Hunting Washington Forum
Other Hunting => Turkey Hunting => Topic started by: yelp on February 25, 2011, 06:22:25 PM
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I thought this would be interesting..because we all hunt a little different and we all have different levels of expertise and success. What is your best "legal" tip or tactic to being successful in tagging a longbeard!
My best advice is if you can't bring a tom in close enough in the AM, try him later. I personally have killed a lot of toms around lunch time! :)
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As important as it is learning what call to use, and when to use it - it is MORE IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHEN TO SHUT UP!!!!!
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If you want to kill the old toms with big spurs I have found the best way is to pattern them and catch them coming from or going to their roost, or in one of their strut zones.
Seems like most of the Toms I have called in and killed have been 2 year old birds. :twocents:
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If I get a bird that hangs up, I will start calling as I move, will go about 250 yards then call a bit and then get off the calls and watch and wait.
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As soon as you get board and decide that the bird you are working is not coming in...give it 30 more minutes.
Tried calling my dad a bird in for 3 years. He would get board and leave to walk around. 30 minutes later I kill the bird.
Finally got him to sit still last year and got him one.
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If you want to kill the old toms with big spurs I have found the best way is to pattern them and catch them coming from or going to their roost, or in one of their strut zones.
Seems like most of the Toms I have called in and killed have been 2 year old birds. :twocents:
:yeah: X2 I have more sucess patterning the big boss toms then trying to call them in.
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The most fun is getting out before daylight, hearing them on roost and attempting to call in, also not real productive. When it happens it is great.
I have gotten the most gobblers between 10:am and 2:pm. Keep calling to no oftener than every 15 minutes.
Scout, hunt where there are old birds, If you do not want little gobblers don't shoot them. Stay with it until you get a old bird in.
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Any movement when the bird is getting close, is a killer to closing the deal. If you have new or inexperienced hunters (i.e. young hunters) with you, look for a setup location that offers some concealment. Don't make the mistake of not having some shooting lanes however.
Have the gun or bow up before the bird shows himself and be ready if at all possible for your opportunity. Ground or half blinds help conceal small movements. Building a ground blind near stategic locations is also helpful if you can do it a few days or weeks ahead of your hunt.
And have fun. Just enjoy getting out there ....... it is the best time of year to be in the woods.
Yelp, am i penalized for having more than one suggestion ..... now if I would just follow my own advise and not get the yips when they suddenly gobble right in your face! And that takes us to shooting accurately under pressure! :chuckle:
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Scout,scout,scout, set up where they want to be. Learn how to use several calls... Dont call to much...
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Scout,scout,scout, set up where they want to be. Learn how to use several calls... Dont call to much...
Sounds like a good plan to me.
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Scout,scout,scout, set up where they want to be. Learn how to use several calls... Dont call to much...
What No Squeal? :chuckle:
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Don't wait until the last day "before season" to start trying to find the birds. Spread out and look for diffrent bunches of birds early. Beacause not matter how hard you try. You can't kill birds if they are not in the area. Also look for natural travel paths. Like between canyons. They like to use the easy path of travel most of the time. I have killed more then one bird. By setting up in areas I know the birds will want to cross at.
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Go in the middle of the week when everyone else is working.
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I like to follow Al around. He scouts a lot so there are always lots of birds around him. So my advice is to find someone with more birds then they know what to do with and spy on them. Let them hunt the area and warm up the birds, wait for them to leave and sneak in and wait for them to come looking for him. Easy as pie.
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I like to follow Al around. He scouts a lot so there are always lots of birds around him. So my advice is to find someone with more birds then they know what to do with and spy on them. Let them hunt the area and warm up the birds, wait for them to leave and sneak in and wait for them to come looking for him. Easy as pie.
This is one of the best tips so far! :chuckle: :chuckle:
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I like to follow Al around. He scouts a lot so there are always lots of birds around him. So my advice is to find someone with more birds then they know what to do with and spy on them. Let them hunt the area and warm up the birds, wait for them to leave and sneak in and wait for them to come looking for him. Easy as pie.
This the the best tips so far! :chuckle: :chuckle:
that sounds about ideal :chuckle: :chuckle:
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I have never hunted them But damn it I am going to one of these years until then I will read your guys tips :hello:
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My best advice to ya is to pattern your shotgun. Find the best GUN/CHOKE/SHELL combination. If you have great results with your first combination good for you but if you dont, dont use that combination.
