Post by: halfpipe88 on January 13, 2011, 07:25:01 AM
Post by: CP on January 13, 2011, 07:46:14 AM
Post by: singleshot12 on January 13, 2011, 07:49:44 AM
Post by: halfpipe88 on January 13, 2011, 07:57:52 AM
Post by: jackelope on January 13, 2011, 07:58:38 AM
May need a few more dollars.
Post by: CP on January 13, 2011, 08:01:11 AM
Post by: bobcat on January 13, 2011, 08:01:55 AM
Here is one that I found:
http://buy.auctionarms.com/10125569/beretta-pietro-s686-onyx-silver-essential-12-ga-pristine (http://buy.auctionarms.com/10125569/beretta-pietro-s686-onyx-silver-essential-12-ga-pristine)
I have one and it's a good, solid gun, just not as pretty as most of the other 686's.
Post by: halfpipe88 on January 13, 2011, 08:12:16 AM
A buddy of mine pushed me toward a Stevens 512 goldwing. Looks very nice with good reviews...heard anything?
Post by: Wacenturion on January 13, 2011, 08:37:14 AM
In fact Browning uses Miroku today...quality workmanship.
Post by: Andrew on January 13, 2011, 08:39:22 AM
I had problems with the Stoeger on day one...flushed a pheasant...first round fired (missed)...second nothing. Sent the gun to Benelli to fix and got it back at the end of the season just in time for the duck closer. First shot got a double with one shell. Ever since it has fired without a hitch. I bought it cause my limit was much lower than 800, and I wanted to use it for chukar, and figured I'd beat the crap out of it since all I do is hunt...not a shooter, and didn't need anything fancy. I do wish that it had screw in chokes. I can live without the selective barrel and actually find that not having extractors is nice since I reload my hulls.
Post by: 270Shooter on January 13, 2011, 08:44:43 AM
Post by: halfpipe88 on January 13, 2011, 08:50:43 AM
Post by: 10Key on January 13, 2011, 11:00:02 AM
Also determine if it will be strictly a upland gun or versatile gun that you will waterfowl with. If it is strictly an upland gun, I would recommend a 16 or 20. I ended up with a 20 due to availability of shells, especially steel as many places are going steel only. You will love the weight of a nice 16 or 20 O/U, I have yet to end a day in the field in which I dreaded carrying my 686 20 gauge.
Post by: KimberRich on January 13, 2011, 11:08:42 AM
Going to go up in value over time if you take care of it where your Charles Daly, CZ, or comparable cheaper gun will only decline in value.
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 13, 2011, 11:15:27 AM
Post by: CP on January 13, 2011, 11:21:14 AM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 13, 2011, 11:23:31 AM
Post by: nwwanderer on January 13, 2011, 11:37:38 AM
Post by: wildweeds on January 13, 2011, 12:16:45 PM
Post by: Emptyhanded on January 13, 2011, 12:28:40 PM
Post by: 03dynasty on January 13, 2011, 12:57:33 PM
Post by: Ellensburg on January 13, 2011, 04:02:35 PM
Post by: thinkingman on January 14, 2011, 11:45:21 AM
Check out the weatherby (SKB) or the various lanber models on www.cdnninvestments.com (http://www.cdnninvestments.com).I agree...other than the 'B' guns, this is where I'd look.
Post by: halfpipe88 on January 17, 2011, 12:55:35 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 17, 2011, 01:10:43 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 17, 2011, 02:57:44 PM
There's a 685 Beretta in the classifieds posted yesterdday I think for $850.00
That's a good gun. Probably should be "686" though. If I was in the market for an over/under that's what I'd get.
Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 17, 2011, 02:59:36 PM
I know 686 and 687.. :dunno:
Post by: jackelope on January 17, 2011, 04:53:12 PM
Whats a 685?
I know 686 and 687.. :dunno:
685 is 1 less than a 686 and 2 less than a 687.
:)
I have no idea...I just read what it said in the ad.
Post by: ribka on January 17, 2011, 06:23:09 PM
SKB, some older Citori's and Winchester 101. The 101 is a heck of shotgun for the $
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 17, 2011, 08:12:13 PM
Post by: Ellensburg on January 18, 2011, 08:12:12 AM
Got a Franchi Renaissance, Ruger Red Label and a Browning Citori. Like them all for different reasons. If you shop around you should be able to find one of these used in the 800 range. I've never had a CZ but was looking one up and down pretty hard. I haven't read great things about the Turkish guns but sounds like a few people here like them. Loved the 16 sxs I was looking at. Should have grabbed it.
The 685 in the classifieds is a 685. Looked them up on gunbroker. Thought about grabbing that one myself.
I was lookin hard at that franchi. Light and beautiful isn't it?
Post by: MP123 on January 18, 2011, 09:58:02 AM
They make several different recoil pads for it so you can dial in the LOP you like best. I switched to the longest one and the gun fits me very well now. I have the field grade version which is kinda plain but I don't worry much much about it getting banged up.
