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Title: .338
Post by: rock on December 05, 2010, 08:34:27 AM
I wanna get a .338 for elk, deer, bear. i am likeing the bolt actions. i want a light weight one. i can put a sissy pad on it if the recoil gets to be a pain. i was wondering what brands you guys would reccomend. i am stuck on the .338 caliber though
thanks
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Gutpile on December 05, 2010, 08:37:14 AM
Tikka t3 lite. Have fun.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .338
Post by: ing on December 05, 2010, 08:56:01 AM
Kimber Montana
Title: Re: .338
Post by: demontang on December 05, 2010, 09:02:14 AM
Weatherby, savage, or howa
Title: Re: .338
Post by: rock on December 05, 2010, 10:48:30 AM
Thanks for the suggestions. I ahve actually have considering Tika t3 lite but they are a little bit outa my price range. my max is 500 without a scope. what about the mossbergs?
Title: Re: .338
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 05, 2010, 11:04:04 AM
If you get the basic tikka rifle i thnk they run about 550.00 i think it might be worth saving a little bit more for. they are a great gun! Howa might be a good choice for you as well. But in that price range the tikka blows the rest out of the water  :twocents:
Title: Re: .338
Post by: yorketransport on December 05, 2010, 11:24:15 AM
The Weatherby Vanguard or Savage model 111 would both be good choices. The Savage is a little lighter on paper, but I believe the Weatherby is less expensive. I've never owned a Howa, but isn't it the same action used on the Weatherby Vanguard? I'm a Savage guy, but I think any of them would work well for you. Excellent choice on the caliber as well. I love the 338 bore.

Andrew
Title: Re: .338
Post by: addicted on December 05, 2010, 11:27:38 AM
338wm, 338Fed, 338mxlr, 8mmRM

There is a whole nother side to this arguement.  :rolleyes:

for the rifle within 500$..... savage probably, if not a cheapy stocked remington. Savage with the accutrigger would be great though.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: huntandjeep on December 05, 2010, 01:37:11 PM
 weaterby or kimber
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Gutpile on December 05, 2010, 02:32:15 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. I ahve actually have considering Tika t3 lite but they are a little bit outa my price range. my max is 500 without a scope. what about the mossbergs?

They go on sale a lot. I bought mine for under 5 bills. Not a 338 though. Dont forget if your price shopping on the web don't pay any attention to the MSRP thats on the factory sites. It's anywhere from 10%-30% higher than the actual price.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 05, 2010, 02:36:42 PM
IDEA !!! Go snoop around some pawn shops. That's what I'd do.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Hyde on December 05, 2010, 05:14:20 PM
There's 375 bolt action "338's" on Gunbroker right now. 
Title: Re: .338
Post by: rock on December 05, 2010, 05:25:08 PM
Yeah the dicks closest to me is selling a mossberg .338 for  $450 without a scope
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Gutpile on December 05, 2010, 05:25:41 PM
If you pay that much for a Mossy your crazy
Title: Re: .338
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on December 05, 2010, 05:28:09 PM
I have had a savage 338 win mag since 1992, have killed numerous animals with it. Never had a problem except one time, some idiot (myself) decided to take the bolt apart to clean it. Was at the gun shop the next day getting it put back together. he charged me 20.00 and lunch just for being stupid.

Joe
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Huntbear on December 05, 2010, 05:52:18 PM
My nephew bought one of the Howa's.  It shoots like a dream, and he paid right at 5 for it I believe.  They, also,  have a fully adjustable trigger on em. 
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 05, 2010, 06:00:40 PM
   
.338 Vanguard
Price: $414.99
Manufacturer: WEATHERBY INC
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Impact Item #: 747115407842
Available online, ships in 5-7 business days.
Call for in-store availability.
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Title: Re: .338
Post by: Huntbear on December 05, 2010, 06:07:35 PM
The Vanguard and the Howa, are basically identical rifles.  Made in the same factory in Japan.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: yorketransport on December 05, 2010, 07:13:00 PM
I have had a savage 338 win mag since 1992, have killed numerous animals with it. Never had a problem except one time, some idiot (myself) decided to take the bolt apart to clean it. Was at the gun shop the next day getting it put back together. he charged me 20.00 and lunch just for being stupid.

Joe
Not to get too off topic, but that is pretty funny. :chuckle:

I was sitting at my desk looking at a diagram for 15 minutes before I got up the nerve to dissasemble the bolt on my first Savage. Now I do it all the time. I've never had to bring a "bag gun" to a shop, but I've come pretty close a few times.

Andrew
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Huntbear on December 05, 2010, 07:29:43 PM
If you reload, when you are ready, will give you a killer .338 load.  Shoot me a pm.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: demontang on December 05, 2010, 09:05:53 PM
I love my vanguard. It's never let me down and it's a shooter that's for sure. The Howard is the same gun pretty much. I have a mossberg 100atr and it's a he'll of a good shooter but the 100atr only comes in 06 or 270 I believe. The 338 comes in the 4x4 which I have no idea how those are.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: DoubleJ on December 05, 2010, 09:20:31 PM
I have had a savage 338 win mag since 1992, have killed numerous animals with it. Never had a problem except one time, some idiot (myself) decided to take the bolt apart to clean it. Was at the gun shop the next day getting it put back together. he charged me 20.00 and lunch just for being stupid.

Joe
Not to get too off topic, but that is pretty funny. :chuckle:

I was sitting at my desk looking at a diagram for 15 minutes before I got up the nerve to dissasemble the bolt on my first Savage. Now I do it all the time. I've never had to bring a "bag gun" to a shop, but I've come pretty close a few times.

Andrew

I took mine apart to clean it one day too.  4 hours later I had it back together with a lot of sweat on my head.


That .243 barrel shoots straight as can be.  Thanks again.  The lesson you gave me on barrel swapping was great.  I do it all the time now.





You guys can have your thread back.  Sorry.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: wsucowboy on December 05, 2010, 10:40:27 PM
I was looking at the cabelas website a few months and they had Browning A bolts on sale for around 550-600. My dad has one in 338 and he loves it. Had it for about 10 years. Taken 7 deer and 3 elk with it. No ruined meat on the deer like some folks think there would be.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: rock on December 06, 2010, 04:02:48 AM
Yeah the 4x4 is it. mossberg and savage are fav. brands. But i juss want a heavy duty lightweight gun. for the wet side and anywhere else i take it. Thanks for all the suggestions. ANd to huntbear i i dont reload but thanks anyway
Title: Re: .338
Post by: BigGoonTuna on December 06, 2010, 08:32:56 AM
The Vanguard and the Howa, are basically identical rifles.  Made in the same factory in Japan.
the actions are identical, the only real difference is that one has that ugly weatherby stock  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Bulldozer on December 06, 2010, 08:33:53 AM
I picked up a Stainless Ruger MkII 338 win with a B&C stock for 350 at a pawn shop. Had a terrible trigger which is probly why it was there. Picked up a Timney trigger on sale for 100 and put on a good scope. Got a very nice shooter now for less than the price of a new rifle.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: addicted on December 06, 2010, 10:04:36 AM
one reason i wish i was in the states is the pawn shops. with the econemy i bet they are a playground for firearms shoppers.

take a look in the pawn shops. take the bolt out and take a look down the barrel. looks glossy without burrs or pitting and you are good to go.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Missing on December 06, 2010, 12:06:25 PM
I don't know what your shot distance will be but I would look at the 338 Federal, I have one in a TC Encore and it is a good shooter. I also have a Ruger 77 in 338 WM and it is a real kicker.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: thinkingman on December 06, 2010, 12:13:18 PM
I wanna get a .338 for elk, deer, bear. i am likeing the bolt actions. i want a light weight one. i can put a sissy pad on it if the recoil gets to be a pain. i was wondering what brands you guys would reccomend. i am stuck on the .338 caliber though
thanks
Find a Tikka T3 Lite in 338WM and shoot it without the sissy pad....report back to us if you persist in calling them 'sissy pads'
Light weight and 338WM=pain and suffering.
I'd like to be there for your first shot.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Buckmark on December 06, 2010, 12:18:42 PM
Seen a few Browning A-bolts in .338 in your price range used...
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If you need a as you call it "sissy pad" why are you looking at a .338, sure alot of whimpy guns out there that dont need sissy pads... :chuckle:
Title: Re: .338
Post by: rock on December 06, 2010, 03:31:05 PM
i have shot a light weight 12 gauge semi auto with 3 1/2 inche magnum turkey loads. without the butt pad. is that comparable? lol
Title: Re: .338
Post by: addicted on December 06, 2010, 07:15:49 PM
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=204937031 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=204937031)

no kick. still lots of thump. i would shoot anything in north america with that bad boy.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: demontang on December 07, 2010, 07:29:16 AM
yea Ive shot a butt load of rounds out a shot gun and I dont think any compare to a .338win with out a pad.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: high country on December 07, 2010, 07:42:05 AM
i have shot a light weight 12 gauge semi auto with 3 1/2 inche magnum turkey loads. without the butt pad. is that comparable? lol

I have a shot a boatload of light 12's and they are not the same as a 338, but the single worst pounding I have seen out of a 338winnie is that ruger boat paddle stocked gun. piss poor stock geometery, small surface area on the "pad", it curves the wrong way and the gun is reasonably light for a 338 to begin with.....that said, it is not that bad, but it could be a hell of a lot better.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: tlbradford on December 07, 2010, 10:49:52 AM
When I was looking for a factory load for my Sako s/s .338, I shot 5 shot groups of 4 types of ammo.  I had the factory pad on there, and shots 18-20 I was starting to flinch.  I shot my .204 for awhile and came back to the last box of ammo to see how it grouped when I didn't flinch.  I put on a limbsaver and it isn't bad off the bench anymore.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: mazama on December 07, 2010, 08:32:48 PM
I have a 19inch 338 lightweiht for hunting in timber i just add an extra pad when i practice with it.It doesn't compare in kick compared to my 338Rum.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Huntbear on December 07, 2010, 09:38:53 PM
.338 does not kick that hard...  sorry if the gun fits you properly, with a decent recoil pad on it, it will give you a good push, about it. 

I can put 20 rds through my Sako, and not even have a sore shoulder.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Rick on December 08, 2010, 10:18:50 AM


I have a shot a boatload of light 12's and they are not the same as a 338, but the single worst pounding I have seen out of a 338winnie is that ruger boat paddle stocked gun. piss poor stock geometery, small surface area on the "pad", it curves the wrong way and the gun is reasonably light for a 338 to begin with.....that said, it is not that bad, but it could be a hell of a lot better.

Thats funny. I had a boat paddle Ruger .338 and IMO it was a puzzy cat. Sold it because it wasn't "reasonably light",that thing was close to 10lbs ready to hunt.

A guy here on Hunt Wa bought it.

Title: Re: .338
Post by: Woodchuck on December 08, 2010, 10:24:09 AM
i have an original m77 in .338 with an original stock and yes it kicks but belted magnums kinda do but it isnt as bad as some .300's i have shot. if recoil is an issue there are lots of great cartridges out there that arent as harsh  :dunno: if you are in the neighborhood sometime i am happy to let you shoot mine to get a feel for it
Title: Re: .338
Post by: KimberRich on December 08, 2010, 10:28:53 AM
i have shot a light weight 12 gauge semi auto with 3 1/2 inche magnum turkey loads. without the butt pad. is that comparable? lol

Shoot some 3 1/2's through a pump gun.  That would be closer. 
Title: Re: .338
Post by: high country on December 08, 2010, 11:31:47 AM


I have a shot a boatload of light 12's and they are not the same as a 338, but the single worst pounding I have seen out of a 338winnie is that ruger boat paddle stocked gun. piss poor stock geometery, small surface area on the "pad", it curves the wrong way and the gun is reasonably light for a 338 to begin with.....that said, it is not that bad, but it could be a hell of a lot better.

Thats funny. I had a boat paddle Ruger .338 and IMO it was a puzzy cat. Sold it because it wasn't "reasonably light",that thing was close to 10lbs ready to hunt.

