Post by: GEARHEAD on December 22, 2010, 12:56:24 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on December 22, 2010, 01:04:37 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 22, 2010, 01:19:53 PM
Post by: SkookumHntr on December 22, 2010, 01:44:29 PM
Post by: mazama on December 22, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
Post by: halflife65 on December 22, 2010, 05:27:52 PM
The great thing is that they also stole a Sage rod. Probably went down and hawked them for $15 so they could buy some more crank. Piece of $h!t that pretends it's a person.
Anyway, back on subject. They worked pretty well for me but, with today's great binos that focus, I wouldn't buy a pair.
If you meant variable power I don't have any experience with them. Except for special application (like hunting Coues deer or something with magnum binos like 15 x 50s) an 8x or 10x40 work just fine - don't really know why you'd need the variable power. If I hunted mostly timber I'd get the 8x or mostly wide open (or open timber) I'd get the 10x. However, each will work in most situations. There are probably a lot of (valid) opinions on this but that's mine.
Post by: GEARHEAD on December 22, 2010, 09:57:00 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 22, 2010, 10:17:27 PM
Post by: sakoshooter on December 23, 2010, 02:49:40 AM
They are not a very good solution to an optical problem. If the binocular does not focus, that means your eyes need to. That equals eye strain. Friends don't let friends buy fixed focus binoculars :)
Rifle scopes use one(1)eye, not two(2). Bino's use two(2)eyes. Most people do not have two eyes exactly the same so as Bob stated earlier, if your bino's can't focus, your eyes will try to adjust even though they won't be able to completely. You'll end up with headaches etc from the eye strain. Buy good bino's that are adjustable. Even in the timber, you won't be focusing all that often.
Post by: BLUEBULLS on December 23, 2010, 05:38:20 AM
Bring an extra bottle of Ibuprofen if you're going to glass for long periods.
they do shine in certain instances :twocents:
Post by: Bob33 on December 23, 2010, 06:18:03 AM
"Fixed focus binoculars rely on the flexibility of your eye to keep the image clear and in focus. This is not a problem for children and young adults, but as you get older the eye slowly loses its ability to focus and so for anyone about 40 or over, these binoculars could produce a lot of eye strain."
http://www.birdwatchersdigest.com/site/optics/focusing.aspx (http://www.birdwatchersdigest.com/site/optics/focusing.aspx)
"First, there are the so-called "no-focus" or "focus-free" binoculars, to list just two. These binoculars have no center wheel or movable eyepieces--there is nothing to adjust or focus at all. You simply look through the binoculars, and everything is supposedly in focus all the time, no matter how far away. It's a miracle! What will they think of next?
There is really nothing new here at all. Focus-free binoculars are nothing more than a cheap version of the old individual eyepiece focus design, with the focusing feature removed to keep the price down. Essentially, these binoculars have been permanently focused at the factory.
Read the fine print. These "miracles" are limited to people who have perfect 20/20 vision and eyes of equal strength, since there is no way to adjust them at all. Worst of all, "no-focus" are really "can't-focus" binoculars for distances much under 30 yards.
Last, these are exclusively bargain instruments--prolonged use is sure to put you on an eye doctor's Christmas list. "
Post by: GEARHEAD on December 23, 2010, 09:35:36 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on December 23, 2010, 10:54:43 AM
pretty sure i said fixed focus.
I'm pretty sure you did, too. Did you review your topic line, though? ;)
Post by: sooperfly on December 23, 2010, 11:16:54 AM
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Evidently I am in the minority, but I am extremely happy with my fixed focus Steiners. I also got tired of turning the focus wheel constantly while using gloves in the late archery season. Now I just pull them up, look, let them down. I have also used them glassing more open country for hours with zero eye strain. I am very nearsighted and wear contacts - no problem with setting the initial focus. If your eyes are slightly different you can set the focus for each eyepiece separately.
A good way of setting the focus is after you get where you are going to hunt, after you get about 50 yds or so look back to your rig and get a really good focus on your license plate. Now you are good to go from close to long range. Your mileage might vary, so I would suggest trying out a pair! I have both the 8x30 MM and 10x50 MM - the 10x50's are head and shoulders above the 8x30s. Tell you what, you pay the shipping and I'll send you one of my pairs to try out.
Post by: mazama on December 23, 2010, 05:49:54 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on December 23, 2010, 06:01:16 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 23, 2010, 06:14:06 PM
Post by: GEARHEAD on December 23, 2010, 08:17:32 PM