That Cynergy is pretty nice too, I considered it at the time I got the Rennaissance. O/U is a fun change from semi-auto if you're used to that, I don't really miss having that third shot (too often) :chuckle:
Post by: wildweeds on January 19, 2011, 12:05:15 AM
Post by: jetjockey on January 19, 2011, 07:40:23 AM
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=211866432 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=211866432)
I would look very hard at the Miroku's. Miroku has made guns for Browning, Charles Daily, and also for themselves. They are very well built shotguns and IMO they are much better quality then the CZ's, Red Labels, and the other lower priced double guns. A cheap double is kind of a like a cheap call girl, there's a reason they are cheap. ;) O/U's and SXS's are not ment to be cheap guns. They cost a lot to build correctly. However, there are some O/U's that are mechanically very good, yet will not break the bank. You won't get beautiful wood or fancy engraving, but you will get a gun that balances well and is mechanically a very good gun. Miroku's fit this market very well. They aren't fancy, but they are very nice guns. Im kind of a shotgun nut, and appreciate a very nice double. Im fortunate enough to have a few friends and a father in law who have the money to purchase really, really expensive shotguns, so Ive been able to shoot and hold RBL's, Beretta's (really expensive Beretta's), Cesear Guerinis, AYA's, Brownings, Parkers, and my Father in Law has a $13,000 Conneticut Shotgun Manufacturing A-10 on order.. I hunt with a Beretta 686 90% of the time. With that said, my wifes uncle has a Miroku 12 guage and it is a very nice gun. A little heavy, but it balances well and handles well. Miroku's give you Browning/Beretta quality in a less expensive gun. If I was in the market for an inexpensive O/U 12 guage, I would jump on the one I posted above for $650. YOu can see other Miroku's here.http://www.ebang.com/prgs/gbc4_metacatalog_displaycategory.cgi?action=search&searchphrase=miroku (http://www.ebang.com/prgs/gbc4_metacatalog_displaycategory.cgi?action=search&searchphrase=miroku)
Post by: bobcat on January 19, 2011, 07:45:11 AM
Post by: jetjockey on January 19, 2011, 08:00:24 AM
http://www.gunsamerica.com/948454451/Guns-For-Sale/Gun-Auctions/Shotguns/Charles-Daly-Shotguns/Over-Under/130N_CHARLES_DALY_MIROKU_12GA_26_IC_MOD.htm# (http://www.gunsamerica.com/948454451/Guns-For-Sale/Gun-Auctions/Shotguns/Charles-Daly-Shotguns/Over-Under/130N_CHARLES_DALY_MIROKU_12GA_26_IC_MOD.htm#)
Heres one for $600. It wouldn't cost much to have the bores opened a little if you wanted either. Its going to be very, very tough to find a decent O/U with choke tubes for under $800.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=212236266 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=212236266)
Post by: Ellensburg on January 19, 2011, 10:14:50 AM
I'm old school I guess.................I'd rather knock the cobwebs off the old 870 than tote a cynergy.......................hideous looking IMO
The gun in my signature is a cynergy classic. Classics look different than the other cynergys.
Post by: CP on January 19, 2011, 10:20:14 AM
http://www.wcwinc.org/classifieds/shotguns.html (http://www.wcwinc.org/classifieds/shotguns.html)
Hurry, before I buy it.
Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 19, 2011, 10:26:56 AM
Post by: wildweeds on January 22, 2011, 11:50:38 PM
mod/ full is the best for fixed choked barrels for upland
Post by: 2dognight on January 23, 2011, 04:56:41 PM
I have a mossberg and have never had a problem
Me too :chuckle:
Post by: bobcat on January 23, 2011, 07:06:32 PM
Post by: KimberRich on February 01, 2011, 03:33:16 PM
mod/ full is the best for fixed choked barrels for upland
x2
I usually get excited and miss with the first shot and hit them with the second one. If you practice and you're a good shot the choke shouldn't matter. Shot plenty of quail with my fixed Full choke 1100. Had to pick more shot out of them but it got the job done.
Post by: bobcat on February 01, 2011, 03:38:57 PM
Shot plenty of quail with my fixed Full choke 1100.
:yike: :bdid:
Post by: KimberRich on February 01, 2011, 03:54:17 PM
Shot plenty of quail with my fixed Full choke 1100.
:yike: :bdid:
What's bad about it?? If you can hit a wild quail with a full choke you can hit pretty much anything else. Might have a couple extra pellets to pick out though. Makes shooting slow, fat roosters a piece of cake. I trap shoot with a full choke also. I don't get perfect scores but it forces you to be a better shot. It's helped me in the field big time.
Post by: bobcat on February 01, 2011, 04:05:09 PM
But, maybe where you hunt you're shooting them at 50 yards. I guess anything's possible. :dunno:
Post by: sakoshooter on February 26, 2011, 03:46:47 PM