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Title: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: Alchase on April 27, 2008, 11:23:59 AM
I was curious after seeing the pics of that monster 451 bull, what kind of money do the "really big" bulls make for their owners? These bulls get world wide notoriety and are shown at most of the big shows around the states. They guy that buys the governors tag every year obviously is not interested making money off his bulls. Just my guess judging by the amount of money he pays to hunt big bulls. If some every day guy hooked up with a bull like that how would it improve or effect his life?
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: boneaddict on April 27, 2008, 11:35:36 AM
It wouldn't effect mine at all.  It might get a place in the house versus the garage. but....I know what you are saying though.
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: wastickslinger on April 27, 2008, 12:35:15 PM
It would affect my life. I would lose 10 minutes from every day for the rest of my life. There would be no way to walk by it in my house without stopping and staring. This equates out to about 3000 hours lost over the next 50 years. So to answer the question improve or affect. It wouls be affect for me.  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: Alchase on April 27, 2008, 12:58:04 PM
Wastickslinger, So true, LOL
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: archery288 on April 27, 2008, 05:48:26 PM
haha very well put wastick!!  :chuckle:  I am not sure what it would really get some people?? A lot of recognition, and maybe a chance at some other hunts and what not with people around the world?? Or a chance within a magazine?? I think in most cases it's all about who ya know! 
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: Red Dawg on April 27, 2008, 06:15:06 PM
ya know it is funny that you bring this topic up. The real question for me is how does a guy show full respect for an animal of this caliber. This would have to be one of the largest bulls in the world. Do you show it off to the world or do you keep it in your house all to yourself. I am more partial to keeping it for myself, but a person can make a ton of money renting the antlers to various hunting organizations. I dont have a problem with a person trying to make some money with the resources he has but has this part of the industry gone to far.
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: Cougeyes on April 27, 2008, 10:44:18 PM
It wouldn't affect my life because I would never put anything up on my wall that I shot in a "high fence" hunt.  I dont consider those "hunts" as hunts, but rather as "killing" or shooting fish in a barrel.  Yeah you can argue if the 10,000 acre ranch is all fenced in then there is a lot of ground to cover etc.....  I dont know the whole story about this 451 bull, from what i thought i understood in the past it does go on a lot of private land that doesn't seem to be fenced and also a lot of public land, if that were the case then I would deffinetly put that elk on my wall, but no way would I ever feel satisfied knowing that I killed an animal in a "pen"!
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: wastickslinger on April 27, 2008, 11:12:44 PM
I am pretty sure he is not a high fence bull. I didn't even know we had high fence in this state, do we?
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: Elknut1 on April 28, 2008, 04:50:09 AM

  Not sure of that particular bull, but here in ID we have a fenced hunt available to certain folks! Ones with money!! (grin) They have several 400 class bulls that are in the 15,000 dollar price range. Wish I had a doz of those!! (grin)

  ElkNut1
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: boneaddict on April 28, 2008, 06:05:26 AM
Good point wastickslinger, maybe that why I am so behind at my house. 

This IS NOT a high fenced bull.
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: Elknut1 on April 28, 2008, 06:25:31 AM

  Guess I should try to keep up! (grin)

  ElkNut1
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: Alchase on April 28, 2008, 11:46:21 AM
OK, here is one more to ponder. Lets say you found the sheds in that pic. Do you mount them on a base and call it good? Or would you spend the cash to get them mounted on a "replacement head?
I would mount them on a base. I would have a hard time ethically using a replacement head, but  that is just me.

I ask this because a few years ago there was a bull called the General (I can't remember which state) he was a state record I believe. They were selling "replicas" of his antlers for pretty high dollars. I could not believe that people would by a replica of someone else's bull let alone have them mounted!
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: Cougeyes on April 28, 2008, 11:51:26 AM
Do you mount them on a base and call it good? Or would you spend the cash to get them mounted on a "replacement head?

I would mount them on a base and call it good.  That is what i'm doing with a set of sheds I found last year.  I couldn't stare at a shoulder mount on the wall of an animal that big knowing 1) i didn't kill the animal and 2) knowing that cape didn't belong to the animal.  My own personal preferences though. 
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: boneaddict on April 28, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
A set that big, I wouldn't mount at all, I would have it so I could fondle and carry and hand to folks to appreciate. 
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: Alchase on April 29, 2008, 12:16:11 PM
I would have it so I could fondle and carry and hand to folks to appreciate. 

Dang Bone TMI. You make it sound like a sexual experience? If I shot a bull that big I guarantee it would be, LOL
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: boneaddict on April 29, 2008, 12:50:13 PM
 :bdid: for what I was about to say.... :)
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: NRA4LIFE on April 29, 2008, 01:18:58 PM
At 451, that would break the current world record listed at B&C.  That head would be worth a lot of money.  You could probably make a heck of a good living just showing it off.
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: archery288 on April 29, 2008, 08:57:09 PM
At 451, that would break the current world record listed at B&C.  That head would be worth a lot of money.  You could probably make a heck of a good living just showing it off.

that you could!! but, I would want to see it hangin on my wall everyday not only a week or so out of the year as it passed by the local sportsmans show!!
Title: Re: Big Bulls and comercialism
Post by: Bookworm on April 29, 2008, 10:27:29 PM
I know that our fine state used to have at least one high fence ranch over on the dry side. I don't know if it is still in business. They had hogs and some deer I believe.
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