Post by: huntergreg on December 21, 2010, 06:23:46 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on December 21, 2010, 06:29:24 PM
Post by: longrange7mm on December 21, 2010, 06:29:53 PM
Post by: HardCorpsHuntr on December 21, 2010, 06:37:36 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on December 21, 2010, 06:38:43 PM
Post by: bobcat on December 21, 2010, 06:39:17 PM
Post by: longrange7mm on December 21, 2010, 06:39:36 PM
i was wondering the same thing... i was eyeing wyoming,... but just can't figure out how things work out there. can someone simplify those regs and licence fees and apps for me? or is there someplace better than wyoing?Wy antelope license price is 272.00 for non res. then a 14.00 application fee. so 286. for a goat
Go to hunting home page half way down is a link for non res hunting info and application - http://gf.state.wy.us/wildlife/hunting/NonResident/index.asp (http://gf.state.wy.us/wildlife/hunting/NonResident/index.asp)
Then go down to antelope look at the map and the season information. you can reference these areas with draw odds and harvest reports hope that helps.
If you need more help PM me
Post by: HardCorpsHuntr on December 21, 2010, 06:42:56 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on December 21, 2010, 06:45:09 PM
Are you wanting a buck, or are you fine with a doe/fawn. You can get either over the counter in Wyoming in some units.
i want meat.
and just the experience ... :)
Post by: longrange7mm on December 21, 2010, 06:45:34 PM
I know there are many units in Wyoming that a person can draw every year, but they are the units that are predominantly private land. So you may have to be willing to pay an access fee.
Sorry i was gunna mention this in my last post but on WY hunting home page check out the private land public wildlife it is a great program. I normally donate $5.00 with my app even though i dont hunt these units in particular There are a lot of farmers that are happy to let you hunt just give them your landowner coupon after harvest they get $16 for every deer that gets taken off there land. also check the hunter management areas.
Post by: MHWASH on December 21, 2010, 06:47:30 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 21, 2010, 06:48:00 PM
Post by: MHWASH on December 21, 2010, 06:50:09 PM
Are you wanting a buck, or are you fine with a doe/fawn. You can get either over the counter in Wyoming in some units.
i want meat.
and just the experience ... :)
Don't go there just for meat, Buy a couple of doe/fawn tags for $34 and a buck tag. You won't believe the # of antelope, I bet we passed on 50-75 bucks a day.
Post by: HardCorpsHuntr on December 21, 2010, 06:53:37 PM
Are you wanting a buck, or are you fine with a doe/fawn. You can get either over the counter in Wyoming in some units.
i want meat.
and just the experience ... :)
Where DOUBLELUNG and I hunt there has been years where we could kill 7 goats a piece. I think this year it was 5! I've never taken more than one a year. DOUBLELUNG would be the one to PM, as he worked for Wyoming G&F for several years out of Casper (goat capital).
Post by: longrange7mm on December 21, 2010, 07:07:47 PM
I have always heard that for numbers, go to WY, for monsters go to MT
I have heard that nevada,arizona,nm is were the big boys are but its all about what units you hunt in any state. If its an area that you can draw easily you can count on that the quality is low. also if you want a trophy goat look for the areas that are hard to draw with anything but 4 pref points.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 21, 2010, 07:13:15 PM
I have always heard that for numbers, go to WY, for monsters go to MT
I have heard that nevada,arizona,nm is were the big boys are but its all about what units you hunt in any state. If its an area that you can draw easily you can count on that the quality is low. also if you want a trophy goat look for the areas that are hard to draw with anything but 4 pref points.
Yes that is 100% true :chuckle: I was just talking about between MT and WY. But there is some mega goats in NV,AZ,NM :drool:
Post by: longrange7mm on December 21, 2010, 07:25:55 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 21, 2010, 07:41:57 PM
Here are a couple Wyoming bucks I took in 2008 and 2009:
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Post by: BIGINNER on December 21, 2010, 07:55:23 PM
In my opinion the best state starts with "W", and it's not Washington or Wisconsin. They have the most speed goats, and you can find 15" bucks on public land if you work at it. Lots and lots of animals, lots and lots of public land.