A guy here on Hunt Wa bought it.



either yours was of a differnt build then mine or you are one tough hombre' ......mine was more miserable to shoot then my 6.5lb unbroke 300rum.....99% becuse of piss poor design.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Rick on December 08, 2010, 02:18:19 PM


I have a shot a boatload of light 12's and they are not the same as a 338, but the single worst pounding I have seen out of a 338winnie is that ruger boat paddle stocked gun. piss poor stock geometery, small surface area on the "pad", it curves the wrong way and the gun is reasonably light for a 338 to begin with.....that said, it is not that bad, but it could be a hell of a lot better.

Thats funny. I had a boat paddle Ruger .338 and IMO it was a puzzy cat. Sold it because it wasn't "reasonably light",that thing was close to 10lbs ready to hunt.

A guy here on Hunt Wa bought it.



either yours was of a differnt build then mine or you are one tough hombre' ......mine was more miserable to shoot then my 6.5lb unbroke 300rum.....99% becuse of piss poor design.

Its interesting how peoples perception of recoil can be so different.  It all boils down to the way the rifle fits a guy.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: elkslayer069 on December 08, 2010, 11:14:35 PM
ruger m77 hawkeye but im a die hard ruger slut  :)
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Skinnyman on December 11, 2010, 06:47:29 PM
I have a 338 WM Savage 116. Paid $529, have seen them since for $569. Not sure when the new year models come out, but might be a good time to try when they are getting rid of last years.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: shedcrazy on December 11, 2010, 06:54:30 PM
I love my Ruger M77, any animal in North America dead...Nuff said.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: addicted on December 11, 2010, 10:54:13 PM
I love my Ruger M77, any animal in North America dead...Nuff said.

heard the same thing about the 300wm, and the 3006.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Schwag173 on December 27, 2010, 09:20:32 PM
If you don't plan on shooting more than 300 yards, a .338-'06 will do for you anything the bigger magnums will ... and with a LOT less recoil.  The downside is that .338-'06 is not as macho and common, so rifle selection will be limited.  .338-'06 has gained a following in places like western Washington (for elk and black bear) where average ranges are under 100 yards but occasionally you might need to reach out.  Great cartridge with about half the recoil of the .338 Win Mag.

If I was to go looking for another one, I'd try looking on Gunbroker.com.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: addicted on December 27, 2010, 11:49:17 PM
look on www.egun.de (http://www.egun.de)  a whole nother selection. they ship to your front door.  ;)
Title: Re: .338
Post by: rock on December 28, 2010, 03:50:44 PM
If you don't plan on shooting more than 300 yards, a .338-'06 will do for you anything the bigger magnums will ... and with a LOT less recoil.  The downside is that .338-'06 is not as macho and common, so rifle selection will be limited.  .338-'06 has gained a following in places like western Washington (for elk and black bear) where average ranges are under 100 yards but occasionally you might need to reach out.  Great cartridge with about half the recoil of the .338 Win Mag.

If I was to go looking for another one, I'd try looking on Gunbroker.com.

I am not to worried about the recoil. But wouldnt ammo prices be alot more for that gun as that caliber isnt as common?
Title: Re: .338
Post by: grundy53 on December 28, 2010, 04:05:03 PM
should get a .338 ultra mag.....
Title: Re: .338
Post by: elkslayer069 on December 28, 2010, 10:58:32 PM
save your change and get a ruger m77 love mine would give my left you now what for it any day of the week without a second of thought. I have the all weather version kicks the same as my 270 win partially because they come with a real nice recoil pad already.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 28, 2010, 11:06:23 PM
If you don't plan on shooting more than 300 yards, a .338-'06 will do for you anything the bigger magnums will ... and with a LOT less recoil.  The downside is that .338-'06 is not as macho and common, so rifle selection will be limited.  .338-'06 has gained a following in places like western Washington (for elk and black bear) where average ranges are under 100 yards but occasionally you might need to reach out.  Great cartridge with about half the recoil of the .338 Win Mag.

If I was to go looking for another one, I'd try looking on Gunbroker.com.

I am not to worried about the recoil. But wouldnt ammo prices be alot more for that gun as that caliber isnt as common?


Maybe, maybe not.  If you reload, you can use .30-06 brass--which is not expensive and quite available.  If you run the brass through the right increment of caliber dies....you can use .30-06 brass for:  .25-06, .270 Win, .280 Rem, .338-06, .35 Whelen.  If I missed a few, I'm sure someone will point it out.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: cascademountainhunter on December 28, 2010, 11:24:56 PM
I want one too! In a Remington 700.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Schwag173 on January 01, 2011, 07:36:46 PM
If you don't plan on shooting more than 300 yards, a .338-'06 will do for you anything the bigger magnums will ... and with a LOT less recoil.  The downside is that .338-'06 is not as macho and common, so rifle selection will be limited.  .338-'06 has gained a following in places like western Washington (for elk and black bear) where average ranges are under 100 yards but occasionally you might need to reach out.  Great cartridge with about half the recoil of the .338 Win Mag.

If I was to go looking for another one, I'd try looking on Gunbroker.com.

I am not to worried about the recoil. But wouldnt ammo prices be alot more for that gun as that caliber isnt as common?


Maybe, maybe not.  If you reload, you can use .30-06 brass--which is not expensive and quite available.  If you run the brass through the right increment of caliber dies....you can use .30-06 brass for:  .25-06, .270 Win, .280 Rem, .338-06, .35 Whelen.  If I missed a few, I'm sure someone will point it out.

JimmyHoffa is exactly right.  If you reload, you'll use less powder and cheaper brass for a substantail cost-savings over time.  I expand .30-'06 brass in the .338-'06 necksizing die for my loading.  As for rifle prices, they'll be the same as any other chambering.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: 2506 on January 01, 2011, 08:18:24 PM
tc venture/ tc icon. :twocents:
Title: Re: .338
Post by: SquirrelHunter on January 07, 2011, 03:58:09 PM
I have a Mossberg 4x4 .338 winmag, cost me $329, has a fact installed muzzle brake. I love it, shoots easy sub-MOA at 100yds, and maintains MOA at 300. I bought a Millett LRS-1 scope for it, but could easily get a cheaper brand and remain at $500 or just under.  took some gophers easily out at 250yds in montana last summer. not sure what the rules are for posting websites on here, so PM and I can send you the site
Title: Re: .338
Post by: addicted on January 08, 2011, 12:47:34 AM
my buddy was showing me his 338mag sendero that he bought brand new 4-5 years ago for 299$  :yike:
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Harold on January 08, 2011, 03:20:29 AM
howa or vangaurd will give you the best quality for your money in my opinion. and unless your reloading the .338 isint the best caliber just because the price of the ammo.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: p-ohana on January 08, 2011, 07:20:16 PM
I got a Howa 338 about 8 months ago. Recoil is not bad at all and accurate as great. It shoots a 3/4 inch group at 100yds and a 2 inch group a 400yds. And you can get one for under $500.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: Yak-NDN on January 09, 2011, 11:21:00 AM
Ruger 77 at hammers rite now with a break on it.
Title: Re: .338
Post by: rock on January 10, 2011, 02:06:57 PM
I dont shoot that much so i am too worried about ammo prices. And PM sent
Title: Re: .338
Post by: 338_Thumper on January 13, 2011, 12:31:12 PM
I shoot a Browning A-Bolt -- I really like the feature of a Clip fed gun - I have one in the gun and I carry a spare in my pocket. I don"t know how many times I've been in the truck and have a animal cross the road and the other guys are trying to load their guns and I just pop in the clip and I am ready to go. I have harvested Elk and Deer because of this .
Also I use Federal 225 grain Trophy Bonded Bear Claw Bullets and it shoots Dime size groups at 100 yards !
I also put a Gentry Mussle Brake ( The Ports angle away) on it and when I go to the range I always shoot at least a box and a half of shells in my Tee Shirt. It kicks less than a 308 and the muzzle jump is like only 6"
The 6 point Bull Elk I shot this year at 210 yards in the neck knocked him right off his feet. It was pretty impressive.

My boy a few years back (he was 13 and 14 at the time) in the same drainage harvested (2) spikes elk - on the Range Finder the first one was 485 yards and the next year it was 510 yards - Both (1) shot kills
We take the gun out during the summer and shoot out to 600 yards at a 4x8 sheet of plywood  then mark the drop of the bullet on a lamiated card and tape it to the stock for reference. It has worked pretty good for us. I do love my .338 - That's why I nickname it Thumper !
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