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Title: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: Harold on January 10, 2011, 03:15:16 AM
This will be my first try at reloading, my gramps will be helping me but he hasnt reloaded in years and has lost his notes and doesnt remember what his loads were. can you guys give me some of the remedy's that have worked best for you guys? the .270 is my yote gun that i occasionally will take a black tail with. this year i will be (hopefully) using the 06 for bear and elk. i would like both guns to have best groupings at 200yds and capable of 350+. thanks for any and all info hope you all have a wonderful start to this new year!
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: 700xcr on January 10, 2011, 04:42:01 AM
Pick up a reloading manuals from Bullet or Powder Manufactures . Read them. Try out different grains of powder and start minimum charge weight and work up to see which load works best in your firearm. Each individual firearm is different. So what work best in somebody else gun will shoot terrible in yours. :twocents:
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: C-Money on January 10, 2011, 06:49:17 AM
Loading for the 30-06, grab a can of IMR-4350. I use Hornaday interlocks 150gr and they have worked well for me, deer or elk. I have a pet load using this combo, but grab a reloading manual and start working up! In the .270, Imr 4831 is awesome! I use reloader-19 and a 140 accubond in my .270 with great success on deer. It is what I use on elk now too, but yet to harvest a elk with the .270. You will never go back to store bought ammo once you Begin reloading!
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: bod on January 10, 2011, 08:23:20 AM
I posted my best 06 load on the 30-06 180 interlock thread.
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: Crisptrigr on January 10, 2011, 04:57:34 PM
Working up loads to find what your gun likes best is a process. There is no short changing (short cuts) that process. 700 gave some good advice. Buy a reloading manual from a good bullet company Sierra, Barnes, Nosler and etc and read. Also lots on-line to learn from. Hodgon's website is good.
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 10, 2011, 06:42:34 PM
Working up loads to find what your gun likes best is a process. There is no short changing (short cuts) that process. 700 gave some good advice. Buy a reloading manual from a good bullet company Sierra, Barnes, Nosler and etc and read. Also lots on-line to learn from. Hodgon's website is good.
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Notes of loads from 1955 might not be safe either, as some of the powders have changed chemically.  A load that shot well out of gramp's gun, may not do the same out of your gun.

Work your loads up to get the velocity and accuracy you desire.

My notes are 'IN' my books. When I change bullet, I go to the book and work up a load.

-Steve
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: GregMcFadden on January 11, 2011, 11:40:25 AM
you should also check out here

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp (http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp)

I've had good luck with H4350 and 168gr bergers but your milage will vary and your firearm will inevitably like a specific bullet seating position and powder load.  You just have to try and see.
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: BlackRidge on January 11, 2011, 12:18:37 PM
you should also check out here

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp (http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp)

I've had good luck with H4350 and 168gr bergers but your milage will vary and your firearm will inevitably like a specific bullet seating position and powder load.  You just have to try and see.

Great website, definitely check it out, but try not to use it and only it.  I like to look for 3 potential bullets that would work well, do some research online and find out what the maker recommends. Take their recommendation(s) then toy with it, find what your rifle loves and stick with that recipe.  Reloading books from Hornady, Speer, etc are great tools to get that base recipe going

I reload for both those calibers and have had great luck with IMR4831 and Barnes TSX rounds
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: LongRange300RUM on January 11, 2011, 01:09:22 PM
A reloaders most important piece of equiptment is a good reloading hand book. i recomend the hornady handbook of cartridge reloading i know they just came out with the 8th edition id pick it up.
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: Harold on January 11, 2011, 11:25:52 PM
sorry for the delayed replys, ive been rather busy lately. thanks for all the responses guys its really gonna help alot.
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: sisu on January 12, 2011, 05:00:57 AM
I have a couple of books but I really like the individual caliber pamphlets that are published and available for the re-loader. They seem of offer a larger variety of loading options with nearly all manufactures of powder, bullets, brass and primers.
I started buying these because I try to stay in a narrow but popular (easy to find on the ground if the *censored*e hit the fan kind of theory) caliber for all weapons. That way I can have a lot of ammo for very few calibers.

