Post by: bearpaw on January 12, 2011, 01:02:24 PM
An outfitter friend took the photo on winter range in the selway. He said he was seeing two cow elk each day where he was cougar hunting, this is one of them. They find 50-60 wolf kills a season, it's no wonder the herds are disappearing.
The killing continues in Idaho and will soon spread across the United States as wolf groups attempt to force wolf recovery across the United States using the courts. This is coming to a neighborhood near you soon.
Post by: mulehunter on January 12, 2011, 01:07:49 PM
Mulehunter >:(
Post by: rock on January 12, 2011, 04:05:29 PM
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Post by: bearpaw on January 12, 2011, 04:21:19 PM
Looks like they took the organs and ran.
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: villageidiot on January 13, 2011, 06:46:42 AM
Post by: BlackRidge on January 13, 2011, 07:13:47 AM
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Post by: wolfbait on January 13, 2011, 07:15:53 AM
The animal rights groups file lawsuits against any slaughter house that mistreats in any way animals that are being slaughtered, yet these animals the wolves kill are tortured to death and take sometimes a day to die with their guts hanging out watching the wolves eat them. At least a cougar kills it's prey first, then eats it. Wolves don't kill, they torture to death. SICK, SICK , SICK SICK, SICK. How could any human on earth justify this type of killing even under the umbrella of NATURAL? >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :bash: :bash: :bash:
The people you are talking about Villageidiot are called the wolf cult, they are mostly anti human, anti hunting and the list goes on, they are very sick people. The lies that the environmentalists, state game agencies and the feds have fed the American public for many years has brain washed many. The mainstream media will not touch the wolf issue, Scott's documentary is going to change that, I think there will be some changes coming our way in that department, and when wolves start killing more people the media will jump all over it, they like juicy story's.
Post by: wolfbait on January 13, 2011, 07:28:00 AM
As a hunter, conservationist and supporter of wolf reintroduction I take issue with the extreme position of most environmental groups on this matter. By just about every scientific metric, wolves are recovered in the northern Rocky Mountains. For several years now we've had a wolf population that is many times greater (1,700+ at last count) than what was initially decided by the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service, with input from environmental groups, to be necessary to sustain a recovered wolf population....i.e. 300 wolves throughout Montana, Idaho and Wyoming. However, several environmental groups now argue that this minimum population is not large enough and they ignore the real problems that come with high wolf populations.
After listening to the arguments and media outpourings from several of these environmental groups (Defenders of Wildlife, Environmental Defense Fund, Natural Resource Defense Council and the Greater Yellowstone Coalition), I've come to believe that many of their arguments are disingenuous and primarily put forth to placate the majority of their city-based members who have never lived in the West or a rural setting with wolves in their backyard. While good-intentioned, many idealistically believe that wolves are just friendly cousins of the family dog and they don't understand or accept that we now live in a human-altered environment that requires responsible management of wildlife.
Cases in point. In the early days of wolf reintroduction, Defenders of Wildlife offered to pay ranchers for livestock losses due to wolves as a way of easing the burden of wolves in our environment and greasing the wheels for reintroduction. Now that wolves are here to stay, they've recently dropped this program and expect the federal government (taxpayers) to pick up the bill. The NRDC claims that wolves were recently put back on the endangered species list by a federal judge because their "recovery is still in doubt."
However, the facts of this recent case show that Judge Molloy was simply making a "letter of the law" interpretation of a small clause in the Endangered Species Act that says an endangered species can't be managed along state lines. Molloy is the same judge who last year ruled that it was okay to proceed with the first wolf hunting seasons in Montana and Idaho. The EDF usually avoids science and expert testimony altogether and simply chooses to appeal to our emotional side by using the example of "Limpy," an injured wolf that endured until he left the confines of YNP and was killed during last year's wolf hunting season.
More recently, the director of the Greater Yellowstone Coalition, an organization that I'm a member of and have regularly contributed to, claimed that wolves are akin to migratory waterfowl and ocean-run fish and should be managed similarly...i.e. federal government control with states following their directives. Whereas many waterfowl and fish species travel great distances in short periods of time, often crossing many state and even international borders and may need such management, wolves are land bound and relatively territorial like most predator and prey species that have historically been managed by the states they inhabit. Failing sound reasoning, the only motive I can find behind this argument is a desire to centralize and politicize wolf management to the distant political arena of Washington where they have a better chance of pushing their agenda. Environmental groups don't want state management of wolf populations because they know the outcome will be wolf populations managed to more tolerable levels.
Currently, nearly every major elected official in Montana, Idaho and Wyoming (governors, senators, representatives) is working to regain control of wolf management within their boundaries so that wolf populations can be managed at levels acceptable to the majority of their residents. Many environmental groups with their largely distant and urban-based memberships are working to secure high wolf populations regardless of the consequences to the people who actually live with and suffer the consequences of such populations.
Denver Bryan is a wildlife biologist and photographer whose images have appeared in National Geographic, Smithsonian, National Wildlife, Field & Stream, and Outdoor Life, among others. He lives in Bozeman.
http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/opinions/guest_columnists/article_2dc1d0fa-0ebe-11e0-a87a-001cc4c002e0.html (http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/opinions/guest_columnists/article_2dc1d0fa-0ebe-11e0-a87a-001cc4c002e0.html)
Post by: RidgeRunner_07 on January 13, 2011, 09:59:22 AM
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Post by: bearpaw on January 13, 2011, 04:34:38 PM
They managed to get wolves introduced.
It was agreed to allow 100 in 3 areas. 300 wolves total.
Now they have stopped management numerous times and have forced likely 3000+ wolves onto the three states.
Now they are trying to use the courts to force wolf recovery across the US.
Wait till wolves start destroying deer herds in states with a million hunters.
Then there will be an uprising against wolves.
In the end, the greed to get as many wolves as possible will cause an uprising large enough to turn this whole thing around. :twocents:
Post by: blacktailer on January 13, 2011, 06:03:43 PM
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Post by: bearpaw on January 13, 2011, 09:23:21 PM
Click on the slide show at the top of the page....
Post by: mebco09 on January 13, 2011, 09:32:40 PM
People in Idaho seem to find a way to control these problems on their own.
Butch Otter also showed some stones when he told the feds to pound sand when it came to enforcement of the federal edict to protect the wolves.
Post by: Shed Stud on January 14, 2011, 07:37:58 AM
Post by: bankwalker on January 14, 2011, 03:05:52 PM
i may never see one in my life...........but when i do im shooting.
Post by: Tony on January 14, 2011, 03:20:00 PM
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