west virginia???!! no way!! lol just tell us.... please
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 21, 2010, 08:10:07 PM
Post by: longrange7mm on December 21, 2010, 08:18:20 PM
Post by: longrange7mm on December 21, 2010, 08:21:36 PM
Nice animals you got there Bob!!x2 i like the 2nd pic thats a great pic of ur goat
Post by: Bob33 on December 21, 2010, 10:38:28 PM
In my opinion the best state starts with "W", and it's not Washington or Wisconsin. They have the most speed goats, and you can find 15" bucks on public land if you work at it. Lots and lots of animals, lots and lots of public land.
west virginia???!! no way!! lol just tell us.... please
Psst...don't tell anyone...it's Wyoming. ;)
Post by: Craig on December 22, 2010, 08:51:17 AM
Post by: Ridgerunner on December 22, 2010, 09:05:16 AM
Post by: DaveBTS on December 22, 2010, 09:27:51 AM
I heard Monday that the Yakima tribe is bringing some antelope in. If they don't kill them all, we should be able to hunt them in 10 years. There's already a small herd above Naches on private land.
Post by: Gutpile on December 22, 2010, 09:34:55 AM
WY is the place for me but it's the only state I've hunted them. Literally thousands of animals to choose from. They are one of the funnest things to hunt, you can make it easy or hard. My 2010 lope hunt was the funnest hunt I've ever been on, I can't wait to go back.
Post by: Bob33 on December 22, 2010, 08:43:10 PM
so.. can you get over the counter tags in wyoming?Sort of. There are always surplus tags available. These can be purchased first come, first served. Some of the units never sell their surplus tags. Most of the tags are doe/fawn and cost about $35. In many units you can get up to four.
There are surplus "any antelope" tags, but they're generally in areas that are virtually all private land.
To get an "any antelope" tag in most of the units, it is a draw. Draw odds go from around 5% up to 100%, depending on the unit. Again, the units with the best draw odds tend to have very little public land.
If you simply want to hunt for meat, get four doe/fawn tags in one of the 70 units: 70, 72, or 73. You will have a great time and should tag out. There is quite a bit of public land, and also some private "walk in" areas.
Post by: sakoshooter on December 22, 2010, 10:37:45 PM
Post by: GWP on December 23, 2010, 12:39:51 AM
Post by: Bigshooter on December 23, 2010, 07:52:20 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on December 23, 2010, 07:56:01 PM
Post by: jdb on December 23, 2010, 08:22:29 PM
Wy, by far is your best bet due to sheer numbers.exactly where above naches??
I heard Monday that the Yakima tribe is bringing some antelope in. If they don't kill them all, we should be able to hunt them in 10 years. There's already a small herd above Naches on private land.
Post by: Hangfire on December 24, 2010, 07:13:12 AM
In the 70's there were a few pronghorn on the firing center, I believe they were poached out. I saw the head of one a agent had confiscated. person thought it was a deer.
I have heard of a small inbred group some where around Ephrata? Any one know about them.
What I have heard is these pronghorn are leftovers from some introductions in the 30's prior to the irrigation projects.
There are pronghorn in Oregon just across the river at the east end of the gorge. I wish they would swim the river.
Post by: cohoho on December 24, 2010, 10:26:30 AM
Post by: BushMonster on December 24, 2010, 10:29:12 AM
Post by: npaull on January 01, 2011, 11:38:31 AM
How realistic would it be for a bowhunter (longbow, 20-25 yards) to hunt for doe antelope in WY, do-it-yourself?
I'd love to go and hunt, I really don't care at all about antlers, but a lot of the country looks like stalking would be difficult. Could a bowhunter expect to get a doe or two?
Thanks.
Post by: Bob33 on January 01, 2011, 11:56:30 AM
Bob and others with knowledge of WY antelope:Very realistic to hunt! Now, harvesting one is another question :chuckle:
How realistic would it be for a bowhunter (longbow, 20-25 yards) to hunt for doe antelope in WY, do-it-yourself?
I'd love to go and hunt, I really don't care at all about antlers, but a lot of the country looks like stalking would be difficult. Could a bowhunter expect to get a doe or two?
Thanks.
Here is the great thing about Wyoming: you get an antelope tag that is not weapon specific like Washington. You can hunt with archery equipment starting September 1. If you don't fill your tag by rifle season, you can use the same tag to hunt with a rifle.
