Post by: hoosier85 on December 27, 2010, 12:38:00 PM
Hoosier
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 27, 2010, 12:53:28 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on December 27, 2010, 01:02:21 PM
Post by: MDGrand on December 27, 2010, 01:24:41 PM
Post by: lewy on December 27, 2010, 01:26:51 PM
Post by: rbros on December 27, 2010, 04:03:20 PM
Post by: Jamieb on December 27, 2010, 04:08:16 PM
I've shot with a guy that taped a piece of paper around a tall target turret and wrote hash marks with the yards, put another layer of clear tape over it, seemed to work well for him.
Most scopes wont get you from a 100yard or even a 200 yard zero to 1000 yards in one revaluation of a turret, that's why the huskemaw's are 1/3 moa clicks.
I've been running M-1's sense leupold first made them available and prefer them to all the others I've played with. M-1's and a confirmed drop chart taped to my stock has been working just fine for me and a lot of other folks.
Another big downside (at least in my opinion) to the huskema is like any other scope with a BDC turret, it's stuck on one rifle with one load and it wont work on any other rifle.
Post by: bearpaw on December 27, 2010, 04:12:21 PM
I bought a set of turrets a while back for one of my rifles but can't find them anymore now. Does anyone know where to get turrets?
I also have a small piece of paper taped to the stock of my rifle with holdover for yardages out to 600. Works great to have that.
Post by: Jamieb on December 27, 2010, 04:19:29 PM
Post by: bearpaw on December 27, 2010, 04:20:58 PM
Post by: Jamieb on December 27, 2010, 04:24:31 PM
On another board I post on a few guys said they dont have time to use turrets in a huntiing situation so I made this to show it doesnt take a lot of time and is pretty easy.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv376%2Felkhunter%2Fth_turretvideo.jpg&hash=93c9736768f30f6ae22ae13ad7b212803dbc42fa) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v376/elkhunter/?action=view¤t=turretvideo.mp4)
Post by: Jamieb on December 27, 2010, 04:28:18 PM
In full screen you can see the vapor trail.
Post by: MtnMuley on December 27, 2010, 04:28:46 PM
Personally I think the Huskemaw is a way over priced scope, ideal for a guy with a lot of money that's too lazy to put in the time and effort to shoot a drop chart.
I, along with several others, have put in twice the time on our Huskemaw scopes as we've ever put in any Leupold -- with far better success wen shooting many temperatures and elevations.
Another big downside (at least in my opinion) to the huskema is like any other scope with a BDC turret, it's stuck on one rifle with one load and it wont work on any other rifle.
Buy another $99 turret and put in on a different rifle. That's a lot cheaper than buying a new scope. :twocents: I believe you get two free now-a-days when you buy one also.
Post by: rbros on December 27, 2010, 04:30:38 PM
Post by: Jamieb on December 27, 2010, 04:36:43 PM
Didnt mean to offend anyone, just posted my opinion.
while I've used stoney points until I got around to sending in a scope to get real turrets installed, I'd never think of them as a permanent turret.
Post by: rbros on December 27, 2010, 04:36:59 PM
Personally I think the Huskemaw is a way over priced scope, ideal for a guy with a lot of money that's too lazy to put in the time and effort to shoot a drop chart.
I, along with several others, have put in twice the time on our Huskemaw scopes as we've ever put in any Leupold -- with far better success wen shooting many temperatures and elevations.
Another big downside (at least in my opinion) to the huskema is like any other scope with a BDC turret, it's stuck on one rifle with one load and it wont work on any other rifle.
Buy another $99 turret and put in on a different rifle. That's a lot cheaper than buying a new scope. :twocents: I believe you get two free now-a-days when you buy one also.
BDC's work well if you plan to stay at one elevation or a small range of elevations with a small temperature range window. If you hunt multiple states, chances are you will need several $99 turrets to adjust for the changing conditions. I prefer to use my pda and an MOA dial. This allows me to adjust for conditions where ever I am and make precise hits. To each his own, for my use I would have to buy alot more turrets for all the changing conditions we shoot in.
Post by: bearpaw on December 27, 2010, 04:44:07 PM
Post by: Jamieb on December 27, 2010, 05:06:43 PM
I just cant see where the huskemaw ican be that much better to justify spending that much more then I would on a leupold with turrets.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 27, 2010, 06:48:48 PM
i was only looking for a 550 -600 yard rifle though. and that is what i have.
Post by: high country on December 27, 2010, 07:08:35 PM
i had kenton industries make a turret for my burris fullfield scope. while talking to him he told me at practical ranges, out to 700 yards. that it will work right in the conditions specified, and to add a click or two in colder temp or lower elevation and take away a click or two in warmer or higher elevation. so far it seems right on with the shooting i have done. killed a bear at 490 and an elk at 430 this year.
i was only looking for a 550 -600 yard rifle though. and that is what i have.
I had mark build me a cam for my m3 back in the day. it worked to minute of deer out to at least 700yds on a .5 moa 300 RUM. nowdays I do like rbros and click for corrections.
Post by: MtnMuley on December 28, 2010, 08:03:35 AM
Post by: hoosier85 on December 28, 2010, 11:49:08 AM
No offense taken Jamieb. I just had to stick up for a scope I believe in, as it was getting beat up pretty bad. :) I'm not impressed with many things I hear about gunwerks and the huskemaw scope as a whole, but definately impressed with the scopes performance after putting in many hours of shooting. I acutally prefer to leave the moa turret on mine and make reference cards for different elevations and temps.
I have ok refrence cards from nikon on there site for my BDC scopes, but I bet others like myself would love to know where you could find this kind of info on elevation and temps to calculate and make there own refrence cards. I am very comfortable with my rifles but having full confidence is even better. :dunno:
Post by: Alan K on December 28, 2010, 12:07:47 PM
I ended up going with a Leupold VX-7 3.5-14x40. Absolutely love it! I also just started getting into reloading, and without being set on a round and hunting anywhere from 500-7000 ft elevation every year, I wanted a scope with MOA adjustments. I cringed at the thought of having to buy a new turret to be accurate with new loads or in different locations. I just print out a new chart for the area/weather/load I'll be using the rifle in, and it works like a charm!
Post by: Alan K on December 28, 2010, 12:11:37 PM
I bet others like myself would love to know where you could find this kind of info on elevation and temps to calculate and make there own refrence cards.
I use Google Earth to come up with an average elevation for the area I'll be hunting. As for temperature, I just look at the forecast as far out as I can before I leave for my hunt to decide on what temperature to enter into the program which makes my charts.
Post by: rbros on December 28, 2010, 03:08:17 PM
Post by: high country on December 28, 2010, 03:11:21 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on December 28, 2010, 03:27:45 PM
I would be more worried about learning how to read the breeze then being off .5moa on a 700 yard poke. ele will still be minute of deer lungs, but windage is what will get ya.
You're 100% correct. That's my main challenge in LR shooting -- if I take the shot or not.
hoosier, I use Huskemaws website for all of my technical needs. I've found another good ballistic info site to be: biggameinfo.com
Post by: rbros on December 28, 2010, 04:36:09 PM
Post by: Jamieb on December 28, 2010, 08:32:56 PM
I do most of my practice shooting in the wind but I still suck at judging the wind, in the mountains the wind is so vairiable across long range that it really makes it tough.
Post by: Jamieb on December 28, 2010, 08:37:57 PM
After a shot I review it on the video camera screen.
In the summer misses show up real well in dirt.
Post by: Jamieb on December 28, 2010, 09:06:50 PM
the POI change from a cold shot to a hot barrel shot went away.
I leaned some steel up on a dirt bank, the first shot I put high to see if the dirt would fly enough to spot misses.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv376%2Felkhunter%2Fth_shootingsteel.jpg&hash=884a06e36c746eab48525ca460639408ae82e0e4) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v376/elkhunter/?action=view¤t=shootingsteel.mp4)
Post by: gadwall on December 28, 2010, 10:07:43 PM
Wind as a bitch.
I do most of my practice shooting in the wind but I still suck at judging the wind, in the mountains the wind is so vairiable across long range that it really makes it tough.
Exactly.
I have the good fortune to shoot alot right here at my home out to 8-900 yds if I want. I have seen 5-10 mph changes in wind speed between the muzzle and the target some days.
Post by: buckhorn2 on December 28, 2010, 10:46:07 PM