Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: Elknut1 on January 23, 2011, 09:11:49 AM
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OK guys & gals this one has 25 questions & answers this time, it did so well before with the 10 that we upped it this time! Over 1000 participated in the last one so I thought what the heck let's do another!
Tell us how you rated & don't be shy!!!! (grin) http://www.elknut.com/ElknutChallenge.html
Thanks/ElkNut1
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20 out of 25. Herd bull status!
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19/25 Satelite bull. Thanks for the opportunity to try this out! :tup:
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19 out of the 25. Satelite bull
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19 out of 25 i do not agree with question 19
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Sattelite bull. Probably a rag horn though. :chuckle:
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Thanks guys!!
Gone huntin---Number 19 is one of those misunderstood sound by many elk hunters today! That's why it's in the mix there! (grin) A Warning Bark is much higher pitched & is determined by the elk giving it as to its frequency in warning others! The Nervous/Popping Grunt is not a warning & in most cases elk just won't leave! As the answer states thay want a satisfying visual or response as they are nervous in what they've partially seen or heard!
A Warning Bark is given & they are gone!!!
ElkNut1
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16 and 9. :dunno:
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It just shows you have room for improvement! (grin)
Gone Huntin, here's a bit more of an explanation, I was short on time on the 1st one! Thanks!
Number 19 is one of those misunderstood sounds by many elk hunters today! That's why it's in the mix there! (grin) A Warning Bark is much higher pitched & is determined by the elk giving it as to its frequency in warning others, when this is given it's game over! The Nervous/Popping Grunt is not a warning & in most cases elk just won't leave instead they hang around & will continue using this sound! As the answer states they want a satisfying visual or response as they are nervous in what they've partially seen or heard! When the nervous grunt is heard those elk giving it bulls or cows are still very workable/callable as long as you are not winded or seen!-----Notice the video clip where the bull starts with this nervous grunt & then his short scream, this is the same nervous grunt just from a different elk & he is not running off, why? Because it's not a warning, it's a come on over this way sound!
This doesn't mean once an elk gives a nervous grunt and all of a sudden you are busted visually or by scent, and now it can turn into a warning bark & off he or she goes, that's the difference between the 2. In addition to this we use this nervous grunt in our hunts on a regular basis, we've taken near 25 bulls with the use of this one sound, how? By stopping or turning elk around that are leaving or coming by the shooter to the caller. If it was a warning bark these elk would blow out of there but we use the nervous grunt & it anchors them to the spot for the shot! Why, because it asks them something! It's much more effective than a cow mew! Hope this helps!
ElkNut1
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thanx for the tips you sound like you know what you are talkin about and i need to learn that call
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Hey 68, You may need to work on a few elk calls but you sure have the bear calling down. ;)
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Herd Bull.
I took the first challenge about a week ago which prompted me to purchase the Sounds of the Elk CD. It is a great CD and I know will improve my calling and knowledge 10 fold. I drive about 30hrs a week so I plan on having this in my rig along with my mouth reed and practicing many hours this summer.
Elknut,
As I stated above the CD is a great compilation of elk sounds and obviously there has been a lot of sweat and hard work done to capture these sounds in their natural state. The quality is great as well. Well done overall.
I purchased the Playbook last year and after reading through it a dozen times or so I was eager to hear the sounds. I was hoping to the CD would have some explanation of when,why, what to do to react type stuff along with the audio sounds of the elk. I realize that most, if not all this info is covered in the playbook but IMO it would be nice to have all of the info and audio in one place.
Again, I am not dissapointed rather I am impressed and would recommend both the CD and the Playbook. Do you guys have any plans in putting the info and the sounds on a CD?
Thanks again
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Sattelite bull. Probably a rag horn though. :chuckle:
:yeah:
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hey 100 how many elk did i call in this year?
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Got two wrong...the first one :bash: and the one where the bull is calling to other elk. The first time I played it I pegged it as a warning...wrong :bash: on the second listen I could here the difference in tone... Oh well, you taught me well Obi-Wan :)
This is good stuff....would be great just to have these every so often on your site. Really helps to take off the edge and check your skills during the off season ;D
Thanks for the fun Paul!!!
Regards,
Fulla
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23/25 I found two answers that you had wrong ElkNut....... ;)
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Holy chit... I went from 10 for 10 in elknut challenge I to 19 out of 25 in challenge II. I went from worse than wolves to a measley satelite bull in a week :'(.
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20 out of 25. Herd bull status!
:yeah: i did better than i thought :IBCOOL:
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22/25 Herd Bull, that nervouse grunt got me. I was leaning that way but went with a bark. I have all of elknuts videos and CD's and listen to them regularly. Even my kids are getting good with the sounds riding around in the truck with me. Only about 8 months till season :)
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23/25 I found two answers that you had wrong ElkNut....... ;)
Same here. 23 out of 25. We must have missed the same ones and Paul really is wrong... :chuckle: :chuckle: Thanks! That was a fun few minutes.
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You guys are dang good on this Site!!! I would venture a guess & say you have the highest scores on average compared to a few other Sites this Challenge is on! I'll be getting 25 more up & see how you do with them! (grin) It's cheap entertainment! (grin) Thanks for participating!!!
