Post by: Gutpile on December 23, 2010, 08:27:17 AM
Post by: demontang on December 23, 2010, 08:35:06 AM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 23, 2010, 08:42:16 AM
Post by: Gutpile on December 23, 2010, 08:46:30 AM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 23, 2010, 08:56:34 AM
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Post by: Gutpile on December 23, 2010, 09:23:49 AM
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Post by: Gutpile on December 23, 2010, 09:30:15 AM
I think the remodeled 710 is called 770
I think your right.
Post by: Gutpile on December 23, 2010, 09:31:01 AM
I believe the sps came in different styles like tactical, varmit and even a normal barrel.
It does.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on December 23, 2010, 10:29:34 AM
Post by: Gutpile on December 23, 2010, 10:31:22 AM
SPS is the successor line to the ADL. Their current entry-level M700. Many different configurations. It is a REAL M700, though, not a reborn 710.
Thats what I was wondering. Thanks. The price difference between the SPS and the BDL is significant, thats why I asked. Probably the high sheen and nice wood on the BDL makes the difference.
Post by: DRobnsn on December 23, 2010, 10:59:33 AM
I figured with the money I saved on the sps vs Bdl I could buy a good stock and trigger and have a more personalized M700 for about the same price.
By the way my friend and I use the same load/bullet combo and both guns perform very close in group size. Even with the crap stock on the sps.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 23, 2010, 11:02:27 AM
Post by: Gutpile on December 23, 2010, 11:04:24 AM
Out of curiosity I went to the Remington.com website. The number of 700 variations is mind-boggling! Evidently, my .17 Fireball is the varmint SPS with a heavy contour barrel. I'd go open the safe and look if I wasn't so lazy. :sry:
I know and half of them, if not more are discontinued. Remington drives me crazy.
Post by: GoldTip on December 23, 2010, 11:06:44 AM
A friend of mine bought a 7mm rum in bdl and I bought one in the sps. Same barrel 26 inch, differences are trigger, stock obviously, and finish all the sps's I have seen are matte black. The stock on the sps sucks it sits tight against the barrel if you tried to float the barrel the stock would just crack, it can't hold without the support on the for end from the barrel.
I figured with the money I saved on the sps vs Bdl I could buy a good stock and trigger and have a more personalized M700 for about the same price.
By the way my friend and I use the same load/bullet combo and both guns perform very close in group size. Even with the crap stock on the sps.
I bought one of the "SPS" gun in 7mm08 and have been very pleased. Drawbacks are no drop magazine and does not have the "new" adjustable remington trigger. Advantages, about $250 cheaper. I've found the same as you, shoots just fine, yes stock feels cheap, but it's a workhorse gun and I've even developed a love for my old boat paddle stocked synthetic Ruger, so if I can love that stock, there's not much I can't love in a stock!
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 23, 2010, 11:28:25 AM
As for the ugly synthetic stock, it doesn't hurt as much to scratch a plastic stock. Like I tell the youngsters: The only thing that gets easier as you get older is falling down. :chuckle:
Post by: Gutpile on December 23, 2010, 11:31:43 AM
Strange that you say that the trigger is not adjustable. Both of my 700's, the SPS and VTR have the adjustable triggers. You do, however, have to remove the action from the stock and pry out the waxy plug on the allen head set screw to change the adjustment. The early "new" triggers had the adjustment hole for the allen key in the trigger, but I think they changed it to make it harder to get it set too "hairy".
As for the ugly synthetic stock, it doesn't hurt as much to scratch a plastic stock. Like I tell the youngsters: The only thing that gets easier as you get older is falling down. :chuckle:
I think he meant they don't have the "new" X trigger.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 23, 2010, 11:45:03 AM
Post by: Gutpile on December 23, 2010, 11:46:06 AM
Post by: whacker1 on December 23, 2010, 01:36:34 PM
Post by: jgregg on December 23, 2010, 01:57:11 PM
Post by: Gutpile on December 23, 2010, 02:48:59 PM
Gutpile. I bought a 22-250 November of 2009. I was going to buy a bull barrrel SPS and decided to go with a Howa 1500. I am a remington guy, so that was a hard decision to make, but I really do like the HOWA 1500 with the Hogue stock. I save about $125 and it shoots really nice. Downside is that it is a little on the heavy side as the HOWA carries a little more weight in the action. But still not as heavy as the remington in a bull barrel. The HOWA includes the drop down magazine and an adjustable trigger. I am relatively impressed with the HOWA for $400.
Thanks but I'm only looking at a 700 SPS because it's chambered in the 7mm RUM. Not necesarily the gun I'm interested in, it's the caliber. Don't think Howa chambers that caliber.
Post by: whacker1 on December 23, 2010, 04:07:16 PM
I have 300 RUM in Remington XCR. I am not sure how the SPS stock will feel with the RUM recoil, so you might ask some questions of anyone that has an SPS in an RUM. The XCR is a significantly more recoil absorbing stock than the old Remington Stocks and recoil pads. food for thought as well as the price tag.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 23, 2010, 04:14:10 PM
I'm so lathered up I can't stand it. I love killin' coyotes....... :drool: :drool:
Post by: Gutpile on December 23, 2010, 04:16:49 PM
I just bought a 22-250 SPS w/xtrigger set at 3.5 lbs. Going to Grand Coulee next week to try it out along with my new Rock River 223.[
I'm so lathered up I can't stand it. I love killin' coyotes....... :drool: :drool:
:yike: :chuckle: :yike: :chuckle: :yike:
:mgun:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 23, 2010, 04:31:00 PM
I just bought a 22-250 SPS w/xtrigger set at 3.5 lbs. Going to Grand Coulee next week to try it out along with my new Rock River 223.[
I'm so lathered up I can't stand it. I love killin' coyotes....... :drool: :drool:
:yike: :chuckle: :yike: :chuckle: :yike:
:mgun:
You think like me ....................
Post by: MHWASH on December 23, 2010, 05:26:52 PM
I just bought a 22-250 SPS w/xtrigger set at 3.5 lbs. Going to Grand Coulee next week to try it out along with my new Rock River 223.[
I'm so lathered up I can't stand it. I love killin' coyotes....... :drool: :drool:
:yike: :chuckle: :yike: :chuckle: :yike:
:mgun:
For your sake CAMPMEAT I hope not. :bdid:
You think like me ....................
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 23, 2010, 05:58:59 PM
I just bought a 22-250 SPS w/xtrigger set at 3.5 lbs. Going to Grand Coulee next week to try it out along with my new Rock River 223.[
I'm so lathered up I can't stand it. I love killin' coyotes....... :drool: :drool:
:yike: :chuckle: :yike: :chuckle: :yike:
:mgun:
For your sake CAMPMEAT I hope not. :bdid:
You think like me ....................
Maybe a little bit ...
Post by: Gutpile on December 23, 2010, 06:22:44 PM
Post by: littletoes on December 23, 2010, 09:43:29 PM
I've purchased three in the last few years, one for each of my Son's and another for my Wife, and they all shoot the same load very well, which I'm thankful for. Sure don't want to have to load and segregate separate loads for three same chambered rifles of the same make.
They are True 700's though, and parts will interchange between them.
Post by: Hyde on December 23, 2010, 11:17:40 PM
Post by: DRobnsn on December 23, 2010, 11:40:19 PM
A friend of mine bought a 7mm rum in bdl and I bought one in the sps. Same barrel 26 inch, differences are trigger, stock obviously, and finish all the sps's I have seen are matte black. The stock on the sps sucks it sits tight against the barrel if you tried to float the barrel the stock would just crack, it can't hold without the support on the for end from the barrel.
I figured with the money I saved on the sps vs Bdl I could buy a good stock and trigger and have a more personalized M700 for about the same price.
By the way my friend and I use the same load/bullet combo and both guns perform very close in group size. Even with the crap stock on the sps.
I bought one of the "SPS" gun in 7mm08 and have been very pleased. Drawbacks are no drop magazine and does not have the "new" adjustable remington trigger. Advantages, about $250 cheaper. I've found the same as you, shoots just fine, yes stock feels cheap, but it's a workhorse gun and I've even developed a love for my old boat paddle stocked synthetic Ruger, so if I can love that stock, there's not much I can't love in a stock!
I'm not sure what you mean by drop magazine mine has a hinged drop plate just like the Bdl :dunno:
I installed a Timney trigger in mine set at 2.5 lbs its great. Only one problem, I want one in every gun I have now. :chuckle:
Post by: littletoes on December 24, 2010, 07:51:45 AM
Its the Chevy 350 of the rifle world.
Maybe its not the best out there, but it sure makes it a lot easier to design/build/add-to, whatever it takes to get the end product of what you want.
The SPS is a perfect buy, if you just don't see what you want in the "Rifle-World". Then as time goes, and money is available, build it to what YOU want.
I've a couple with detachable mag systems now that I just love. Excellent triggers, top of the line bases/rings, very good/the best stocks...sure, its taken me some time, but-what the hay? So does switching/trading rifles off and buying others, none being "exactly" what I truly want.
Does this "jibberish" make sense?
Good Luck guys!