Post by: grousetracker on February 08, 2011, 07:00:23 PM
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on February 08, 2011, 07:05:58 PM
Post by: alwinearcher on February 08, 2011, 08:35:23 PM
Having right handed sight on a left handed bow shouldnt be a big deal, just end up with the bubble on top.
Post by: sakoshooter on February 10, 2011, 01:39:38 PM
Post by: alwinearcher on February 10, 2011, 02:19:50 PM
The level is a reference no different than the pins. As long as you are consistent and your pins are adjusted to your style of shooting, you're good. Now, if you held your bow out of plumb/level differently each time, it'd make a big difference. No different than not holding your pin on target each time consistently.
Thats is true,
But, if you have your bow canted one way (even if its the same every time) your shots will gradually go left or right as the distance gets further unless you adjust the 2nd Axis so it is canted to make up for your bow cant. In order to do that you would need leveling tools, in which case you might as well of just correct your bubble...
Post by: MIKEXRAY on February 10, 2011, 02:54:52 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on February 10, 2011, 02:59:35 PM
The level is a reference no different than the pins. As long as you are consistent and your pins are adjusted to your style of shooting, you're good. Now, if you held your bow out of plumb/level differently each time, it'd make a big difference. No different than not holding your pin on target each time consistently.
Thats is true,
But, if you have your bow canted one way (even if its the same every time) your shots will gradually go left or right as the distance gets further unless you adjust the 2nd Axis so it is canted to make up for your bow cant. In order to do that you would need leveling tools, in which case you might as well of just correct your bubble...
I agree with you both. Very good statements. Personally, I'd level my bow and then sight pins accordingly.
Post by: alwinearcher on February 10, 2011, 03:32:34 PM
Most Pros will "bubble into the wind" when they are shooting in the wind. They will know at 30 yards with a 10 MPH wind if they hold half a bubble into the wind to correct for wind drift.
Post by: MtnMuley on February 10, 2011, 04:25:36 PM
Post by: alwinearcher on February 10, 2011, 04:47:56 PM
True Alwine. However, I'm the kind of hunter that would never get that far into thought if the moment on a trophy arose.......especially at 30! :chuckle: Hell, I'd hold into the wind before I checked the bubble! :chuckle:
Yeah, I usually just hold off too..
Post by: grousetracker on February 10, 2011, 05:25:53 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on February 10, 2011, 05:59:25 PM
it seems like i am shooting worse since i started watching the bubble. i think my pins are adjusted for the slight cant of the bow. i still need a different grip for the bow but i am headed for bobs on saturday!You might need to adjust a little. make sure you are not putting to much thought into your bubble and forget the basics.
Post by: alwinearcher on February 10, 2011, 06:02:18 PM
Yep,it seems like i am shooting worse since i started watching the bubble. i think my pins are adjusted for the slight cant of the bow. i still need a different grip for the bow but i am headed for bobs on saturday!You might need to adjust a little. make sure you are not putting to much thought into your bubble and forget the basics.
The bubble should in your peripheral vision, not your focal point
Post by: buck man on February 10, 2011, 06:56:38 PM
The level is a reference no different than the pins. As long as you are consistent and your pins are adjusted to your style of shooting, you're good. Now, if you held your bow out of plumb/level differently each time, it'd make a big difference. No different than not holding your pin on target each time consistently.I agree totally. I shot for years with metal pins and no bubble and had no problem killing critters. Now with a bubble on all my bows I find that I pay little attention to it. I think a consistent release, good anchor, and a non torquing grip will make you a better shot than paying attention to your bubble.... even out past 50 yards. :twocents:
Post by: alwinearcher on February 10, 2011, 06:59:36 PM
The level is a reference no different than the pins. As long as you are consistent and your pins are adjusted to your style of shooting, you're good. Now, if you held your bow out of plumb/level differently each time, it'd make a big difference. No different than not holding your pin on target each time consistently.I agree totally. I shot for years with metal pins and no bubble and had no problem killing critters. Now with a bubble on all my bows I find that I pay little attention to it. I think a consistent release, good anchor, and a non torquing grip will make you a better shot than paying attention to your bubble.... even out past 50 yards. :twocents:
Most Archers dont need a level to shoot well. Until they are shooting one a side hill, thats is when a bubble is worth its weight in gold because the sub conscious wants to level the bow to the ground.
Post by: buck man on February 10, 2011, 07:17:11 PM
That is true matt but dont we all shoot on level ground or from stands? :chuckle:The level is a reference no different than the pins. As long as you are consistent and your pins are adjusted to your style of shooting, you're good. Now, if you held your bow out of plumb/level differently each time, it'd make a big difference. No different than not holding your pin on target each time consistently.I agree totally. I shot for years with metal pins and no bubble and had no problem killing critters. Now with a bubble on all my bows I find that I pay little attention to it. I think a consistent release, good anchor, and a non torquing grip will make you a better shot than paying attention to your bubble.... even out past 50 yards. :twocents:
Most Archers dont need a level to shoot well. Until they are shooting one a side hill, thats is when a bubble is worth its weight in gold because the sub conscious wants to level the bow to the ground.
Post by: alwinearcher on February 10, 2011, 08:37:01 PM
That is true matt but dont we all shoot on level ground or from stands? :chuckle:The level is a reference no different than the pins. As long as you are consistent and your pins are adjusted to your style of shooting, you're good. Now, if you held your bow out of plumb/level differently each time, it'd make a big difference. No different than not holding your pin on target each time consistently.I agree totally. I shot for years with metal pins and no bubble and had no problem killing critters. Now with a bubble on all my bows I find that I pay little attention to it. I think a consistent release, good anchor, and a non torquing grip will make you a better shot than paying attention to your bubble.... even out past 50 yards. :twocents:
Most Archers dont need a level to shoot well. Until they are shooting one a side hill, thats is when a bubble is worth its weight in gold because the sub conscious wants to level the bow to the ground.
Thats right, I forgot that you pack a stand with you in on horse back into the eagle caps ;)
Post by: Special T on February 11, 2011, 07:41:53 AM
Post by: sakoshooter on February 11, 2011, 04:47:54 PM
The level is a reference no different than the pins. As long as you are consistent and your pins are adjusted to your style of shooting, you're good. Now, if you held your bow out of plumb/level differently each time, it'd make a big difference. No different than not holding your pin on target each time consistently.I agree totally. I shot for years with metal pins and no bubble and had no problem killing critters. Now with a bubble on all my bows I find that I pay little attention to it. I think a consistent release, good anchor, and a non torquing grip will make you a better shot than paying attention to your bubble.... even out past 50 yards. :twocents:
Agreed. I DO look at it from time to time but only a reference to adjust my form by. When I'm shootin regularly and my form is darn good, I don't even look at it. If I'm basically level(level being level - bow being plumb)+ or - and my form is good, just shoot the damn thing. If this were a rifle on a bench shooting distance, I'd put much more emphasis on it. It's not.
My Spot Hogg has a vertical wire(I like) that I've fine tuned my pins to. It's far easier to use the wire as a guide than the level simply because it's right in line with the pins and similar to a cross hair in a scope.