AKbowman, You're right, the Playbook covers all answers & thoughts about the elk sounds heard on the CD. We did it this way because we took a Poll before it ever came out & the overwhelming response was have "Sounds Only" of course all sounds are identified as you know on the CD. That CD would be hours long if I added all additional info of when, where & how in their individual use for ones best odds per encounter with these various sounds! By listening to the sounds & becoming familiar with them & reading how they apply, now you're learning something by exercising that effort, it will pay off in the long-run! The reason being is you can take the PlayBook into the field with you but not a CD Player! Thank You for your thoughts Sir & good luck to you!
ElkNut1
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21-herd bull
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You guys are dang good on this Site!!! I would venture a guess & say you have the highest scores on average compared to a few other Sites this Challenge is on! I'll be getting 25 more up & see how you do with them! (grin) It's cheap entertainment! (grin) Thanks for participating!!!
AKbowman, You're right, the Playbook covers all answers & thoughts about the elk sounds heard on the CD. We did it this way because we took a Poll before it ever came out & the overwhelming response was have "Sounds Only" of course all sounds are identified as you know on the CD. That CD would be hours long if I added all additional info of when, where & how in their individual use for ones best odds per encounter with these various sounds! By listening to the sounds & becoming familiar with them & reading how they apply, now you're learning something by exercising that effort, it will pay off in the long-run! The reason being is you can take the PlayBook into the field with you but not a CD Player! Thank You for your thoughts Sir & good luck to you!
ElkNut1
That makes sense, thanks for the explanation ElkNut. I guess it would be really long all on one CD. Listened to it and practiced along in my car today on the way over to the east side. Its great, Ill have to dig the playbook out now and study up.
Again I would recommend this to anyone who wants to get better at calling in elk no matter what your level. Best $20 bucks ive spent in a while
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I was lucky and got 17 of 25 to rank as a Satelite Bull. Not bad for one who has never hunted for elk. :IBCOOL:
Very cool quiz, thanks for sharing.
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21 out of 25. fun quiz
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didnt start good got the first one wrong but ended up getting 20 out of 25 80% herdbull. bet i could do better the second time though :)
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Herd bull 21-25! cool!!
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22 out of 25.. i found some of the answers to be wrong. like bulls 1 month before bugling season. i have found bull by them selves this time of the year. more maybe small immature bull will be together but big ol grand dads are off buy them selves.
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20 of 25
Good stuff
Thanks
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I don't agree with this question "you should never have your mind made up before going into the woods as to what you are going to shoot that day" but I think that is an opinion not a correct or not correct answer.
I got 1 wrong because I miss read question 21. I read it as"you can generally find elk in their BEDDING grounds but the question is "you can generally find elk in their breeding grounds :chuckle:
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Funkster, Great Score dude!!! One of the top ones! As for your question on "Having Ones Mind Made Up" it is in general terms like any elk situation that may come up!
On Goals Set for each individual hunter, well, that's a personal decision! We bring it up because there are many hunters who do not even consider the fact that they do not know what they are willing to take that day! This is to be considered on a daily basis not a decision on the beginning of the hunting season only! If a guy is willing to take a cow, great, he knows it & will not hesitate if the occasion arises, this doesn't mean he will not take a branched antlered bull but that he will not pass a cow if given the chance either!
In your case you may want to consider the "clientele" before deciding on a particular elk, the unit hunted may have something to do with decision making & that's cool, at least you've discussed that with yourself "so to speak" you may change your mind as you near the last day of your hunt too. So you see it's nothing written in stone, it's the fact that a guy or gal that knows where they stand on a given day for a particular animal will not hesitate when their golden opportunity presents itself! He who hesitates loses!! We take many hunters out each year & we've found it's a good idea to discuss this with them so we all know where they stand that day! Ones mind can be changed at anytime & usually does! (grin) We presented the Question so ones would at least give it consideration on their own individual hunts! Hope this makes sense & thank you for bringing it up!
Wagon Burner--Here's the exact Question as written on the test you question? (grin) -- "A Month Or So Before The Season Opens The Majority Of The Bulls Will Be?" After this question a multiple choice is given. The Answer is----- "In Bachelor Groups But It's Possible A Few Will Slip Towards The Cows!
Notice both question & answer, neither is concrete! The question says the "Majority" not every single bull in the woods! (grin) Same as the answer shows not all bulls will be with the cows come Aug. 1st but a few stragglers can be & mostly the juvenile bulls at that! So yes, it's very true as you mention there could be other "loner bulls" not with either of these groups but as you can see this would be way too much to write for a question & answer! This is why for instruction type purposes the words are limited as is the question although extremely accurate in this case! Hope this helps! Thanks for checking it out!
ElkNut1
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Elknut,good explanation. That is kind of what I went into the test thinking "all thees questions are going to be general and not the rule"
Thanks for the good family fun, both my wife and 14 year old son took it. My wife only got 8 correct and my son got 7, both spikes.
My son asked "dad do they call it a lip ball because they have double chins" I was on the floor laughing!
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Raghorn...
14 correct "guesses", considering I don't have speakers on my work PC and I have never hunted Elk before , not too shabby.
I have a lot to learn....
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Not shabby at all for a guy who's not elk hunted!
Funkster, LOL!! That's is great stuff there!!!! I like the fact you involved your entire family, that is just way cool Sir!!! Great job!
ElkNut1