Don't get me wrong here a good reloading book is necessary but these little pamphlets are a world of knowledge for a person that wants to see what other companies offer with their powders, bullets etc. They are much cheaper than a manual for each bullet/powder company.
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: Jekemi on January 14, 2011, 08:15:12 AM
I reload .270. For deer I use 140 grain Sierra Game King Boat Tail. I use Winchester brass and CCI primers. I use IMR 4350. I've been loading 48 grains of 4350 and getting consistently tight groups at 100 yards from a Weatherby Vanguard 270. IMR 4350 is a great rifle reloading powder. I've also used Alliant R-19 but haven't shot any of it yet. My only issue with each of these powders is that the powder grain is cylindrical. Most powder measures will cut this type of powder so I hand measure each load on a digital scale and use a funnel to pour the powder in each brass cartridge. This is very consistent, just not very fast.
For Elk loads I using the Sierra Game King Boat Tail 150 grain bullet with the same powder and the same powder loads. Once again, very tight groups at 100 yards.
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: Harold on January 21, 2011, 09:52:07 PM
thanks for all the help guys im pretty excited to start getting into reloading, should be a good passtime for a guy with a broken leg i think! :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: bobcat on January 21, 2011, 10:32:54 PM
I like Hodgdon powders, and for my 270 I use H4831 and for my 30-06 I use H4350. I could pick just one of those powders and use in both, but the 30-06 really is better off with a faster burning powder than the 270. And the nice thing about Hodgdon powder, at least the H4350 and H4831, is that it is temperature insensitive. Which means it will give similar velocities whether you are hunting in -20 below zero or 85 degree temperatures.
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 21, 2011, 11:05:46 PM
I like H4831 or H4831sc for all my cals 25 and bigger. It has been a great powder for me.
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: gadwall on January 23, 2011, 08:43:07 PM
I like H4831 or H4831sc for all my cals 25 and bigger. It has been a great powder for me.

I have had the best luck with H4831 as well.  The accubond bullet is a great place to start.  I like 165's in the 06 and 140's in the 270.  As many on here have said, get yourself some up to date references and manuals and be patient with the process.  Good luck, and let's see some targets when you get the accuracy you're looking for.

Gadwall
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: Harold on January 24, 2011, 12:04:14 AM
ive finally decided on that my first "batch" will consist of. ill be using Nosler Hunting Ballistic Tipped 130 Grain bullets and 54.5 Grains of H4831. going to pick up some primers sometime this week, continue reading up and getting to know all the equipment and hopefully start this up comming weekend! thanks for all the help guys, the "one book/one caliber" pamphlet was really helpful. i plan on getting the newest of the nosler and hornady books as my grandfaters are a bit outdated. again thanks and happy shooting! :hello:
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 24, 2011, 11:52:07 AM
Quote
ill be using Nosler Hunting Ballistic Tipped 130 Grain bullets and 54.5 Grains of H4831.

What rifle and how many rounds down the barrel?
  I'm assuming that you've chosen the 270 to reload first?

-Steve
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: lokidog on January 24, 2011, 12:04:25 PM
For the -06 I use H4350 and 165's,  Four guns have loved this combo with the same grains of powder, I think my load is almost a compressed load.  I have not shot the longer no lead bullets, I have used ballistic tips, sierras, and 168 hp.
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: Curly on January 24, 2011, 12:29:32 PM
I have a couple of books but I really like the individual caliber pamphlets that are published and available for the re-loader. They seem of offer a larger variety of loading options with nearly all manufactures of powder, bullets, brass and primers.
I started buying these because I try to stay in a narrow but popular (easy to find on the ground if the *censored*e hit the fan kind of theory) caliber for all weapons. That way I can have a lot of ammo for very few calibers.

Don't get me wrong here a good reloading book is necessary but these little pamphlets are a world of knowledge for a person that wants to see what other companies offer with their powders, bullets etc. They are much cheaper than a manual for each bullet/powder company.

Exactly the same as what I do.  The books are called something like "One Book / One Caliber" and they are great IMO.  They have info from several different sources for that particular cartridge that you're reloading for.  You don't have to buy a bunch of the large manuals.........I'd say one like the Speer Manual and then one Load book for each cartridge is a good way of getting a ton of info.
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: Harold on January 24, 2011, 12:49:13 PM
Sorry forgot to say that load will be for the .270 and it will be shot out of a howa 1500 that has 750 or so rounds down the pipe so far.
Title: Re: Reloading 30-06 and .270
Post by: elkslayer069 on January 24, 2011, 01:05:16 PM
I shoot 150 bergers with 56 grns of Hodgens 4831
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