Post by: Jason on February 06, 2011, 06:43:18 PM
anyone have an H-S Precision stock and do you like it? any other stocks recommended?
trying to keep it below $400, I'm looking a the Pro Series Sporter in Olive/Black
Post by: Jamieb on February 06, 2011, 07:10:04 PM
On light kickers their fine but on a heavy kicker like the 300 win mag a HS will be brutal, From my experience HS is one of the worst at transmitting recoil back into the shooter. For $400 I'd keep a eye open for a used McMillan, my favorite is the Classic.
Post by: Wenatcheejay on February 06, 2011, 07:17:14 PM
Post by: Jason on February 06, 2011, 07:29:26 PM
Post by: Drifterat on February 06, 2011, 07:33:00 PM
Jamieb how much difference in recoil will the HS have over my synthetic Ruger stock?
Yeah it can't be worse than that plastic stock Ruger uses. Those things kick.
Post by: Wenatcheejay on February 06, 2011, 07:39:01 PM
You could try the slip on with the current stock.?.
Post by: Jamieb on February 06, 2011, 07:44:54 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on February 06, 2011, 07:46:21 PM
Post by: Jason on February 06, 2011, 07:51:30 PM
I could get a new stock for $511 w/limbsaver pad. not sure how much the classic weighs.
My Factory synthetic stock weighs 34oz
Post by: Jason on February 06, 2011, 07:52:29 PM
synthetic Ruger stock compared to the HS, If your talking the ruger boat paddle(skeletonized) then the HS would be a upgrade.no not the boat paddle one.
Post by: FC on February 06, 2011, 07:55:09 PM
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=289219 (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=289219)
Post by: longrange7mm on February 06, 2011, 09:11:47 PM
Post by: Jamieb on February 06, 2011, 10:21:41 PM
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Post by: MDGrand on February 07, 2011, 09:12:36 AM
BUT.. I will agree with the rest on the board here.. the recoil pads them come with are ROCK HARD. I mean, brutally ROCK HARD. I put a Pachmeyer on mine when I got it, now it is perfect.
Post by: FC on February 07, 2011, 09:45:09 AM
BUT.. I will agree with the rest on the board here.. the recoil pads them come with are ROCK HARD. I mean, brutally ROCK HARD. I put a Pachmeyer on mine when I got it, now it is perfect.
That is pretty funny, B&C stocks come with a Pachmayr decelerator! They also come with an aluminum bedding block, no glass required.
Post by: MDGrand on February 07, 2011, 10:02:01 AM
1. I wanted a Thumb hole stock. When shooting a heavy magnum (I shoot a 300 RUM), the recoil is significant enough to have your hand travel in the the trigger guard, by having your hand behind a thumb hold grip in forces a better hand position , hence why most Lapua and 50 BMG sniper rifles have thumb hold grips.
2. The Thumb hold grip from B&C is lighter by almost a 1 lb. I believe in carry in a bit more heavier rifle in this particular caliber, helps with recoil, accuracy and a heavier rifle when hunting seems to not be prone to jitters while aiming, at least for me.
3. Again due to the thumb hole stock that I wanted, the B&C thumbold varies in fit compared to the standard Medalist, sometimes requiring epoxy bedding to really get the required fit, especially in long actions.
.... So, while I love the B&C and I do, the Weatherby Vanguard Sub MOA in 300 WSM comes with one and it honestly is the best feeling stock I have in the cabinet, the Thumbole B&C is actually NOT that good when compared to others. But for Jason's purposes, it looks like he is looking for a pretty normal looking stock and you really can't go wrong with the B&C.
But if I were Jason, I would make sure with the long action 300wm, he does not have to do any additional bedding. He probably wont, due to the longevity of the cartridge and there are some military applications using the WM as a sniper rifle anyway, but I would want to be sure. easier to replace the recoil pad then bed the action.
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Post by: FC on February 07, 2011, 10:29:00 AM
3. Again due to the thumb hole stock that I wanted, the B&C thumbold varies in fit compared to the standard Medalist, sometimes requiring epoxy bedding to really get the required fit, especially in long actions.
Who told you this? Was it the guy who sold you the HS? B&C has a CNC aluminum bedding block for most calibers and a steel one intended for use with magnums, if you just don't like them I get it but it sounds like you have been misinformed.
As for the US military using the HS? Our government always spends it's tax dollars wisely so I would never consider arguing with you on that premise ;)
Post by: Jason on February 07, 2011, 10:30:29 AM
That is pretty funny, B&C stocks come with a Pachmayr decelerator! They also come with an aluminum bedding block, no glass required.
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B&C doesn't offer an aluminum bedded block stock for The Rugers, atleast I couldn't find it on there site.
Post by: MDGrand on February 07, 2011, 10:50:11 AM
3. Again due to the thumb hole stock that I wanted, the B&C thumbold varies in fit compared to the standard Medalist, sometimes requiring epoxy bedding to really get the required fit, especially in long actions.
Who told you this? Was it the guy who sold you the HS? B&C has a CNC aluminum bedding block for most calibers and a steel one intended for use with magnums, if you just don't like them I get it but it sounds like you have been misinformed.
As for the US military using the HS? Our government always spends it's tax dollars wisely so I would never consider arguing with you on that premise ;)
I did my own research. I asked guys who have purchased the B&C Thubhole stock as well as talked to a local Riflesmith here in the area. Many people have a perfect fit right out of the box but for the thumbhole magnum calibers, there has been times where some epoxy bedding was required. I did not want to risk it. The riflesmith told me to go with McMillian but he had not used their thumbhole stocks and he knew the HS Precision has a real nice drop in replacement. Again, the full length alumimum bedding, weight, and overall make up is what guided me to choose the HS over the precsion. So to be clear, i really like B&C stocks.. I have one that came with my Vanguard Sub MOA, and it feels more natural when raise than any other, including the HS.. BUT, for the specific application I was after, I think the HS was the better choice.
Post by: Lowedog on February 07, 2011, 10:51:07 AM
Not a great pic...i took it when I painted the barrel and action.
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My other 2 rifles with HS stocks came with them. One is a Remington 700 VSSF .223 and the other is a CZ 527 Varmint in .204.
Post by: Jason on February 07, 2011, 02:14:10 PM
tring to keep it light, recoil is a non issue, I just want a good upgrade from the stock one.
I dont mind doing a little glass bedding myself If i have to, but I'm not paying someone to $200 to do it.
I floated the factory stock, went from 3"+ to 1" groups, but there's to much flex in the factory forarm.
Post by: high country on February 07, 2011, 09:38:27 PM
Post by: Jason on February 08, 2011, 07:29:47 AM
Mc Milan will be the stiffest, b&c is pretty light, but my preference for a light stock.....but will require bedding, the us sells the bedding block theory, but steel, aluminum and fiberglass have different coefficient of thermal expansions.......so I have never bought one of theirs. Brown, manners, lone wolf.....check them out too.Lone Wolf has some nice stocks, not sure I want to run a 15-22oz stock though :yike: probably bounce the scope off my head :chuckle:
Post by: Huntboy on February 08, 2011, 08:19:16 AM
http://www.greybullprecision.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6&Itemid=6 (http://www.greybullprecision.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6&Itemid=6)
Post by: MDGrand on February 08, 2011, 09:18:54 AM
Post by: Jason on February 08, 2011, 09:41:46 AM
These are just a little heavier than you want, but here's the link.I looked there before, the only stocks they have are for 700 actions.
http://www.greybullprecision.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6&Itemid=6 (http://www.greybullprecision.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6&Itemid=6)