Post by: Mongo Hunter on January 31, 2011, 11:59:04 AM
I like the idea of an ATV cause of its size, but from experience with sport quads I know they can throw you a beating as much as you give one with a hard day of riding and I’m limited with space for cargo (tree stands, packs, guns, bows, people, ect.) or animals.
These new UTV’s look slick and have lots of cargo space plus, if I bring a buddy I have an open seat, but these things are NOT CHEAP!
So that brings me around to a purpose built hunting rig like a jeep, which although cheap and has room, I can’t get in has many places as a ATV or a UTV for that matter, which kinda defeats the purpose. I just thought I would get what you guys, like, don’t like, use, or have had experience with. Sorry for the long post but I have been thinking about this for a while, lol.
And tailoring is really no big deal but to trailer a Jeep to go hunting is a pain, so it would have to be in tip top mechanical shape so I don’t get left in the woods stranded. :)
Post by: bobcat on January 31, 2011, 12:07:07 PM
I'm not sure exactly what it is you're asking? Do you want a street legal vehicle, or not? What I've found is that ATV's/UTV's are not even legal to use in most places in this state, so you're better off having a full size street legal vehicle that you drive down the freeway if you want.
You might look into Suzuki Samurais. Just Google it and you'll find all kinds of information on modifying them for off road use.
Post by: skinzner on January 31, 2011, 12:09:45 PM
Post by: Mongo Hunter on January 31, 2011, 12:51:12 PM
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on January 31, 2011, 01:07:28 PM
I put a new centerforce clutch and heavier flywheel in it. New heavyduty springs in the rear (gets rid of the 4runner sag), new poly bushings, high output alternator. It's a daily driver so I've kept it mostly stock. However, you can do quite a bit to a 4runner to make it off road capable.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 31, 2011, 01:19:43 PM
Post by: Mongo Hunter on January 31, 2011, 01:25:52 PM
Post by: bigdave on January 31, 2011, 01:36:12 PM
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Post by: fair-chase on January 31, 2011, 01:37:59 PM
Post by: Mongo Hunter on January 31, 2011, 01:51:24 PM
Post by: Special T on January 31, 2011, 02:09:32 PM
If i were to have a dedicated hunting rig for close to home it would be a 80-85 subaru GL hatchback or wagon, Tracker-sami, or bronco 2... those rigs are cheep to buy and fix.. the first 2 you can run all day long for half the ammount of a F250 or other full size... if you got to travel far, tow stuff, and or bing the family your stuck... got to have the big crew cab. :twocents:
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on January 31, 2011, 02:37:06 PM
Post by: Special T on January 31, 2011, 03:11:28 PM
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Post by: gasman on January 31, 2011, 03:29:08 PM
I flat tow the Barbie Jeep every where. Pull up, un hook and I have transportation and a base camp ready in 5 minutes. No tieing it down to a trailer, no trailer to maintain, just hook up the tow bar and go.
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Post by: gotshot on January 31, 2011, 03:37:27 PM
Post by: Mongo Hunter on January 31, 2011, 04:23:50 PM
Post by: gasman on January 31, 2011, 04:41:48 PM
They can not be taken off road on public land. There is areas of public land thay can be used off road but if you cause resource damage, you can be fined. State Land, absolutly not, but you can drive them on the road on some state land areas, but not many.
If this state was more OHV friendly, I would get a UTV :bash:
Post by: twinners on January 31, 2011, 10:41:51 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on February 01, 2011, 05:48:37 AM
Post by: Mongo Hunter on February 01, 2011, 10:34:43 AM
Post by: NWBREW on February 01, 2011, 10:56:30 AM
Post by: BlackRidge on February 01, 2011, 11:04:20 AM
I bought a 1988 Bronco II about four years ago just for that purpose. I only paid $1000 and since then I haven't really put any money into it, other than a new alternator and some All Terrain tires (which I got used for $150.) The Bronco gets me into a lot of tight spots where I wouldn't necessarily want to drive my full size truck.
Thats definitely what Im leaning towards. My current car setup won't allow me to venture into many parts of the treefarms, and for the price, an old Bronco would probably be perfect, maybe an oooold 4runner too
Post by: yakimarcher on February 01, 2011, 11:27:21 AM
Post by: yajsab on February 01, 2011, 11:43:24 AM
Domestic: Bronco, Jeep
Import: Samurai, Montero 2 doors
ATV/UTV are not legal on almost all unpaved (main) roads.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 01, 2011, 11:47:21 AM
If you want to go tight places, I would lean toward the short wheel base.
Domestic: Bronco, Jeep
Import: Samurai, Montero 2 doors
ATV/UTV are not legal on almost all unpaved (main) roads.
That may change very soon
Post by: fair-chase on February 01, 2011, 11:57:08 AM
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Just think guys. If you bought one of these you could call home and tell the wife that you finally broke down and bought her that Mercedes Benz she always wanted. The look on her face would be priceless when you rolled in with one of these. :chuckle:
Post by: Special T on February 01, 2011, 07:58:28 PM
Post by: toyman2 on February 05, 2011, 02:17:07 PM
A good older 4 runner or toyota pu with 32s or 33s will go anywhere in the PNW, some of the others are pretty good rigs but the toyotas are so dependable. i also drive this almost everyday, i only trailer it if i go wheel more than 100 miles away.
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on February 17, 2011, 04:48:26 PM
Following is not my words but this guy sums up my experience perfectly:
"Pros:
--Cheap initial expense
--Cheap to modify
--Lots of available OEM parts
--Great gas mileage (much less loaded with two passengers, headwind, steep inclines)
--Great offroad, very "billy goat" like.
