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Title: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: butcher98951 on February 05, 2011, 05:34:17 PM
Friend of mine has a bear with paws and head wondering what its going to cost and who can do it in washington???
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: 400out on February 05, 2011, 05:39:05 PM
I know Bucklucky does them
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,65931.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,65931.0.html)
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: top pin1 on February 05, 2011, 06:07:27 PM
$150 nose to tip of tail is what I paid..
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on February 05, 2011, 08:25:51 PM
I charge 140.00 a foot from tip of nose to base of tail.


Joe
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: Whitelightning on February 05, 2011, 08:36:39 PM
Michelle Nelson also does bear, that is who has mine :)
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on February 05, 2011, 10:29:18 PM
butcher98951,

Right now I am still going off of my 2010 prices.  I am charging $165 per L/F (nose to tail) to do a Bear Rug.  I am located in Rochester, WA.  (360) 704 - 0034.  :)

Here is a link to my website:

www.freewebs.com/mntaxidermy (http://www.freewebs.com/mntaxidermy) 

Here are several links to pictures of Bear Rugs I have done.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,53698.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,53698.0.html)

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,53342.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,53342.0.html)

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,54497.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,54497.0.html)

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,53339.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,53339.0.html)
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: 400out on February 05, 2011, 11:11:53 PM
those are expensive  :o are they really that labor intensive to do?
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: dirty24d on February 05, 2011, 11:35:52 PM
so what does a typical blackie run? 5 feet ?   about 750.00? or am i way off?
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: dirty24d on February 05, 2011, 11:39:29 PM
great rugs michelle!!! wow
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: butcher98951 on February 06, 2011, 07:18:04 AM
Thanks for all the respons, i will be seeing him today and let him know the prices and get back to everyone that posted. thanks
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: Kuduman on February 06, 2011, 10:01:29 AM

Butcher98951:

 Lots of great taxidermists on here. I charge $145 per L/F but don't go solely on price. Have your friend visit the taxidermist and see for himself

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,39759.0/topicseen.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,39759.0/topicseen.html)

Good Luck

Jeff
A.K.A. Kuduman
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: Ray on February 06, 2011, 10:08:32 AM
At least 500-700 dollars or more depending on the size of the bear... if you are going to get it done right. Otherwise don't waste your time on a poor job. If you can get it done for less than 600 I'd be looking at previous work to ensure quality..
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: CastleRocker on February 06, 2011, 10:46:08 AM
those are expensive  :o are they really that labor intensive to do?

It's been my experience that most of the time, you get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on February 06, 2011, 01:55:01 PM
those are expensive  :o are they really that labor intensive to do?

It is labor and materials.  Yeah there is a lot of work to a Bear Rug.  It is hard to do a 100% accurate break down of suplies and materials because each Bear varies.

In a nut shell these are the material costs for a 6' Black Bear.

* Tanning @ $28 per L/F = $168.00
* Shipping to Tannery (ship multiple hides@one time) and for Supplies (large order) = $20 - $25
* Head Form w/ Jaw set (price has gone up) = $157.75
* Eyes = $8.50
* Badding (2 yards @ 6.99 per yard) = $13.98
* Backing (2 yards @ 7.99 per yard) = $15.98
* Felt (2 yards @ 4.99 per yard) = $ 9.98
* D-Rings (5 @ $.35 each) = $1.75
* Adhesive = $14.99
* Miscellaneous ( Bondo, Clay, Glues and Hide Pastes, Thread, Paint, Epoxy, Screws) $25

TOTAL = $435.93

That's $435.93 for supplies and we haven't even touched yet on Labor. These can only be approximate times because again each Bear varies.

* Splitting and Fleshing (2 Hours)
* Salting 2 x (45 minutes)
* Head Assembly (1 hour)
* Install Rug Shell ( 2 - 3 hours)
* Stretching the skin and sewing up bullet holes (2.5 hours)
* Rug work including sewing on felt, installing batting, and hand sewing the backing (8 hours)
* Finnish Work (1 hour)


That is 17.25 hours of Labor @ a shop rate of $35 per hours = $603.75.

I should be charging $1039.68 for a 6' Bear Rug.  In 2011 I am $165 per L/F that's $990 for a 6' Black Bear Rug.

Shop rates ($35 per hour) are based on my Hourly Wage, Shop Utilities (Electricity, Water, etc), Purchase of tools and equipment, etc.

Keep in mind that those prices are based on if everything goes right. 

If someone brings in a Bear that is not skinned out correctly, shot in the face, exit wounds I can put my fist through, knife cuts all over the Bear, and I have to make unnecessary repairs than I charge $35 per hour to make those repairs.  Most of the time if I can make the repairs needed within 45 minutes I don't charge.  Anything over that I have to charge.

Here is an example of a Bear cut wrong for a Rug.  This is pretty extream though.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,28803.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,28803.0.html)
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: runamuk on February 06, 2011, 02:03:59 PM
Michelle Nelson also does bear, that is who has mine :)

And I will add...she does really awesome bear rugs....I have seen a few of them and they are really nice...
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: Hyde on February 06, 2011, 08:12:37 PM
When I was young and in the Air Force, all I wanted to do was learn taxidermy.  I dreamed about it for years, but there was no internet back then, and talking someone into teaching you the art was all but impossible.  I finally made friends with a taxidermist who eventually (after constant nagging by me) taught me some basics.  I'll never forget when he said "boy... you don't become a taxidermist to get rich... you do it because you love the work, the craft, the art."  He impressed on me that days are long, and the pay is little (compared to how hard you work).  Some years later, I was applying for a job as an aircraft mechanic as a civilian.  I walked into that interview with my AF folder, commendations, letters of recommendation, all my written reviews, etc.  I asked about pay, and was floored when the interviewer told me I would start at 8.00 an hour.  He said the same thing I had heard before... you don't become a civilian aircraft mechanic for the pay.   You do it because you love working on airplanes. 

An excellent taxidermist could probably double their prices and still not really make what they are worth.  The craft and "art" of the trade take years to master.  From what I can tell, our "HW family taxidermists" are all excellent, and worth every penny of what they charge. 

I do have to give a big shout out to Buzzi though.... he spent hours measuring my moose, and writing letters to B&C, and SCI for me.  I tried to pay him, he declined.  I sent a check anyway.... he sent it back.  He wouldn't take a penny.  He's a class act for sure, and an outstanding taxidermist!
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on February 10, 2011, 11:34:27 AM
you don't become a taxidermist to get rich... you do it because you love the work, the craft, the art."  He impressed on me that days are long, and the pay is little (compared to how hard you work).

Thats for sure.

Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on February 10, 2011, 11:37:20 AM
so what does a typical blackie run? 5 feet ?   about 750.00? or am i way off?

Yeah a 5' Blackie at $165 per L/F would run $825.  Plus Sales Tax, in my area it is 7.9%, so $65.18.  Total for the Bear your looking at $890.18.
Title: Re: Bear rug whats it going to cost us??
Post by: sisu on February 10, 2011, 12:15:55 PM
Taxi work goes like this: YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU GET if you are using a taxi that has pride in their work, does not cut corners, tell ya up front the cost etc. Ask around, get opinions but remember opinions are just that. Looking at peoples' work tells the truth.
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