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Other Hunting => Coyote, Small Game, Varmints => Topic started by: jgregg on February 04, 2011, 05:03:59 PM

Title: Can't call worth crap
Post by: jgregg on February 04, 2011, 05:03:59 PM: I've been out a total of 14 times this season. Just last week I shot my first two coyotes :IBCOOL:. One was off hand call and one was off an electronic call. I used the electronic call first and brought the dog into about 100 yards before he met 175 grains of 7mm mag. The second one wouldn't come closer than 250 but I held one inch over on him and blew a 6 inch whole through his spine and the top of his back. :rolleyes: While this is all good and fun, what I'm really wanting to do is to learn how to use only hand calls to get them in close. SHooting coyotes is easy enough since I found a rancher who wants them dead and I've just been hunting a bait pile. I don't count those coyotes as kills. So what I'm getting at is...Is there anyone out there who'd be willing to take me out on a hunt or two to show me the ropes? I'm looking for a more traditional and rewarding way of hunting the doggies. I'd appreciate any tips or pointers as well or even land that's not too hunted over. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Can't call worth crap
Post by: Bofire on February 04, 2011, 06:50:59 PM: First, 2 coyotes in 14 stands is GOOD! 20 years from now you are going to beg for that average. You might want to reconsider the 7mm 175 grain bullets coyotes are very tough, you might want a bigger gun!! :chuckle: Where do you live and hunt?
Carl
Title: Re: Can't call worth crap
Post by: AWS on February 05, 2011, 02:18:50 PM: Like Carl said your doing pretty good. I personally think that calling sounds are a very small part of coyote hunting. I use a lot of very strange sounds and have called in coyotes with the very cheapest E and hand calls to expensive custom hand calls and high end E-callers. The hardest parts are stand location, understanding what coyotes are going to do and scent, sound and movement control. Even if someone shows you its still a learning curve on you own. The more you get out and call, pay attention to things that go right and try to figure out why they did, and when things go WRONG(backdoored, spotted, short stopped) figure out how you could have made the stand and eliminated the problem. Just because nothing showed up doent mean something went wrong.

Keep at it.

AWS
Title: Re: Can't call worth crap
Post by: GEARHEAD on February 05, 2011, 04:20:37 PM: ya got the skunk off, now ya know ya can do it. camo camo camo is all i can say, especially hands and face.
Title: Re: Can't call worth crap
Post by: CastleRocker on February 05, 2011, 04:46:52 PM: Words to live by; Setup is everything. "You can fool a coyotes eyes and ears, but you can't fool a coyotes nose, and they ALWAYS believe their nose!"

As far as your calling success goes, you defiately have room for improvement. I've gone 23 sets without seeing a dog! A personal best for me. :'( When you top that, let me know. :(
Title: Re: Can't call worth crap
Post by: elkslayer069 on February 06, 2011, 09:45:46 PM: what castlerocker never heard of 24th times the charm? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Can't call worth crap
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 06, 2011, 09:55:26 PM: Quote from: Bofire on February 04, 2011, 06:50:59 PM
First, 2 coyotes in 14 stands is GOOD! 20 years from now you are going to beg for that average. You might want to reconsider the 7mm 175 grain bullets coyotes are very tough, you might want a bigger gun!! :chuckle: Where do you live and hunt?
Carl
Yep I would consider the .416 rigby. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Can't call worth crap
Post by: jgregg on February 07, 2011, 02:20:27 PM: Quote from: Bofire on February 04, 2011, 06:50:59 PM
First, 2 coyotes in 14 stands is GOOD! 20 years from now you are going to beg for that average. You might want to reconsider the 7mm 175 grain bullets coyotes are very tough, you might want a bigger gun!! :chuckle: Where do you live and hunt?
Carl

Haha If I had a varmint calliber I'd be able to actually use the pelts! Unfortunately a college kid doesn't have money for much more than school :( I live in the Tri cities and hunt north of Pasco, and South of the tri cities throughout finley
Title: Re: Can't call worth crap
Post by: blowgun on February 09, 2011, 07:27:41 AM: I find that the best coyote call is dead elk guts, when that is not possible I use a cheap e-call. Like they said, make sure you are hidden, head to toe. The coyotes probably wouldn't come in close to you because they won't come anywhere near your smell. You have to be covered with scent, they are some of the trickiest dogs. I have seen one wrong whiff of human send them running.
Title: Re: Can't call worth crap
Post by: yottie on February 24, 2011, 01:10:37 PM: Hey CastleRocker you must be hunting the same spots I do. It's been tough around here. I have about 20 spots to set stands, but 10 I try more than the others. I think i have your 23 stands without a kill beat by a longshot. :chuckle:. If it wasn't for the enjoyment of getting out and enjoying nature along the way I'd go nuts. If I could call dogs in as good as I call deer,crows,porkys I'd be happy. Just gets a little frustrating sometimes. :bash:
Title: Re: Can't call worth crap
Post by: BIGINNER on February 24, 2011, 01:16:52 PM: Quote from: jgregg on February 04, 2011, 05:03:59 PM
I've been out a total of 14 times this season. Just last week I shot my first two coyotes :IBCOOL:. One was off hand call and one was off an electronic call. I used the electronic call first and brought the dog into about 100 yards before he met 175 grains of 7mm mag. The second one wouldn't come closer than 250 but I held one inch over on him and blew a 6 inch whole through his spine and the top of his back. :rolleyes: While this is all good and fun, what I'm really wanting to do is to learn how to use only hand calls to get them in close. SHooting coyotes is easy enough since I found a rancher who wants them dead and I've just been hunting a bait pile. I don't count those coyotes as kills. So what I'm getting at is...Is there anyone out there who'd be willing to take me out on a hunt or two to show me the ropes? I'm looking for a more traditional and rewarding way of hunting the doggies. I'd appreciate any tips or pointers as well or even land that's not too hunted over. :rolleyes:

nice !!! :tup:
did you try any of the spots i emailed you?
hopefully i will be able to get out soon. :drool:
Title: Re: Can't call worth crap
Post by: VarmintVentilator on February 24, 2011, 02:58:39 PM: jgregg, I figured you had to be fairly young, nobody I know with much age under their belt would want to shoot a 7mm with 175gr. bullets more than once in a days time. :chuckle: My brother has one, and I'm getting to old for that kind of hammering. You don't really know it yet, but I think you are getting very close to accomplishing your goal. You already have the desire for the true hunt. Besides, if it was easy everyone would kill 8 - 10 dogs each time out, and by March there wouldn't be any left. Keep on Hunting. ;)
Title: Re: Can't call worth crap
Post by: trippledigitss on February 25, 2011, 04:07:42 PM: Quote from: BIGINNER on February 24, 2011, 01:16:52 PM

nice !!! :tup:
did you try any of the spots i emailed you?
hopefully i will be able to get out soon. :drool:

DUDE - I hope you guys arent killing all my secret personal spots dry! :'( (the spots you turned me on to!) :chuckle:

Actually maybe I should say 'calling' the spots dry since it sounds like there hasnt been alot of success on the killing end! Keep at it, I think you will be dead'n alot more dogs as the pup season continues on.
Title: Re: Can't call worth crap
Post by: BIGINNER on February 25, 2011, 04:13:47 PM: Quote from: trippledigitss on February 25, 2011, 04:07:42 PM
Quote from: BIGINNER on February 24, 2011, 01:16:52 PM

nice !!! :tup:
did you try any of the spots i emailed you?
hopefully i will be able to get out soon. :drool:

DUDE - I hope you guys arent killing all my secret personal spots dry! :'( (the spots you turned me on to!) :chuckle:

Actually maybe I should say 'calling' the spots dry since it sounds like there hasnt been alot of success on the killing end! Keep at it, I think you will be dead'n alot more dogs as the pup season continues on.

lol you don't count you live far away, so you're not gonna be around alot, and i rarely get to go out, so not too much pressure :chuckle:
Title: Re: Can't call worth crap
Post by: trippledigitss on February 25, 2011, 10:13:08 PM: Yeah, you are right. I never did get back over there last month so I havent been back out there since the 1st time last summer! But I do want to get over there again as soon as I can.