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Title: PUPPIES!!
Post by: luvtohnt on February 27, 2011, 12:31:42 PM
New puppies
Brandon
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Post by: Machias on February 27, 2011, 01:27:33 PM
Nice, all black ones?  No yellow? 
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Post by: singleshot12 on February 27, 2011, 01:37:34 PM
Good lookin mom and litter!  She must of been bred by a choc. to produce all black right  :dunno:  I've always wondered what it took to produce all chocolate?
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Post by: luvtohnt on February 27, 2011, 02:37:27 PM
No the dad is a black, but the grandfather on the dads side was a chocolate. I was surprised that there were no yellow ones either.

Brandon
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Post by: Ireland Farms on February 27, 2011, 05:22:32 PM
Congratulations! The reason for all blacks is most likely that the dad wasn't yellow factored.
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Post by: huntlakewood on February 28, 2011, 05:53:43 AM
Very Cute
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Post by: sisu on February 28, 2011, 10:10:52 AM
Your gal looks like she could be my male's twin.
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Post by: Annette on February 28, 2011, 10:40:30 AM
Nice litter!
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Post by: Hornseeker on February 28, 2011, 11:15:49 AM
Good looking girl there!! Congrats!
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Post by: huntergreg on February 28, 2011, 11:46:54 AM
Congrats on the pups. Funny we both had litters on the same day.
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Post by: ladyelkslayer on March 02, 2011, 04:54:51 PM
No the dad is a black, but the grandfather on the dads side was a chocolate. I was surprised that there were no yellow ones either.

It has to do with the color of the nose....if it is a black nose, and bred with a black, and there is a chocolate gene in the family history, it will throw all 3 colors, or thats what my vet told me

Very cute pups! have fun with 'em! :)
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Post by: huntergreg on March 02, 2011, 05:22:34 PM
My lab was out of a litter with black parents. She is black but all 6 other pups in the same litter were yellow.  Kinda weird how that happens.
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Post by: WRL on March 03, 2011, 08:43:08 PM
No the dad is a black, but the grandfather on the dads side was a chocolate. I was surprised that there were no yellow ones either.

It has to do with the color of the nose....if it is a black nose, and bred with a black, and there is a chocolate gene in the family history, it will throw all 3 colors, or thats what my vet told me

Very cute pups! have fun with 'em! :)

That's not accurate. It has NOTHING to do with color of the nose. It has EVERYTHING to do with how the dog is "color factored".

A yellow bred to a black with no yellow recessive gene, will produce all black pups. A yellow bred to a black dog with a recessive yellow gene will "statistically" produce 50% yellow pups and 50% black pups (that's an average over several litters. any one litter can be skewed one direction or the other).

Think of it like humans with blue eyes. If you have blue eyes and your spouse has blue eyes, all your children will have blue eyes. If you have blue eyes but your spouse has brown eyes with no chance of having any blue recessive gene, all your children will have brown eyes.

A yellow lab bred to a yellow lab will only give you yellow pups. A chocolate lab bred to a chocolate lab will only give you chocolates EXCEPT if both dogs are yellow factored. Then you might end up with a yellow but the rest of the pups will be chocolate.

If you go to vetgen.com, there is a punnett square which will tell you the "odds" for different combinations.

WRL
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Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 04, 2011, 01:09:17 PM
No the dad is a black, but the grandfather on the dads side was a chocolate. I was surprised that there were no yellow ones either.

It has to do with the color of the nose....if it is a black nose, and bred with a black, and there is a chocolate gene in the family history, it will throw all 3 colors, or thats what my vet told me

Very cute pups! have fun with 'em! :)

Your vet must be color blind :chuckle:
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