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Title: Possible restrictions - Saltwater Waterfowl hunting in Thurston County
Post by: bobcat on February 23, 2011, 09:24:54 AM
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Marine hunting restrictions?

Thurston County: Proposed rules would limit hunting within 300 yards of shorelines

NATE HULINGS; Staff writer | • Published February 23, 2011

Hunters in marine waters off Thurston County shores may soon have to think twice before pulling the trigger.

After holding several community meetings over the past two years and hearing safety concerns from residents who live near saltwater, the county has rolled out a proposed ordinance that would restrict the discharge of firearms within 300 yards of marine shorelines and entire lower sections of Henderson and Eld inlets.


While the county has about 40 no-shooting or controlled-shooting zones, currently there are no restrictions on marine waters, except for a portion of lower Eld Inlet, said county senior planner Robert Smith.


The county is holding a meeting Thursday to discuss the proposed regulations and expects to hear from both sides. A public hearing will likely take place this spring.


It’s an issue Thurston County commission chair Karen Valenzuela has been working on since joining the board and says she is very willing to hear suggestions and concerns from all sides.


“This is the starting point for the conversation,” she said.


Some residents along Henderson Inlet are applauding the proposed regulations.


Steve Albrecht, who has seen duck hunters fire shotguns within 20 yards of his Swayne Drive property, said the new restrictions put him more at ease than previous proposals and believes the ordinance is not inherently anti-hunting.


“We have to balance safety needs and traditional uses of the waters,” he said.


His neighbor, Tom Terry, is a hunter and says the area has become too residential for hunting and that people have come onto his property to hunt. Under the proposed regulations, the water off Terry’s property would be off limits for hunters.


“I would never set up (to hunt) in a neighborhood or residential area,” he said of his own hunting preferences. “I get away – you get out where it’s really conducive for shooting.”


The shooting buffer along shorelines coincides with the firing range of shotguns, according to the ordinance.


However, not everyone in the neighborhood sees the danger.


Gerald Pumphrey, who lives off Swayne Drive Northeast, wrote to the county saying he doesn’t think hunting waterfowl in the area is inherently unsafe.


“While I respect the views of my friends and neighbors and their right to advance their position, I have not personally observed hunting behavior that caused me to feel threatened or unduly disturbed,” he wrote.


Brian Kraemer, who lives in Kent, has hunted in county inlets and calls the proposal ludicrous, noting that the county houses Cabela’s, a major retail location for hunters, while simultaneously restricting hunting activity.


“The open waters of the Puget Sound is public property,” he said. “Just because you have a view of it doesn’t mean you can dictate what goes on in it.”


He also called the safety concerns “silly,” saying that residents just don’t like the noise and are anti-hunting.


State law allows counties to restrict shooting where there is a reasonable likelihood that humans, domestic animals, or property will be jeopardized, according to language in the proposed ordinance.


Despite the safety concerns voiced by some living near the water, there have been no reports of injury as a result of hunters firing weapons in the inlets, Smith said.


One compromise Kraemer proposes is restricting firing toward land within the area but allowing gunfire in open water.


Others question why all hunters are being punished for the actions of a few.


In an e-mail to the county, Ken Boyer of Redmond said his family has been safely hunting for decades and believes that the actions of a few unsafe hunters should not cut off all hunting along Thurston County shores. Boyer recently joined a local hunting club and has hunted in the Nisqually area.


The ordinance also adds new no shooting zones within the urban growth area and residential areas with higher densities, Smith said.


Nate Hulings: 360-754-5476 nhulings@theolympian.com www.theolympian.com/outsideoly (http://www.theolympian.com/outsideoly)



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Title: Re: Possible restrictions - Saltwater Waterfowl hunting in Thurston County
Post by: bobcat on February 23, 2011, 09:27:06 AM
Some additional information regarding a public meeting TOMORROW night! (nice they give people an entire day's notice, huh?)   :bash:

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Community meeting

The Board of County Commissioners is holding a community meeting to discuss the proposed no-shooting zone ordinance from 7 to 9 p.m. Thursday at the Thurston County Courthouse, 2000 Lakeridge Drive S.W., Building 1, Room 152. Representatives from the Thurston County Sheriff’s Office and GeoData will also be on hand to discuss policies, answer questions and take feedback.

For a map of the proposed no-shooting zones, go to www.co.thurston.wa.us/bocc (http://www.co.thurston.wa.us/bocc). Links to the proposed ordinance and a map are at the bottom of the page.
Title: Re: Possible restrictions - Saltwater Waterfowl hunting in Thurston County
Post by: wa.hunter on February 24, 2011, 12:29:57 PM
Due to weather meeting has been cancelled for tonight and rescheduled for March 1, 2011 in the Thurston County courthouse Building 1 room 152. 7-9pm. This is nothing more than a noise complaint issue that turned into a public safety issue. WDFW enforcement testified that there has never been a single safety issue filed in the past or called in. Also testified they would not have anyone available to respond if there was a complaint filed. There are 2 commissioners that were handling it Romero and Valensuela. Romero seemed very easy to work with, however Valensuela seemed dumber than a stump and now seems to be in charge of it. What was agreed upon at he last meeting is definitely not how it is wrote up now. There will be individuals down there testifing, that will be dressed in camo and pretending to be hunters yet claiming how unsafe it is. If this type of thing continues county by county you might as well forget about hunting in this state. You need to show up and be heard.
Title: Re: Possible restrictions - Saltwater Waterfowl hunting in Thurston County
Post by: sakoshooter on February 24, 2011, 01:21:32 PM
My duck hunting partner made me aware of this a few weeks ago and YES, it is very SERIOUS folks.
Click on the link that Bobcat posted and take a look at the HUGE amount of area that will become unhuntable if we do no voice our opposition to this.
Looking at the Nisqually Delta, most of it will become non-huntable(no shooting). Folks, this is a huge waterfowl area and the loss of it will devaste duck/goose huntes in western WA. Plus the ramifications from it will eventually transfer to every other similar areas across WA. It won't be long before all of western WA will be off limits to hunting/shooting.
Even if you don't hunt waterfowl folks, this affects you.
Title: Re: Possible restrictions - Saltwater Waterfowl hunting in Thurston County
Post by: bobcat on February 24, 2011, 01:49:32 PM
Here's a direct link to the map:  

http://www.co.thurston.wa.us/bocc/docs/No%20Shooting%20Zone/Controlled%20Shooting%20Breakdown%20Current%20and%20Options.pdf (http://www.co.thurston.wa.us/bocc/docs/No%20Shooting%20Zone/Controlled%20Shooting%20Breakdown%20Current%20and%20Options.pdf)
Title: Re: Possible restrictions - Saltwater Waterfowl hunting in Thurston County
Post by: bobcat on February 24, 2011, 02:33:13 PM
sakoshooter is right. This will take away most if not all of the waterfowl hunting at the Nisqually Delta.  :yike:

I don't think there were any complaints about people shooting in that area, yet they want to make it a no hunting zone. This is obviously the work of anti-hunters. It's surely not being done as a safety issue. I'll be writing a letter tonight.
Title: Re: Possible restrictions - Saltwater Waterfowl hunting in Thurston County
Post by: Curly on February 24, 2011, 02:59:55 PM
 :bash:  I'm glad the meeting got postponed til March.  I may be able to go to it then, and maybe a bunch more duck hunters will be able to get there since there will be more notice now.  I really didn't want to go, but now that I see what they are talking about I'm really pissed.  I thought it was just a small area near the homes.......and although I didn't like what they were wanting to do, I really didn't pay much mind to it. (Hate to admit it).

I really don't duck hunt anymore, but I'd like to get back into it in the future.  If they displace all the delta hunters, then all the spots I like will be more crowded.....this blows. >:(  (300yd marine buffier is a bunch of b.s.)
Title: Re: Possible restrictions - Saltwater Waterfowl hunting in Thurston County
Post by: sakoshooter on February 25, 2011, 01:29:56 PM
I just talked to my duck huntin partner, we're gonna try to make the meeting.
Those of you that cannot make the meeting, please send an email to philip.anderson@dfw.wa.gov
Title: Re: Possible restrictions - Saltwater Waterfowl hunting in Thurston County
Post by: sakoshooter on February 28, 2011, 10:18:29 PM
Who from this board is going to this meeting tomorrow?
Title: Re: Possible restrictions - Saltwater Waterfowl hunting in Thurston County
Post by: bobcat on March 01, 2011, 11:33:43 AM
I won't be at the meeting but I did write a letter last night.

If anyone has time to write a letter, comments are supposed to go here:  smithr@co.thurston.wa.us

The meeting is at the Thurson County Courthouse from 7 to 9 pm.  (TONIGHT)

Title: Re: Possible restrictions - Saltwater Waterfowl hunting in Thurston County
Post by: sakoshooter on March 01, 2011, 11:51:41 AM
I sent an email also Bobcat.
This is nothing more than a bunch of waterfront property owners trying to ban hunting in these areas and if it passes, God forbid, it will start happening all across WA. X your fingers.
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