Im shootin the 20ga this year and picked up a box of hevi 13 mag blend so when it warms up I will be testing them babies out, really like to use them so hopfully I dont have to buy a few more chokes.
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Don't wait until the last day "before season" to start trying to find the birds. Spread out and look for diffrent bunches of birds early. Beacause not matter how hard you try. You can't kill birds if they are not in the area. Also look for natural travel paths. Like between canyons. They like to use the easy path of travel most of the time. I have killed more then one bird. By setting up in areas I know the birds will want to cross at.
So when do you start to scout? I wouldn't imagine to try that a day or so before the season. But if a guy finds sign and birds say, 2-3 weeks before would it be reasonable to still find them in the same area? :dunno:
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Western Washington Eastern tip...................you needed to start scouting and looking two weeks ago....and continue in earnest.....and don't give up....burn that shoe leather....forget hearing them, look for droppings....they are your friend. :twocents:
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:yeah: :yeah:
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I have never hunted them But damn it I am going to one of these years until then I will read your guys tips :hello:
i'm in the same boat. i almosy hunted them last spring, but drove around with my wife and kid for 2 day looking out the car windows at TONS of turkeys, and yes i did have a tag in my pocket. :bash: :chuckle:
it was pretty fun though
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I have never hunted them But damn it I am going to one of these years until then I will read your guys tips :hello:
i'm in the same boat. i almosy hunted them last spring, but drove around with my wife and kid for 2 day looking out the car windows at TONS of turkeys, and yes i did have a tag in my pocket. :bash: :chuckle:
it was pretty fun though
If I ever get to work we will have to take our virgin asses to the hills and smoke some ;) I think I know a place to go ;)
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Patience, Patience and more patience. Don't be afraid to wait em out. I'm getting older and could'nt "run and gun em" even if I wanted, but for me, patterning the birds and then waiting them out is the key. Sit down, hide up and wait for them to come to you. Call sparingly and keep your eyes open, be ready to shoot when that red head suddenly pops into view.
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I like to follow Al around. He scouts a lot so there are always lots of birds around him. So my advice is to find someone with more birds then they know what to do with and spy on them. Let them hunt the area and warm up the birds, wait for them to leave and sneak in and wait for them to come looking for him. Easy as pie.
This the the best tips so far! :chuckle: :chuckle:
that sounds about ideal :chuckle: :chuckle:
Crap,
I gotta get a new truck no one knows before season roles around :IBCOOL: :chuckle:
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If I can find a turkey then it ups my odds. So I guess the best tip is to find the turks. Go to a place where harvest odds are high or where you have seen turkeys before.
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I like to follow Al around. He scouts a lot so there are always lots of birds around him. So my advice is to find someone with more birds then they know what to do with and spy on them. Let them hunt the area and warm up the birds, wait for them to leave and sneak in and wait for them to come looking for him. Easy as pie.
This the the best tips so far! :chuckle: :chuckle:
that sounds about ideal :chuckle: :chuckle:
Crap,
I gotta get a new truck no one knows before season roles around :IBCOOL: :chuckle:
I ruined a great little piece of public land this way. My buddy was filming turkey hunting and we drove his truck that is covered in sponsor decals to this spot. The next day there were 3 rigs parked there when I had basically hunted it for years and only seen a couple of occasional hunters.
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I like to follow Al around. He scouts a lot so there are always lots of birds around him. So my advice is to find someone with more birds then they know what to do with and spy on them. Let them hunt the area and warm up the birds, wait for them to leave and sneak in and wait for them to come looking for him. Easy as pie.
This the the best tips so far! :chuckle: :chuckle:
that sounds about ideal :chuckle: :chuckle:
Crap,
I gotta get a new truck no one knows before season roles around :IBCOOL: :chuckle:
I ruined a great little piece of public land this way. My buddy was filming turkey hunting and we drove his truck that is covered in sponsor decals to this spot. The next day there were 3 rigs parked there when I had basically hunted it for years and only seen a couple of occasional hunters.
THis is how I roll! Gott to blend in! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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I like to follow Al around. He scouts a lot so there are always lots of birds around him. So my advice is to find someone with more birds then they know what to do with and spy on them. Let them hunt the area and warm up the birds, wait for them to leave and sneak in and wait for them to come looking for him. Easy as pie.
This the the best tips so far! :chuckle: :chuckle:
that sounds about ideal :chuckle: :chuckle:
Crap,
I gotta get a new truck no one knows before season roles around :IBCOOL: :chuckle:
I ruined a great little piece of public land this way. My buddy was filming turkey hunting and we drove his truck that is covered in sponsor decals to this spot. The next day there were 3 rigs parked there when I had basically hunted it for years and only seen a couple of occasional hunters.
Yep, gotta have the old crapper rig that no one recognizes.
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I like to follow Al around. He scouts a lot so there are always lots of birds around him. So my advice is to find someone with more birds then they know what to do with and spy on them. Let them hunt the area and warm up the birds, wait for them to leave and sneak in and wait for them to come looking for him. Easy as pie.
They don't call you Sneakyjake for nothing my friend ... I could just pull up another gobble lounger for you. :dunno:
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I like to follow Al around. He scouts a lot so there are always lots of birds around him. So my advice is to find someone with more birds then they know what to do with and spy on them. Let them hunt the area and warm up the birds, wait for them to leave and sneak in and wait for them to come looking for him. Easy as pie.
They don't call you Sneakyjake for nothing my friend ... I could just pull up another gobble lounger for you. :dunno:
Al please explain! LOL Gobble lounger..I may want one too! Unless its bad! :chuckle:
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$30 lounge type chair that sits pretty low to the ground and is so comfortable you could actually fall to sleep in it (not that I will ever admit to doing so). Only draw back is that it's about 4 lbs, so if going a long distance it will seem that it weighs 10 lbs by the time you get there ..... you can see it in the Cabelas catalog. I love the thing ... :twocents:
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My tip is if a bird is hung up at 100 yards or 200 yards or whatever and you can't see it.. Don't be afraid to close the distance. Slowly move up 25 yards while glassing. Get set up again and call.. If he is still hung up or moving away.. Move again. I've been successful by being mobile. It would be cool to set up in exactly the right spot and call a bird right in to where you want him like on TV but it rarely seems to happen that way.
Like others have said.. The natural travel path is key. Quite often a bird is talking but not willing to come in as he has another agenda. If you can determine where they are going and get in front of them somewhat and get their attention, they tend to be more willing to vere off their path a few feet to come inspect what you are vs. making a 90 degree turn in the woods and coming to your call in my experiences.
Also, just because your favorite mouth call sounds great to you it doesn't mean a turkey will like it. Have a few calls in your arsenal and don't be afraid to use one that doesn't sound great to you but it may get the birds fired up! First bird I ever killed, called him in with a TERRIBLE sounding push button call that sounded like finger nails on a chalk board to me but the Tom was in love!
Excited to see everyone's pics of their birds next month!!!
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I tend to move a lot while calling. Once I get a response I'll usually give another call to see how he reacts....if he's hot I'll close the distance to where I feel comfortable that I'm not going to get busted, then call him in.
Here's a tip....don't plant your shooting shoulder against a tree. They are not very forgiving and you take ALL the recoil. The rest of the turkeys just heard a bang followed by "son of a bitch". :chuckle:
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If you want to kill the old toms with big spurs I have found the best way is to pattern them and catch them coming from or going to their roost, or in one of their strut zones.
Seems like most of the Toms I have called in and killed have been 2 year old birds. :twocents:
I'll one up that, While you sit in your ground blind attempting to throw sticks at the turkeys, I'll sneak up and blow its head off with my shotgun. Alwine this is Thor btw. :P
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Man there are so many things I have learne over the year. If I had to chose the BEST tip it would be to try and roost the tom the night before. That first crack at him off the roost has been my best times.
That is one of the best way that I have shot most of my bird. I'll but them to bed the night be for with a few little tree yelps within 75 yard to 100 yard of the tom. Then move in a hour be for day light to make sure the bird haven't jump roost and find the spot you were the night be-for and set up. I let the tom do the first gobble at light then I start out soft to see how likes it then get aggressive.
This really seems like if works for me. 60%+ of my bird I have been shot like this. Some guys say not to get that close but I have never spooked birds off there roost.
Scout, scout, scout if you have a chance to scout early find there roosting area and there fly down area and were they go at after light 90% of the time they will fly down in the same area. Scouting is the key to hunt turkeys. Be safe out there this spring.
