07 PM: This bull was taken from farmland by a 67 y/o friend of mine (guy in the pic). It was placed whole in the back of my truck and we skinned it and delivered it whole to the butcher who weighed it at 372 lbs. You guys that are weighing bulls in at 500lbs might want to check your scales.
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Post by: norsepeak on December 05, 2010, 09:18:45 PM: brought home 441 lbs. cut and wrapped from this guy... :dunno:
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Post by: Annette on December 05, 2010, 09:35:57 PM: My Bull weighed in at 440 hanging at the locker...with out the back straps or tenderloins this year.
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Post by: Coastal_native on December 05, 2010, 09:39:39 PM: One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the difference in weight of a bull killed the first week of september compared to a bull killed the last week of october. There is a significant reduction in weight post rut. When comparing the hanging weight between two different mature bulls you have to consider the time of year it was harvested.
Title: Re: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: Hornseeker on December 06, 2010, 07:17:25 AM: There is a huge variation in elk weight...there is the "norm" of course... and the "average" but there are small ones and big ones too... Some Rosies and a even a few rockys will tip the scales at 1000# plus pounds. There is no doubt. But they are rare!

I have scraped the bones on a couple of my bulls and like I said, 240# or so is max meat production for me. The bull this year is the trophy of a lifetime, and wont weigh what some of my 3 yr old 5 points weighed! :dunno: :dunno:

So....I'm not going to say anyones full of "bull".... the numbers of 400+ in the freezer are crazy, but doable.... That 600# number is completely insane!!!!! I'd have to see that one to believe it.

Afognak Island as the biggest elk. I think the biggest bull ever weighed there, whole, was about 1300#.... :yike:
Title: Re: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: Jellymon on December 07, 2010, 11:51:26 AM: Thats a good point coastal native. I got mine on september 7th. The two halves hanging at the butcher equalled 495 with bone and nothing else. He has weighed many of our animals and yes his scales are accurate. I dont know how much pure meat we brought home though. At 495 meat and bone, what would be a good educated guess at what we brought home? All I know is there were a ton of bags! :P
Title: Re: Elk Meat Weight
Post by: Jellymon on December 07, 2010, 11:55:23 AM: Quote from: hookr23 on December 05, 2010, 09:15:07 PM
This bull was taken from farmland by a 67 y/o friend of mine (guy in the pic). It was placed whole in the back of my truck and we skinned it and delivered it whole to the butcher who weighed it at 372 lbs. You guys that are weighing bulls in at 500lbs might want to check your scales.

Number of points doesnt equal large body size. While that is a great elk he is a little on the thin side. Yes there are many bulls from western washington that weigh around the 450-500lb mark, just meat and bone.