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Title: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 03, 2011, 10:52:34 AM: I have never been much of a knot guy. I know a square knot for my baler's. I just run a swivel knot most of the time, when I am fishing. Then just a type of egg loop for my hook knots. My question is: I am starting to get back into fishing more and more. I think I want to try using some more braided lines. What knots work best? Can you just use a swivel knot? I have had guys tell me you can't use standard knots with the braided lines. Is there any truth to that? I have Dacron on my sturgeon pole. The swivel knot works well with it. But not sure on the braided stuff like spider wire etc.

Any info is appreciated,links/pictures are welcome too. Thanks
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: woodywsu on February 03, 2011, 10:55:49 AM: Can't go wrong with a palomar knot
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: SeaRun1 on February 03, 2011, 10:56:44 AM: Well the braids definitely need different knots as it is more slippery then mono. I use PowerPro quite a bit and I use the Uni Knot for most connections to terminal gear. I cannot remember the name for the mono to braid knot but it is in the pamphlet that comes with the line. Otherwise there are some really good knot sites on google.

SeaRun1
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: lokidog on February 03, 2011, 11:13:29 AM: I think most of the braids show knots that you can use with their lines in the packaging. One I use is to make a loop the same as for mono, and then push through the eye and around the lure/swivel. I also use a clinch or improved clinch if I was in a hurry. This is strong but not as strong as some others. Blood knot works for line to line. It seems that knots that cinch at non-right angles work best as right angle ones might cut themselves more easily.
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: Straight Shooter on February 03, 2011, 12:05:05 PM: Quote from: woodywsu on February 03, 2011, 10:55:49 AM
Can't go wrong with a palomar knot
:yeah:
My favorite knot... has never failed on mono or braided.
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: robodad on February 03, 2011, 12:11:03 PM: Quote from: Straight Shooter on February 03, 2011, 12:05:05 PM
Quote from: woodywsu on February 03, 2011, 10:55:49 AM
Can't go wrong with a palomar knot
:yeah:
My favorite knot... has never failed on mono or braided.

X3, Super fast and strong, never a problem !! ;)
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: WSU on February 03, 2011, 12:20:33 PM: Either this: http://www.powerpro.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/power_pro_v2/info/using_powerpro/knots/palomar_knot_.html (http://www.powerpro.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/power_pro_v2/info/using_powerpro/knots/palomar_knot_.html)

or this: http://www.powerpro.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/power_pro_v2/info/using_powerpro/knots/uni_knot.html (http://www.powerpro.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/power_pro_v2/info/using_powerpro/knots/uni_knot.html)

The first is easier and is plenty strong.
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: h20hunter on February 03, 2011, 12:26:32 PM: I have always used the traditional trileen knot. The difference with braid is I run twice through the eye of the hook, two loops, and twice through on the last step.
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: singleshot12 on February 03, 2011, 12:34:28 PM: I still use the improved clinch knot, Bimini twist ,and the blood knot, they haven't failed me yet!
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: Button Nubbs on February 03, 2011, 12:46:56 PM: Another vote for the palomar knot. Easy to tie and hasn't failed me.
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 03, 2011, 12:59:24 PM: Thanks a bunch guys! I am not to proud to admit, That I suck at fishing knots! But I have spent the last half hour or so making the uni knot and Palomar knot! I like them both a ton!!!! I just went threw and retied all my knots on my gator pole. + All my pre-tied hook setups. That uni knot rocks for swivel connections! I think that will be my new bowfishing knot to me safety slides as well.

With the Palomar knot do you guys think it is stronger then the egg loops? I do 5 wraps threw the eye and 5 wraps again. I like it because I can use it to help hold the bait. But sometimes I don't need the loop and will now use the Palomar knot. But wanted to ask what you guys thought was stronger.

Thanks everyone now I am not a knot dummy :chuckle:
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: MtnMuley on February 03, 2011, 01:16:59 PM: Palomar only for me when use braid. :twocents:
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: KopperBuck on February 03, 2011, 03:12:27 PM: Quote from: MtnMuley on February 03, 2011, 01:16:59 PM
Palomar only for me when use braid. :twocents:

Agreed. NEVER had one slip as compared to several of the other options. I probably use this knot 95% of the time - braid, mono or fluoro. Just make sure with fluoro that it's clean when you cinch it. Have had problems breaking if I'm in a hurry and get sloppy.
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: ICEMAN on February 03, 2011, 03:29:02 PM: Spooling up for a Halibut season, we felt the Powerpro we bought was not as strong as it should have been. We tested it at home and found it broke way too early, even with a palomar knot... After contacted Berkley's rep....we were put in contact with a Berkley lab tech and was able to over the phone convince them that their powerpro megaspool left the factory with the wrong label on it.... we used a palomar to test the tensile strength of our sample. Shipped the sample back and we were within one pound of the breaking strength of what the lab rat found. We got to keep the over 200bucks of line and put it on our salmon rods.... heh heh heh...

My point is that the Palomar knot is what we were advised to use to verify breaking strength....from the factory...

Go with the Palomar...
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: uplandhunter870 on February 03, 2011, 04:47:02 PM: i use a palomar or a improved clinch knot, but i do 2 passes through the hook eye on the clinch, when im tying braided. i always make sure the line is wet before i tighten the clinch knot. both of these havent failed me yet.

when tying braided to a mono leader i use a nail knot, kinda a pain without one of those fancy knot tools, so i usually end up putting a barrel swivel between the braid and mono and tying two im. clinches
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: Antlershed on February 03, 2011, 05:35:22 PM: For tying braid to swivels, duolocks, etc. I use the improved clinch knot and have never had it slip. I too run the braid through the eye of the swivel twice. For tying mono to braid, double uni knot is the only knot I use anymore.
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: GEARHEAD on February 03, 2011, 05:45:26 PM: palomar, never failed me yet, use it for oversize.
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: bwhntr350 on February 03, 2011, 06:01:04 PM: I had always used the uni-knot to tie braid to mono or flourocarbon. Met a professional bass fisherman at the Sportsman's show that says that the "Albright" knot is the best for that.

I just bought a new rod and reel and put 50 pound braided backing on and about 20 or 30 yards of 20 pound flourocarbon and used that knot for the first time. Seems pretty tough and is a snap to do. It does come up as a fairly long knot though, when you use heavy line like I did.

For other knots, agree with the others, uni or palomar.

Tying an albright knot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92R9F9ZNi2I#)
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: ribka on February 03, 2011, 06:31:42 PM: mono to braid I use uni-knot

braid to lure use palomar. Probably one of the strongest knots available :twocents:
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: TheHunt on February 03, 2011, 07:05:20 PM: I like the Uni and Palomar, which neither one has ever failed.
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 03, 2011, 11:07:51 PM: Thanks everyone. I have learned a couple of great knots :IBCOOL: They will replace the others that I use for sure! I have had good luck with mine but they are not the best. It helps to know good knots when you are a licensed fishing guide right :chuckle:
Title: Re: What knots to tie with braided line?
Post by: Wacenturion on February 04, 2011, 04:02:30 PM: Quote from: Straight Shooter on February 03, 2011, 12:05:05 PM
Quote from: woodywsu on February 03, 2011, 10:55:49 AM
Can't go wrong with a palomar knot
:yeah:
My favorite knot... has never failed on mono or braided.

Agree........