I tried archery a few years ago. I was not able to get any closer than 80 yards to a doe. Believe it or not, the bucks are easier to stalk in September. I think the only realistic way to hunt antelope with a bow is either with a decoy, or a blind by a water hole. However, there is no real drawback to trying. Just bring a rifle. Try archery a few days before the rifle season. If it doesn't work and you want to fill your tag, hunt with the rifle.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 01, 2011, 12:07:46 PM
Bob and others with knowledge of WY antelope:Extremely doable. Spot and stalk is possible, you have to be strategic in where you hunt - fortunately, those interspersed irrigated lands and sage uplands are where most of the doe tags are. Should have no problem getting access to hunt does on the private. Irrigation ditches and stream courses are great stalking. Antelope are very predictable in where they crawl under fences or walk trails between alfalfa and uplands. Ranchers or ranchhands can often point out where they come in and leave. In dry country, you could sit a blind over a water tank or small pond - not my cup of tea though. I hunted with a compound, but all my shots were between 22 and 35 yards. Find the trails they are using, look for ambush points with tall sagebrush or greasewood for concealment. I never dug ground blinds, but would find strategic spots where I could sit with my legs hanging off a bank and tall brush to the sides and behind - take a small saw to trim up your shooting lanes. Your best bets, IMHO will be along the I-25 corridor through Sheridan and Casper regions, a late July call to those regional offices will help identify alfalfa growers with damage claims where tags are available. Cody and Lander Regions have similar issues, with more public land uplands and are closer, but antelope densities are generally lower.
How realistic would it be for a bowhunter (longbow, 20-25 yards) to hunt for doe antelope in WY, do-it-yourself?
I'd love to go and hunt, I really don't care at all about antlers, but a lot of the country looks like stalking would be difficult. Could a bowhunter expect to get a doe or two?
Thanks.
Early archery seasons open in August for some areas, my advice would be to bowhunt mornings only (like 4am to 9am), and have a cooler 1/2 full of ice at the ready to bone that critter out and get it on ice ASAP.
Post by: npaull on January 02, 2011, 09:30:21 AM
Post by: ribka on January 02, 2011, 09:50:28 AM
Thanks for the advice Bob33 and Doublelung. Sounds like I need to look into it more - seems like a really fun hunt. Any other advice you guys would have for a longbow hunter looking to head down there?
Good advice doublelung
It is possible to get within distance with a long bow. Not easy but doable with the right terrain. PM Ray He took a yote doe with a long bow.
http://www.pronghornbows.com/Pages/Photos-Pronghorn.htm (http://www.pronghornbows.com/Pages/Photos-Pronghorn.htm)
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 02, 2011, 06:20:31 PM
Where did the information come from about pronghorn near Natches, or the Yakima's bringing in animals?
In the 70's there were a few pronghorn on the firing center, I believe they were poached out. I saw the head of one a agent had confiscated. person thought it was a deer.
I have heard of a small inbred group some where around Ephrata? Any one know about them.
What I have heard is these pronghorn are leftovers from some introductions in the 30's prior to the irrigation projects.
There are pronghorn in Oregon just across the river at the east end of the gorge. I wish they would swim the river.
Yep they got poached out. And yes i wish they could swim the river :chuckle: Or maybe someone leave the gates open, on the dam :chuckle: Like they did with the big horn sheep :chuckle:
Post by: MtnMuley on January 04, 2011, 12:23:32 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 04, 2011, 12:58:30 PM
Thanks for the advice Bob33 and Doublelung. Sounds like I need to look into it more - seems like a really fun hunt. Any other advice you guys would have for a longbow hunter looking to head down there?If you go in September, you can hunt deer too in the same spots. Doe/fawn deer licenses are same price as antelope.
Post by: Hangfire on January 04, 2011, 09:04:33 PM
Post by: Malardman on January 04, 2011, 09:14:01 PM
Post by: Hangfire on January 04, 2011, 09:27:43 PM
Post by: engelwood on February 28, 2011, 11:02:55 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on March 01, 2011, 07:19:05 AM
Check out Eastman's hunting journal, jan/feb issue and you will see where the best trophy states are. Wyoming is not number 1, but is way up there. Based on costs and land access, I would think WY would be a great choice. There are some units available that average near or at 100% success each year for NR hunters. Tag cost is just over $200. Good luck if you go.I will bet that a significant portion of the trophy antelope shot in Wyoming, by residents anyway, never see the book. When working antelope hunters out of Casper, I saw B&C bucks at check stations and during field checks nearly every year. Those killed by residents rarely ever appear in B&C, in my experience. To a lot of Wyoming residents, pronghorn were strictly a jerky/sausage hunt before the "real" seasons. A classic case of familiarity breeding contempt.