Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: Instinct on February 12, 2011, 09:43:45 PM
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So what type of gear ya use when out in the field to keep dry but able to shoot ur bow? Just curious cuz I didn't like the fact that I was gettin pissed on every day n the early season when chasing elk lol so thinkin bout getting a raincoat but just seeing what everyone else uses.
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I like Helly Hansen's Impertech.
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Wore an oilskin coat riding horse in the rain and wind today. A bit risky in the trees but we stayed dry. Really, for hunting I use my HPs or River's West. It can be warm in some weather but when you are sitting in the cold, wind, rain or snow it is much easier to stay out in it. Western Wa is notorious for rain so I use it on all those hunts. While hiking I stuff the jacket in my orange vest pocket ( I use an orange upland bird vest with the bird pocket in the back for carrying my coat while hiking in)
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I treat all my gear with "sport-wash" and U.V. Blocker, then after it is dry, several light coats of "Camp-Dry", it is a silicone base and has no scent after drying.
It seems to wash out/wear off (I always use "sport wash"), but really works good for a season, then I just re-apply.
That way, I hunt in clothes that I am confortable in, and dont sweat like I would wearing extra stuff.
I wear wool a lot, and change my socks/boots every chance I get, because they seem to ALWAYS be wet.
I dont mind being wet, but as I walk a lot, my feet are very important.
You would be amazed at how good it feels to put on a fresh, dry, change of socks.
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Cabelas Rain Suede. Breathes well and is 100% waterproof. Quiet in the woods also. No pockets etc in the way of shooting my bow. $100 gets it done.
Stiknstringbow - ever try Poly Pro or a similar material sock under your wool socks? They wick all moisture away from your feet. My feet always feel dry and comfortable with poly pro next to my skin and wool over
them.
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I use rivers west. Have for the past 4 or 5 years and they have always kept me dry. only thing I don't like about them is there not that breathable.
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Sweet, gotta check out them companys
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I, too have the River's West stuff. It for sure keeps you dry and warm. Does anybody else have a problem with the string hitting the River's West coat almost every time? 3 of us that hunt together all have their coats and all of us have string contact problems, so I'm guessing it's a common theme. We all know it's going to happen, so we just make sure to have an arm guard in the pocket of the coat so we have it anytime we're hunting in that coat.
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Here's what i use....Awesome product....Hey it's on sale too! :IBCOOL:
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I have a bunch of rain gear:
1. I'm pretty sure that it's going to rain all day: Cabela's MT50
2. It's raining but I don't think that it'll keep raining: Cabela's Rain Suede
3. It's probably not going to rain: Stick a Cabela's Ultrapack Space Raingear (like the size of a baseball in your pack and less than a pound)
When either rifle hunting or just hiking I don't use the Cabela's stuff at all but a set of (not camo, obviously) raingear from REI. Better built and lighter. A few companies are starting to build clothes that are as good as the (traditionally) not-made-for-hunting hiking/mountaineering clothes but not a lot and they are exhorbitantly expensive.
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Don't put your River West gear in the dryer. Shrunk mine and had to gift them to my nephew. You need to go light under the Rivers West also cause you will be cookin if you're workin.
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Staying Dry?....oh wait...you guys must be from the east side. :chuckle:
October - December there is no such thing as staying dry no matter how much money I spend on water proof gear...if I'm not getting wet, I'm probably not spending enough time in the woods. If I do find a a good water resistant set of camo, they usually only work for one or two seasons...depending on how much crab apple, evergreen huck, blackberry, slash and reprod I bust through.
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So Coastal, it sounds like you have spent a tremendous amount of time in the woods. Any good information you care to share? I am not so sure I want to spend the money for some of the rain gear that I have been looking up on-line. Way too many options also.
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So far the best I've found is military surplus gore-tex. Prior to that I would've said Oilskin. I had to recondition the gore-tex with wash in stuff. One issue if you are out all day is all the different openings which allow water in, especially around the wrist cuffs. When you raise and lowe your hands the water eventually rolls down inside and seeps up from underneath. The best solution I've found is to wear the neoprene fishing gloves--either shimano or glacier glove (the shimano ones have the thumb/index finger flip backs). The neoprene is tight enough to wear on the outside of the gore-tex to keep the water from running inside.
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Does that sport wash really work? I thought about getting it for my ski season stuff. Anyhow, I wear the Mt50 for early and late. I also pack in for over a week and if it is raining, you are gonna get wet unless you have your Hellys on. Since you can't pack it all in, I do ok with that stuff. If you bowhunt and hunt hard, you will get wet from the inside or out. Just plan on making a fire. Get the most quiet, lightweight thing you can. layer, hunt then dry.
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Cabelas Rain Suede. Breathes well and is 100% waterproof. Quiet in the woods also. No pockets etc in the way of shooting my bow. $100 gets it done.
:yeah: Got some now and it works nice, especially since it's packable.
With any rain gear that's going to keep you dry on the outside, if you're doing a lot of walking, you're going to get wet on the inside just from sweating you A** off.
My next set will be Rivers West.
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Alright ill check out those products but was also thinking bout the military gortex. Any thoughts or general expierence wth the stuff
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The light Rivers West over the latest Under Armour - and use hunters anti-perspirant on feet and underarms. If it gets really cold throw a light fleece pullover under the jacket.
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The light Rivers West over the latest Under Armour - and use hunters anti-perspirant on feet and underarms. If it gets really cold throw a light fleece pullover under the jacket.
i second that, rivers west is expensive but well worth the money and it comes with a life time warranty, you can get light weight or heavy weight, just make sure you get the style that you can unzip the armpitt, and no worrys, as for the string hitn the jacket, pin it back with duct tape"the fix all".
