Post by: dscubame on January 30, 2011, 07:54:59 PM
Whacker1 had some good advice about buying a quality rifle so the value remains intact, I agreed.
My daughter is 9 and taking hunter safety in March preparing for the 2011 big game season. Her name is Rylie.
Here she is shooting yesterday as we were goofing off up in the NE corner around monumental mountain.
So what can you folks recommend?
Thank you, Dan
Post by: wadu1 on January 30, 2011, 08:01:22 PM
Post by: dscubame on January 30, 2011, 08:03:51 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 30, 2011, 08:07:09 PM
Starting with a quality gun is smart.
Post by: Wenatcheejay on January 30, 2011, 08:11:15 PM
I hope that helps.
BTW Cute Picture of her :)
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 30, 2011, 08:20:51 PM
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After reading up on the Rossi Trifecta it seems the gun is not so good with users reporting an average of 9 inch groups at 100 yards.
I don't know where you've been reading..
I've had two Rossi Triple Plays, (Trifecta).. for my boys. Both did well under 3" at 100yds with factory loads and aproached 1 1/2" with hand loads.
You get what you pay for. They're not a TC, but for the money, they're fine for a beginner.
In my eyes though, the best bang for the buck though is the Marlin XS7.
-Steve
Post by: dscubame on January 30, 2011, 08:26:10 PM
I just Googled it and stopped my research after the first 3 user reviews that came up on page one so I may be way off. You found the Rossi to be acceptable then I will look into it further because I really liked the 3 barrels in one concept.
Also interesed in the Tikka 3 idea from WenatcheeJay and will look up the Marlin XS7.
Thanks.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 30, 2011, 08:32:30 PM
Eye and ear protection for your daughter. Teach her right. :)
-Steve
Post by: dscubame on January 30, 2011, 08:36:08 PM
Post by: Wenatcheejay on January 30, 2011, 08:56:54 PM
Dan, I don't know what your budget is but the better rifle/scope/ammuntion you can afford the better. I just bought a Savage Edge but have not taken it out yet. That was $329.00 with scope or you could buy it for $250.00 in black stock at Cabelas through the 31st. I don't know about youth stocks for it. I may gift it to my brother (which is why I bought it.) That gun does have a hard trigger pull but that it not always bad for a young shooter. It's reviews says it is an accurate (MOA) gun.
I picked up the .243 (Rem 700 used) for $350.00, it was very accurate, and the Tikkia (Very Accurate) was $600.00 (new), both youth models.
Steve, I would consider 3" totally unacceptable, even 1.5" would not be something I would consider OK, but to each their own.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 30, 2011, 09:08:20 PM
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Steve, I would consider 3" totally unacceptable, even 1.5" would not be something I would consider OK, but to each their own.
Last time I checked... The kill zone is bigger than a couple inches. I kept my boys under 100yds with iron sights for their first kills. The youth Rossi's where only because they were small kids. They've moved on to bolt guns..
-Steve
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 30, 2011, 09:10:18 PM
Post by: Wenatcheejay on January 30, 2011, 09:23:26 PM
QuoteSteve, I would consider 3" totally unacceptable, even 1.5" would not be something I would consider OK, but to each their own.
Last time I checked... The kill zone is bigger than a couple inches. I kept my boys under 100yds with iron sights for their first kills. The youth Rossi's where only because they were small kids. They've moved on to bolt guns..
-Steve
Geeze Steve, I am not trying to be rude here. I have no problems with whatever people choose to do. Like I said, "To Each Their Own." If you choose to keep your young hunters under 100 yds and feel a 3" group is acceptable that is your thing. If you can get their groups to 1.5" even better. I don't and have never wanted to own a Rossi Trifecta. I was not trying to undermind anyone who wants to own one. I also was not the one scolding people for posting politically incorrect pictures on the site. I simply gave my opinion and shared the rifles that worked for me and my youth hunter. Be it 9" or 3" best case scenario I think an ethical hunter owes it to the animal to be as accurate and humane as possible. That is all I am sharing. :twocents:
Post by: hookr88 on January 30, 2011, 10:05:17 PM
Post by: Wenatcheejay on January 30, 2011, 11:02:56 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 30, 2011, 11:10:01 PM
If a tikka will fitter i would get her a t3 lite in the 7mm-08. A great caliber with low recoil and has enough puch to take any animal around here.My 9 year old son shoots my T3 and also a Win Mod 70, both in 30-06. The key is using very mild ammunition. A 30-06 with very mild ammunition has recoil that matches a 243...just something to consider. I hope that whatever you end up with makes your child a happy hunter for life!
Post by: TeacherMan on January 30, 2011, 11:18:50 PM
Post by: bearpaw on January 30, 2011, 11:22:42 PM
I love the 243. I have killed deer and elk with that caliber. Great gun for under 300 yards on large game. Best whitetail gun I own, before people go off I do not recommend it for elk, that was back in the day when both species where open at the same time and we just happend upon a group of elk while deer hunting. I would get the longest barrel that your daughter can comfortable handle. I love the 80 gr. federal load or if you hand load 85gr loads are great. I can't say enough about this caliber. Good luck, there is very little kick but I still would put or have put on a Sims Recoil Pad. Recoil can make bad habits. Good luck, I can't wait until my two daughters are a little older.
I agree, 243 or even a 7mm/08 in a remington model 7 or similar is an excellent kids gun.
Post by: demontang on January 31, 2011, 07:49:30 AM
Post by: Raul Duke on January 31, 2011, 08:23:52 AM
Great 1st gun for my little guy, shoots straight and I don't feel bad about getting rid of it once he out grows it.
Only thing I dont rally like id the way the bolt action works. But new out of the box for under 300, I can't complain.
Post by: Emptyhanded on January 31, 2011, 02:55:38 PM
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Post by: TeacherMan on January 31, 2011, 04:46:08 PM
I started out with a Remington Model 7 in .243 and it was a sweet little gun. If i wear to buy a youth rifle today i would buy another model 7 or a Ruger Compact. If money was a concern i would buy a Marlin XS7 in .243. What ever you end up choosing try feeding it 85 TSX's... awesome bullets.
I really like the fit of the ruger compact, and just the overal feel of it but the barrel length is to short. The extra 2-4" of barrel is very important in this caliber. The compacts barrel is only 16.5" You will have a much better gun if you can push that 20" mark.
Post by: Emptyhanded on January 31, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
I hear ya on that one. My buddy has one and that little barrel "barks" quite a bit, to say the least. I think my Model 7 had an 18" barrel. Handled really well and carried even better.I started out with a Remington Model 7 in .243 and it was a sweet little gun. If i wear to buy a youth rifle today i would buy another model 7 or a Ruger Compact. If money was a concern i would buy a Marlin XS7 in .243. What ever you end up choosing try feeding it 85 TSX's... awesome bullets.
I really like the fit of the ruger compact, and just the overal feel of it but the barrel length is to short. The extra 2-4" of barrel is very important in this caliber. The compacts barrel is only 16.5" You will have a much better gun if you can push that 20" mark.
Post by: TeacherMan on January 31, 2011, 10:43:17 PM
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