What ever you do don't follow phantom out :chuckle: :chuckle: :hello:
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What ever you do don't follow phantom out
Thanks for the heads up! :chuckle:
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Hey Master Gobbler Slayer, I don't get it ..... I'm usually following you into the dark and scary woods at o dark thirty! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Hey Born to Yelp, Whats wrong with getting the yips as long as I am at the end of the line??? :dunno:
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If you are talking to a tom that won't close the distance, shut up and sit still (better yet, shut up after he shuts up, bitch should always get the last word). Then, endure the torture of sitting still and silent for an hour. I've shot more than one tom sneaking in after all the calling was done. Use a watch, otherwise you won't believe it hasn't been an hour yet.
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If you are talking to a tom that won't close the distance, shut up and sit still (better yet, shut up after he shuts up, bitch should always get the last word). Then, endure the torture of sitting still and silent for an hour. I've shot more than one tom sneaking in after all the calling was done. Use a watch, otherwise you won't believe it hasn't been an hour yet.
The game....it what I live for! :) Check mate!
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If you are talking to a tom that won't close the distance, shut up and sit still (better yet, shut up after he shuts up, bitch should always get the last word). Then, endure the torture of sitting still and silent for an hour. I've shot more than one tom sneaking in after all the calling was done. Use a watch, otherwise you won't believe it hasn't been an hour yet.
The game....it what I live for! :) Check mate!
You wouldn't believe how many times I have counted backwards from 5000 to zero. I do this so I won't be moving checking a watch every few minutes.
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If you are talking to a tom that won't close the distance, shut up and sit still (better yet, shut up after he shuts up, bitch should always get the last word). Then, endure the torture of sitting still and silent for an hour. I've shot more than one tom sneaking in after all the calling was done. Use a watch, otherwise you won't believe it hasn't been an hour yet.
The game....it what I live for! :) Check mate!
You wouldn't believe how many times I have counted backwards from 5000 to zero. I do this so I won't be moving checking a watch every few minutes.
That works! I lay the watch on the ground near my left knee, face-up, so I can glance at it w/o moving. And yes, I have left a cheap watch or two in the field!
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I once had patterned a couple of nice Merriam longbeard andd they usually would end up in a spring area up on this mountain. So I snuck in there and the weather changed for the worse. I hunkered under a tree and waited and waited. I waited almost 8 hours..I just knew them birds were going to show up but they never did...so I decided to call it and I walk out to grab the decoy look down the open ridge...there is a strutting tom looking right at me at 80 yards. He takes off..BUSTED! ARRGGHH..5 more minutes he would have been mine. So sometimes patience is the key but the unknown is how much is required. :)
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Your best tip would to not do what I do.. I have called in Toms for lots of guys never myself. Last year three different times I was working birds and I watch this Yahoo crawling down the ridge to my right to cut the bird off from me. He shoots the bird knowing full I was there. And also I was working a bird and just as I see it. Boom some guy from behind me starts blazing away.
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Find private land with turkeys and get permission to hunt it....
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Your best tip would to not do what I do.. I have called in Toms for lots of guys never myself. Last year three different times I was working birds and I watch this Yahoo crawling down the ridge to my right to cut the bird off from me. He shoots the bird knowing full I was there. And also I was working a bird and just as I see it. Boom some guy from behind me starts blazing away.
Elk Crazy, Unfortunately this type of unsportsmanship is becoming all too common in some popular turkey hunting areas. It even happens on posted private land! :yike:
Only thing we can do is teach our new hunters properly in ethics and call the poaching hotline if we see anyone blatantly breaking the law. To many folks are focusing only on the kill and bragging rights, instead of enjoying the whole hunting experience and treating others with due respect.
And Crazy Elk, Maybe you should stick to just chasing elk????? Just kidding!! :rolleyes:
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The safety issue is one big rason I won't hunt public land on a weekend.
How about this tip. Don't shoot Jakes. They are easy as pie to kill and they can't get big if you shoot yearling birds.
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I like to sit under the roost and shoot them at daybreak :dunno: That's how I roll!!!
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I like to sit under the roost and shoot them at daybreak :dunno: That's how I roll!!!
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I like to sit under the roost and shoot them at daybreak :dunno: That's how I roll!!!
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Wow. Do you even use a call
Really :bdid:
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:bdid: :yike: