Post by: Suncrest Sniper on January 02, 2011, 04:12:41 PM
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Post by: Hunterman on January 02, 2011, 04:47:18 PM
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Post by: Kain on January 02, 2011, 05:02:12 PM
I wonder how many people have had to shoot aggressive animals that didnt report it. The predator lover talk all the time about how attacks are rare. That might be because a lot of attacks are stopped before they even happen and lots dont get reported.
Post by: singleshot12 on January 02, 2011, 05:10:27 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 02, 2011, 05:14:29 PM
Post by: Suncrest Sniper on January 02, 2011, 05:20:27 PM
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 02, 2011, 05:32:58 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 02, 2011, 05:35:31 PM
Post by: Ridgeratt on January 02, 2011, 05:36:18 PM
My best guess is the hole should be in the center chest as opposed to a going away shot. :twocents:
Post by: bobcat on January 02, 2011, 05:46:10 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 02, 2011, 05:53:06 PM
Post by: Wazukie on January 02, 2011, 06:01:17 PM
Post by: Suncrest Sniper on January 02, 2011, 06:06:27 PM
1) Have a witness to the said attack
2) If you do have to implement a "kill" shot, Make sure it's at close range.
3) Make sure the said "Kill" shot is in the face or chest area and NOT the back or a "going away" shot
4) If snow is present let the said "Coug" stalk you for a couple of hundred yards to help prove it was stalking you.
5) Most important, make every possible attempt to scare the cat away!!
The up in the air question then at this time is to report said attack or just right it off...............
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Post by: Suncrest Sniper on January 02, 2011, 06:10:38 PM
The spring turkey hunt, Glenwood WA, a couple were out hunting. The male heard a sound coming from behind, turns and see's a cat, he in turn shoots said cat, the hole was about the size of a silver dollar. They called the WDFG and Klickitat County Sheriff and told their story. Justifiable self-defense. This happened this last spring near the Mill Pond for those familiar with the area.
Well see that is also another thing I worry about when coyote hunting. If a coug sneaks up on me from behind like that I can assure you either the AR's going off in a blaze or or my 9mm.
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 02, 2011, 06:15:58 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 02, 2011, 06:56:35 PM
Post by: Suncrest Sniper on January 02, 2011, 06:56:46 PM
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Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 02, 2011, 06:58:24 PM
Post by: Suncrest Sniper on January 02, 2011, 07:20:34 PM
Slim to none.
That's what I thought. They do go with quite often but if it's to hot or a rough sharp rocky area they stay home.
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Post by: Ridgeratt on January 02, 2011, 07:57:41 PM
Post by: Suncrest Sniper on January 02, 2011, 08:23:39 PM
or quit hiking in rail canyon!! :chuckle:
If your referring to the area by Scoop Mt. and Mc Millian Mt. (Tum Tum) we've been there several times. Always great hikes and not far from our place in Suncrest.
Post by: Ridgeratt on January 02, 2011, 08:40:30 PM
Post by: Suncrest Sniper on January 02, 2011, 08:47:24 PM
I was just guessing but it is also a wintering area and you will find cats in there! that is a travel corridor from the loon lake area and they follow the deer herds
Interesting.
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Post by: huntnnw on January 02, 2011, 09:04:57 PM
Post by: Hangfire on January 02, 2011, 11:15:05 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on January 03, 2011, 05:43:25 AM
The chance of a attack by cat, coyote or bear are very rare. Makes interesting discussion but not much more. If you are truly being attacked, rushing at you growling while advancing on you, etc. You haven't time to worry about what will happen defend you and yours. Leave it lay, call the sheriff or game warden. Be honest straight forward and I have never heard of a problem. You will get questioned about what happened. Being attacked is the first thing a person says who can't resist to shoot. A animal shot any where other than the front is going to raise suspicion. I would say one shot in the side better have been stalking your kid or animals. Never be afraid to be honest.
:yeah:
I totally agree with this post.
And I will add that if this is a real concern (scared of cougars) for you, maybe you should hike elsewhere.
Post by: Suncrest Sniper on January 03, 2011, 06:10:25 AM
The chance of a attack by cat, coyote or bear are very rare. Makes interesting discussion but not much more. If you are truly being attacked, rushing at you growling while advancing on you, etc. You haven't time to worry about what will happen defend you and yours. Leave it lay, call the sheriff or game warden. Be honest straight forward and I have never heard of a problem. You will get questioned about what happened. Being attacked is the first thing a person says who can't resist to shoot. A animal shot any where other than the front is going to raise suspicion. I would say one shot in the side better have been stalking your kid or animals. Never be afraid to be honest.
:yeah:
I totally agree with this post.
And I will add that if this is a real concern (scared of cougars) for you, maybe you should hike elsewhere.
I realize that the chances of it ever happening are slim to none, I just like to be ready for anything. As for being scared......that's not so my friend. If I was scared of them I wouldn't have ever moved out here in the first place and I would have never started hiking either. Give me a break man. This was never about being scared, just about the legalities of having to shoot one in the case of an attack. I've lived in rural areas all my life and the outdoors has always been just like another room for me, it's just a much better looking room out here in WA.
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Post by: rasbo on January 03, 2011, 06:47:27 AM
Post by: rock on January 03, 2011, 06:21:14 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 04, 2011, 10:25:16 PM
It can happen. But like others said, no law is going to stop me from defending myself or partner in the woods. Goes for a cat or bear if I'm huntin say.. Grouse. If a wild animal approaches a human without fear, then there's cause for alarm.
-Steve
Post by: Bob33 on January 04, 2011, 10:46:40 PM
Post by: Jburke on January 06, 2011, 02:33:29 AM
In my opinion, if you have to think very long about the legal consequences of an act like this, then it's probably not legally justifiable. If something is about to eat me or harm my children, I really don't care too much about what the law says at that point.:yeah:
And for me this goes for two legged and four legged. If I feel threatened at all you bet your ass my .45 will be in my hand. It's a judgement call on whether or not to shoot but most of the time your not going to have time to think about it, it's going to be a reaction kind of thing.
Post by: ICEMAN on January 06, 2011, 06:04:36 AM
Post by: bobcat on January 06, 2011, 07:41:59 AM
Post by: bearpaw on January 06, 2011, 08:26:31 AM
A couple days later, a mother and son were turkey hunting in a blind on the same property, the cougar actually rubbed the blind they were sitting in. Two days later the cat stalked to within 15 feet before the hunter sitting under a tree spotted the cat in the act of stalking. He shot at the cat coming toward him and twice at the cat running away. Next day his uncle was calling birds and the cat stalked him, he also shot 3 times. Everyone was so scared they all seem to have missed or at least didn't severely wound the cat, we found no blood.
I called the WDFW and tried to get permission to take the cat out with the hounds. They wouldn't allow it. They said a hunter could shoot if the cat was close and in the act of stalking. I'm still upset over that. We sort of backed off hunting for safety reasons and the cat did disappear. Don't know if he is still alive or if he was wounded and finally died. Hopefully the cat does not show up at any of the nearby neighbors when their kids are in the yard.
My point is that you are perfectly legal to protect yourself from a cat in the act of stalking you or attacking you. As others have said, don't shoot it unless it is head-on, they will inspect the scene. And the SSS isn't always going to work. Local wardens found a dead cougar recently and are looking right now for someone who may have been in the area and may have killed the cat. I know this because I and others known to frequent the area have been contacted for possible info. As someone else said, honesty is the best policy. :twocents: