Post by: jackelope on February 19, 2011, 12:47:42 PM
7mm magnum
300 win mag
264 win mag
458 win mag
257 weatherby
270 weatherby
7mm weatherby
350 magnum
anything off of the .375 ruger case(which these are I have no clue) including the Ruger Compact Magnums.
I narrowed it down some to the ones that interest me the most. Out of those choices, which one and why would you choose?
This will be a deer sized game rifle. I don't care too much about the cost of ammo because I don't do much plinking. I had a .257 Weatherby that I shoulda kept.
The only other stipulation to this is that it has to be a factory round. No wildcats and no handload only stuff...I don't reload.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on February 19, 2011, 01:30:52 PM
-Steve
Post by: 270Shooter on February 19, 2011, 01:55:01 PM
.....but since you said you don't want to reload I voted .270 Weatherby. I guess the .257 would good as well.
Post by: FC on February 19, 2011, 01:55:41 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 19, 2011, 02:05:28 PM
Of the list you gave I would really want the 264 or 257. They are both great gun and flat shooters. With plenty of power for deer and even larger game animals. If you are not doing much plinking then the 264 would work fine. But ammo is a little harder to find for it. But its still around. The 257 would also be a fine choice because you can find the ammo around. I am not a master of these 2 cals. But I have shot both more then a few times, and been around a 264 in the hands of a friend a lot. The only thoughts I have "which like I said I have not personally looked into" is bullet weight range. I know the 25's because of having the 25-06 I reload for. The range on bullets is not huge like mainly 90-120 grains. I like at least a 100 grain bullet myself. I don't think you could go wrong with either one, myself. there are some other great guns up there. But given what you already have these would be my pick's.
Post by: wsucowboy on February 19, 2011, 02:21:40 PM
Post by: boneaddict on February 19, 2011, 02:28:25 PM
Post by: yorketransport on February 19, 2011, 02:44:53 PM
Andrew
Post by: Bigshooter on February 19, 2011, 04:15:39 PM
I'd sell it. I hate belted cartridges!
It's going to cost some money to make it a weatherby. There is some action work that will have to be done.
Post by: steen on February 19, 2011, 04:16:14 PM
Post by: addicted on February 19, 2011, 04:31:31 PM
.244 H&H Magnum
.275 H&H Magnum*
7mm STW
.300 H&H Magnum
.300 Weatherby Magnum
8mm Remington Magnum
.340 Weatherby Magnum
.375 H&H Magnum
.375 Weatherby Magnum
.400 H&H Magnum
.416 Remington Magnum
.458 Lott
.465 H&H Magnum
and the shortened 375 casings
.257 Weatherby Magnum
.264 Winchester Magnum
.270 Weatherby Magnum
7x61 Sharpe & Hart Super*
7mm Remington Magnum
7mm Weatherby Magnum
.308 Norma Magnum
.300 Winchester Magnum
.338 Winchester Magnum
.358 Norma Magnum
.458 Winchester Magnum
I vote for either something BIG or maybe the 7x61 S&H. something a little different that you can still find a ton of bullets to choose from. then i would probably go with a 160grn partition or something. 8mmREMMAG would be cool too, but it is kind of an eccentric step sideways from the 338WM.
Post by: addicted on February 19, 2011, 04:33:23 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 19, 2011, 04:35:34 PM
A lot of those are exotic by my standards and I don't need anything exotic. I like the .257 Roy and I will likely go that way.
Oh and a few of those that you pasted there I mentioned and/or already have.
Post by: yorketransport on February 19, 2011, 04:36:48 PM
there are more options...
.244 H&H Magnum
.275 H&H Magnum*
7mm STW
.300 H&H Magnum
.300 Weatherby Magnum
8mm Remington Magnum
.340 Weatherby Magnum
.375 H&H Magnum
.375 Weatherby Magnum
.400 H&H Magnum
.416 Remington Magnum
.458 Lott
.465 H&H Magnum
and the shortened 375 casings
.257 Weatherby Magnum
.264 Winchester Magnum
.270 Weatherby Magnum
7x61 Sharpe & Hart Super*
7mm Remington Magnum
7mm Weatherby Magnum
.308 Norma Magnum
.300 Winchester Magnum
.338 Winchester Magnum
.358 Norma Magnum
.458 Winchester Magnum
I vote for either something BIG or maybe the 7x61 S&H. something a little different that you can still find a ton of bullets to choose from. then i would probably go with a 160grn partition or something. 8mmREMMAG would be cool too, but it is kind of an eccentric step sideways from the 338WM.
Using any of the full length (375 H&H) rounds will require action modifications for them to cycle through the magazine.
I voted other.
I'd sell it. I hate belted cartridges!
It's going to cost some money to make it a weatherby. There is some action work that will have to be done.
The only expense to make it a 257 Weatherby will be a new barrel. There won't be any other gunsmithing required.
Andrew
Post by: jackelope on February 19, 2011, 04:40:13 PM
I shoot a Remington Model 700 in 300 Win. Mag. and I like it alot. I can use it for most big game and don't need more than on rifle for myself. It is accurate and I know the balistics from shooting this rifle only. It just happened to be the one with the best price when my husband was looking. A 270 or 30-06 was another option but I don't the make or model. I don't have to decide what rifle I'm going to use for each species, just grab my rifle and pick the bullet and practice til I'm comfortable.
I already have a 300 win mag and a 30-06. Really don't need another .30 cal. A .270 is cool but not one that interests me much at this time. It's not really a need issue at this time....I just don't see myself using a .338 when I have a .300 especially if I don't spend much time elk hunting with a rifle. My .300 makes deer very dead.
I voted other.
I'd sell it. I hate belted cartridges!
It's going to cost some money to make it a weatherby. There is some action work that will have to be done.
What would "other" be? I'm open to suggestions. The wow factor of the .257 Roy pretty much does it for me. I was just wanting to hear if anyone had any other ideas. I don't think any action work is needed on a Savage action. Could be wrong but my research says no.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 19, 2011, 04:55:31 PM
Post by: bobcat on February 19, 2011, 04:58:51 PM
I don't know- really either cartridge would be fine. If it were me I'd go with a 270 WSM over either of those, if that's possible.
Post by: Wazukie on February 19, 2011, 05:07:21 PM
Post by: Lowedog on February 19, 2011, 06:02:54 PM
If you were to switch out the bolt to go with a non belted cartridge I would go with 25-06.
Savage rifles are fun! I have a 110 that started out as a 30-06 and I turned it into a SS heavy barrel 25-06 varmint/pronghorn/deer rifle for less than $200.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on February 19, 2011, 06:11:58 PM
You mention that the barrel swap allows the list of cartridges in your poll. But, the Savage 116 is based on the 110, which has a replaceable bolt face, No machining required. So, your only limitation is the magazine length.
If you didn't have to pay for bolt machining of the face, would you consider 7mm/08 or something that doesn't require something with such a large breechface? Your choices really are nearly endless.
-Steve
Post by: bobcat on February 19, 2011, 06:36:02 PM
He's got an Ought 6, and a 300win mag. No need for a 7rem mag at all.
I didn't realize it was about what he "needed." :)
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on February 19, 2011, 06:44:02 PM
-Steve
Post by: bobcat on February 19, 2011, 06:58:47 PM
Post by: Bofire on February 19, 2011, 08:23:14 PM
Carl
Post by: jackelope on February 19, 2011, 08:29:50 PM
I voted other because I like my 300wsm Pretty much same velocity as its big brother but less powder to get there.Short fats won't work without mods to the action...that equates to money I don't want to spend.
I voted other. If I was going to hunt the modern season again, I'd get a 7mm-08. Short action, and all the power I would need for deer sized animals. I've seen too many "older" shooters have to go in for a Detached Retina from shooting the big blasters, and at my age I don't want to risk it.Pretty sure this would require some mods too... $$ although I'm really intrigued by that round lately too...buttt.....then there's the issue of a short action round in a long action. I think I'd rather have the short round in the short action...take advantage of the weight savings via the short action. Just thinking on the screen here...
Post by: bobcat on February 19, 2011, 08:55:32 PM
Post by: yorketransport on February 19, 2011, 08:58:05 PM
Pretty sure this would require some mods too... $$ although I'm really intrigued by that round lately too...buttt.....then there's the issue of a short action round in a long action. I think I'd rather have the short round in the short action...take advantage of the weight savings via the short action. Just thinking on the screen here...
The 7mm-08 would work, and if you handloaded you could load the long heavy bullets to take advantage of the extra mag length. Since you want to run factory ammo, this is meaningless to you. And like you said, a short action round makes more sense in a short action. If I wanted a long action non-magnum 7mm I'd get a 280 Rem.
Like you said, the 7mm-08 would require some extra modifications. Granted a complete bolt head is only about $40, and the magazine box and follower are another $20. Heck, I have all the parts that you need sitting in a drawer out in my garage right now, including a 7mm-08 barrel. But it wouldn't be as cool as a 257 Weatherby! :IBCOOL: Go Weatherby and never look back! :tup:
Andrew
Post by: Bluemoon on February 19, 2011, 09:15:44 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 19, 2011, 09:28:27 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on February 19, 2011, 09:51:02 PM
-Steve
Post by: dirty24d on February 19, 2011, 10:02:44 PM
Post by: Harold on February 19, 2011, 10:17:29 PM
Post by: FC on February 19, 2011, 11:08:18 PM
Post by: 50CalJim on February 19, 2011, 11:16:29 PM
Post by: Lowedog on February 20, 2011, 08:21:40 AM
Sell it and buy an AR! :chuckle: :IBCOOL: :chuckle::yeah:
-Steve
Post by: Curly on February 20, 2011, 09:09:46 AM
Post by: yorketransport on February 20, 2011, 09:27:40 AM
FWIW if you are interested in a 7mm 08 it wouldn't require any mods, it's just a necked down .308 Win and the weight difference between short and long action isn't really that much.
He's starting with a 338 Win Mag, so he would need to change the bolt face and magzine box/follower to shoot the 7mm-08.
Andrew
Post by: Curly on February 20, 2011, 10:05:15 AM
A 7 Mag shouldn't kick "a lot more" than a 300 Mag. Probably pretty close if you're comparing similar bullet weights. Is the 270 WSM an option? (or 7mm WSM)
But it would likely kick more because the new 7mag barrel would not have a brake on it and his 300 WM does have a break on it. (But then the Savage probably weighs more than the TC, so that might help even out the recoil issue)............ :dunno:
Post by: jackelope on February 20, 2011, 08:56:40 PM
Post by: Jamieb on February 20, 2011, 09:57:15 PM
Good selection of factory ammo available everywhere, fast and flat 120's through high BC 160's to heavy 175'.
A realy good all around cartridge, if a future (any big game in any state) hunt comes along, your ready.
Post by: sakoshooter on February 21, 2011, 12:00:09 AM
Isn't it time for you to start another thread?
Post by: jackelope on February 21, 2011, 07:17:32 AM
7 Rem Mag.
Good selection of factory ammo available everywhere, fast and flat 120's through high BC 160's to heavy 175'.
A realy good all around cartridge, if a future (any big game in any state) hunt comes along, your ready.
While I don't disagree with that, I already have a 300 win mag so feel I'm pretty ready either way.
:dunno:
Jackelope,Something will come up, I'm sure.
Isn't it time for you to start another thread?
:chuckle:
Post by: gasman on February 21, 2011, 08:13:17 AM
From deer to yotes, its a good gun.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 21, 2011, 08:31:47 AM
Sell it and buy an AR! :chuckle: :IBCOOL: :chuckle:Ok JackOfAllTrades what are the advantages of an AR over a .300 winmag? This might surprise alot of people but I really don't like to target shoot. I love to hunt though, and guns are really just a tool to use. Two exceptions trap, and small bore rimfire. I only have one hunting rifle, you guessed it my trusty .300 winmag featherweight SS. And yes I am not savy to all the different calibers I see being talked about here, but am learning a ton of stuff from all the good gun topics.
-Steve
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 21, 2011, 08:40:31 AM
Post by: Curly on February 21, 2011, 08:47:55 AM
Post by: jackelope on February 21, 2011, 10:30:32 AM
Ackley cartridges probably haven't been mentioned since Jackelope doesn't reload.
Curly's good...don't mess with him.
I wish I reloaded sometimes...one of these days I will. I would really like to entertain the idea of one of these "exotic" wildcats one of these days but at this time I don't have time or room for it. Once I have an established "dude room" where I can set all this stuff up, I'll likely start reloading....and tying flies and jigs and whatever other stuff I don't currently do that I could/should be doing.
Post by: 6x6in6 on February 21, 2011, 10:37:46 AM
Of your listed choices I'd do the 257 Wby.
I'd choose the 270 Win 1st then 25-06 just for the simple price of the shelf ammo.
Post by: blmathis12 on February 21, 2011, 01:09:24 PM
Post by: hokey97 on February 21, 2011, 02:37:41 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on February 21, 2011, 03:38:23 PM
Would have said 7mm RM burt since you already have the 300 WM and being as their so close.......
Of your listed choices I'd do the 257 Wby.
I'd choose the 270 Win 1st then 25-06 just for the simple price of the shelf ammo.
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Posted by: hokey97
270 win not bad kick but still power
Josh, if you're willing to rebarrel, then add the cost of that and any bolt face machining or parts replacement required. Now, if it's not a wildcat that you need to reload for, but rather a factory round plentiful off the shelves, then does it make sense to rebarrel, or just sell it and buy a factory built gun in that cal? Its one thing if you were building a 6mm BRx for sage rats at 600yds.
And don't get me wrong; I love the 270win. I was sizing shells for one just last night.
That said, if you want something to be a backup to the 300 you have now. Something to fill a gap in what you have now. Something a bit more unique that just not everyone has, the 257 Roy stands out as something that fits each billing. (I know, you said you weren't looking to fill a gap or as a backup)
But only for someone that reloads. Have you priced that stuff?
You might think about selling it and buy some reloading equipment. You have some new hand guns. You have some rifles... I don't know how much you shoot throughout the year, but if you reloaded, you can save money for everything you shoot. (yes, I know. I've preached that reloading as a hobby isn't to save money, but to create custom concoctions, but it is possible to cut a bunch of costs if you do it smartly)
-Steve
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 21, 2011, 04:13:44 PM