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Wow, am I alone? I am from Forks and have never worn rain gear or anything water repellent while hunting. If warmer weather, say Sept., I wear light and hike lots. Colder weather I will layer up in wool.
I feel like a 'tard, now, in a way, but still, as much as I hike, I just can't see me in rain gear.
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You are not alone. Unless it is raining, close to freezing and I am going to be sitting in a treestand for a couple of hours, I just wear my regular fleece hunting clothes and put up with it. I have yet to find a set of good waterproof and quiet rain gear so I just don't bother with it. I've tried all the different Cabela's variations of "quiet" rain gear (Mt 50, Rain Suede, etc) and have sent every one of them back. To me they sound like I am opening a bag of tater chips. Being quiet is more important than being snuggly warm and dry. You can't sneak up on a big buck if you are restricted in movement and your clothes are make you sound like you are wearing a tarp.
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I Thing Cabelas mt-50 is the best all around for bow hunting. Not cheap but worth the price. :twocents:
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So Coastal, it sounds like you have spent a tremendous amount of time in the woods. Any good information you care to share? I am not so sure I want to spend the money for some of the rain gear that I have been looking up on-line. Way too many options also.
Unfortunately I have no good info for staying dry on the west side, especially if you are constantly up moving through understory brush and/or brushy reprod. The only thing I've found to be a deciding factor when I choose gear for west side conditions is the resistance to tearing. For fall-winter weather I've been using Cabelas silent suede w/ dry plus (spendy). It has proven to be more durable than most other gear I've used, but water will still find it's way in after a day in wet brush. If I was to stay still or walk through open country I'm sure most products would keep me good and dry even in the worst rain.
I spend at least three days a week in wet, rugged country putting many miles on my gear while working. One thing I can say for sure is that weather proofing is temporary and we should be thankful that we only put our expensive "rain proof" hunting gear to the test for a small amount of time during the year...It would get spendy otherwise.
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Rivers West...for several years now. I have the medium weight with zippers under the arms, and the pants have zippers on the outside of the thighs for when you are walking around. I mostly sit in a tree stand in the late season. It is windproof, waterproof and stretches. I slid down a shale mountain side on my butt and legs a few back and thought for sure the pants would be ruined...not a mark on them!!!
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Anyone use sitka gear? Is it worth the $$$.
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I buy the Sitka Gear stuff when it's on sale. I have 90% pants and jacket, Mountain Pants (original and the new soft shell kind), the original Mountain Shirt and the original Celsius Vest. (All stuff labeled "original" has been updated, at least somewhat, and is probably better than mine but I still dig the stuff.) I would like to get Jetstream jacket, though.
It's good stuff and I've had good luck with it. However, I've yet to find the rain gear for the price that I want to pay, so still waiting to see if it will go on sale (with UA, Kuiu, Russel Outdoors, and now it looks like Badlands is getting in the mix hopefully the price will go down.)
The ultra-light stuff (Stormfront Lite) didn't hold up well for a friend of mine. We went to a 3d shoot a couple of years ago when the stuff just came out and went looking for an arrow and blackberry tore the crap out of the legs - little pinholes all through it - and a string slap delaminated the arm and water just blew into the coat. If I was going to get the rain gear from Sitka it would be the more heavy duty stuff - Stormfront or Coldfront. I just don't know it it's worth the outrageous price tag.
Sitka did treat him well and made it right with him, though, he just had to give them a call.
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Correction: Mine's Cabelas Dry Plus. Very quiet also.
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The same set of Rivers West gear that I shrunk also got punctured with industrial strength blackberry vines chasing after 15 elk in a reprod area. They say it is puncture proof, ha!. The Northwest and the Frostman proved them wrong. I agree with Coastal, you WILL get wet on the Westside. Expect purgatory. This ain't shopping.
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My bowhunting partner was dead set on a Rivers West such and such jacket and pant a couple months ago untill he talked to someone at their main office and was told that none it was breatheable. If you're just sitting in a stand or standing in a boat and not doing any hiking, it'd probably work fine but with all the great breateable stuff out there today, it's the only way to go for an active hunter.
Gore-Tex or similar fabric is hard to beat, period. And it's made in almost any configuration you can imagine these days.
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It is so hard to keep dry when you use Scent Lock Camo and it's raining with 80% humidity! I always struggle to stay warm if it's cold and cool when it's hot with scent lock camo if it's raining or sunny out! I am getting wet with perspiration and usually not from the rain. The type of gear that I use is waterproof and 'Breathable' and still struggle to stay dry regardless. I have not found the perfect combo for the last 25 years of hunting and especially for a bow hunter. I can never hunt with out some kind of variable do to weather. GOOD LUCK!
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Here is me last elk season on the west end OP !!! :chuckle: got skunked too :bash:
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Rivers West for me, I still have all my cabelas dry plus clothes and they work to a point, but they are no match for rivers west gear. I had it last year for the high hunt and it rained for 2 days. Thank god for good gear. I still use my dry plus when i am shed hunting, so I dont wear out my other stuff. Rivers West also has a ten year warrentee on thier gear.
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The best way to stay dry is a sunny day :P I do have a browning gor-tex jacket that I use but the rain does not bother me much. I work outdoors on the water all winter. If it really raining you will get wet so I focus on wearing clothes that will keep me warm.
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Being prior military in Washington State, I used my fair share of gortex. It kept me dry, warm, and broke the wind well. Downside, it is noisy and you can sweat really hard in it if you are on the move. For my first archery season, I bought a decent set of wet weather gear (jacket and pants) for about a hundred bucks from warehouse sports in skagit. They worked really well for the price, but I made the mistake of wearing the gear when it wasn't raining. Next season, that stuff is in my pack until I need it. Also remember, military gear is made by the lowest bidder.
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