--Modular--doors or top come on and off with ease.
--Simple construction. Field fixes have never been easier.
--Handles like a cross between a Jeep and a VW Bug. Short gears, stiff suspension, and funny steering will ensure you have the full "Third World" driving experience. You'll never fall asleep while driving a Samurai.
Cons:
--Slow. Reeeeal slow.
--Other cars will not respect you. A lifted Silverado on 47"s will sit five feet off your rear bumper in the slow lane and shine his lights in your eyes as revenge for such inappropriate slowness. People will literally drive by and flip you off, cut you off, throw things at you, or try to run you off the road, even if you're in the slow lane. They do not care that your vehicle has a top speed of 65 mph (45-50 on 33's for me). They have somewhere to go, and you have delayed them nearly five seconds. For this, they must risk your life and the lives of those around you by making a very dangerous point about your grievous offense towards them.
--There is plenty of room...as long as you're not bringing much along. If you're one of those brave souls who can be comfortable with a bedroll, a socket set, an extra set of undies, and a modest beer cooler, you'll be happy. If you've ever backpacked or camped off a motorbike or a kayak, you'll be elated. If you're used to an 80 series Land Cruiser, you're in for a lesson in paring down and doing without.
--No airbags, crumple zones, or other fancy-schmancy safety features. You want safe? Get a helmet.
--Handles like a cross between a Jeep and a VW Bug. The gears are so short, the suspension so stiff, and the steering so drifty, that you are assured to never have a dull moment. The full "Third World" driving experience. You'll never relax while driving a Samurai.
If this sounds like something you're crazy enough to enjoy, get a Samurai. And then get some psychiatric help."
I basically trailer my Samurai if I have to take it on pavement. I was hoping it would be a little more roadworthy and I now wish I would have gotten a Jeep Cherokee XJ so I could comfortably fit my kids in the vehicle and drive to where I need to go..yet still have a narrow and fairly short wheelbase vehicle to get down the tight trails.
All of this being said..the Sami is a lot of fun and it really grows on you. You realize it isn't practical for most applications but man it is a cool little vehicle and it hard to get rid of because you know you will miss it.
Post by: mr.ktm95 on February 17, 2011, 05:11:55 PM
Post by: yajsab on February 17, 2011, 08:37:22 PM
I got rid of my FJ40 and bought this for under $300. No lift yet. The "Cons" you describe fits me well, but give me 1 minute and I can easily go pass 70 mph. :chuckle:
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on February 19, 2011, 09:16:00 AM
Post by: bobcat on February 19, 2011, 09:35:36 AM
Post by: yajsab on February 19, 2011, 04:06:54 PM
The Montero, IMO, is a lot better on the street/hwy than the FJ40 that I got. That is the only reason I sold my FJ40.
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on February 19, 2011, 04:54:39 PM
Yeah, I haven't seen these on the trail as well. There are couple guys out there that I talked to on other forum but haven't met them yet.
The Montero, IMO, is a lot better on the street/hwy than the FJ40 that I got. That is the only reason I sold my FJ40.
The street/hwy issue is the only reason I have considered selling my Sami. It's has grown on me so it is hard to let it go.
Post by: Wazukie on February 19, 2011, 05:18:54 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 19, 2011, 05:19:24 PM
:yeah: That would be a good replacement for my Bronco II.
ARE YOU NUTS!!??? Get rid of a Bronco II?? I had a '91 Ranger 4x4 pickup for 16 years and loved it! Manual everything, and everything worked. It had 183,000 miles on it when it got totalled in an accident, and if not for that, I'd still be driving it. I now have an '07 GMC Canyon 4x4 pickup, AND I HATE IT!! Sure, it's comfortable and economical, but all that new electronic crap makes me nervous. I've already spent more money on repairs in 3 years, than I spent on the Ranger in 16 years. I'm looking for a Bronco II in good shape, with the 2.9 V-6. One of the best engines Ford ever made. If your Bronco II needs something, fix it! Love it. Cherish it! But don't get rid of it!!
Post by: bobcat on February 19, 2011, 06:01:26 PM
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on February 19, 2011, 07:24:29 PM
I use my feet mostly when I am hunting. To get to where I park (Only 10 minutes away from home) I use my 03 Yukon. If anyone is in the market for a nice stock sammy, check the classifieds in about a week. Sammies are great little rigs, but yes they are small. I've never had an issue with speed in them as the speed limit in this state is only 65mph most places. They will go anywhere a jeep will go and probably get there easier. ;) I've been building and wheeling them for about 15 years now I think. It seems like every time I try a yeep out, I end up with another Sammy.
I love the Sami for getting down some of those tight Forest Service Roads. It is nice because it is so small that it is easy to get it off to the side of those tight roads so others can pass when I am out in the woods.
I can only get 50 out of mine; downhill (a big hill) and with a tailwind. Something is up with my steering (probably due to the lift..I am guessing??) because it is a whitenuckle driving experience. I am thinking about dropping a 1.6 in this summer and figure out what is going on with the steering.
Post by: raekmike on February 19, 2011, 08:02:17 PM
Gonna try using a 95 Honda Passport aka "rodeo" 4x4 this year.
It's just sitting out there so may as well give it a try..... :dunno: it's the spare family vehicle..
Post by: krout81 on February 19, 2011, 08:20:43 PM
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Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on February 19, 2011, 08:32:52 PM
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Post by: swanny on March 08, 2011, 07:25:39 PM
My hunting rig... 1994 yota 189,000 miles!!!
I must say, I have always thought camo on a truck was just ugly as can be, but you did it right, that looks great!