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Title: Chinese mafia rakes in millions from 'Puget Sound gold'
Post by: dirty24d on February 28, 2011, 11:55:21 AM
 Another exmaple of our natural resources being pillaged..  Its time to drop the hammer on these people before its too late.  I'm talking about  drastic  measures such as revoking offenders rights to even travel on watercraft in the puget sound. Playing nice and being soft on scum with minor fines and probation doesnt work, and by the time its figured out we will have nothing left..  :bash: :bash:





A state wildlife officer scans the waters of Puget Sound on the lookout for poachers who illegally harvest geoducks, raking in millions of dollars.
An underwater gold mine exists off the shores of Puget Sound.

It centers on a bizarre-looking clam which brings a top dollar of $168 a pound.

With millions at stake, sources tell the Problem Solvers there's no shortage of shady divers, criminal middle men and organized crime, including the Chinese mafia.

On a recent, serene day on Puget Sound, agents with the state Department of Fish and Wildlife approach a group of boats just off Blake Island.

Officer Erik Olson peers through binoculars, "just trying to find that monitor boat, I think it's right in the middle," he says as he steers his boat closer. The Problem Solvers are accompanying the Fish & Wildlife agents as they do a "drive-by" to check:

• Who's on the water ...

• Who's diving ...

• And who's harvesting geoduck.

The bizarre, giant clam that can bring in fast money.

At a Tacoma warehouse, workers separate the day's harvest of lower grade geoduck. The real money is in a pallet of nearby cold pack boxes. Inside are top grade geoducks, called either "number ones" or "A's". They'll retail at $168 a pound in China.

For the lucky, smart, and in some cases criminal geoduck harvesters - geoducks mean millions.

"It's very similar to what you would see with drug cartels," says Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife Captain Ed Volz, "except these are clams ... big ugly clams worth a lot of money."

In Asia - particularly China - geoduck is a prized delicacy. And here, both law enforcement and a convicted poacher and geoduck insider tell me the Chinese mafia controls much of the market.

"But you cannot move a second, an inch either way," says the convicted poacher, "without contact from a mafia."

And perhaps the largest percentage of marketable geoduck in the world - is right here in Puget Sound.

"We know that in fact organized crime money is being funneled to companies in the continental United States," says Capt. Volz.

For just $2,000 - anyone - from China to Canada to Western Washington - can buy the right to bid on Washington's geoduck. Last year geoduck auctions brought in $48 million to state coffers, but earned much more than that on the retail market.

One of the toughest things about enforcement out here is that this is a hidden harvest, virtually everything happens under the water, hidden from view.

The convicted poacher agreed to talk with the Problem Solvers about geoduck smuggling if we protect his identity.

He says unscrupulous divers often throw away everything but top dollar geoduck. And he adds profit-minded boat operators hide geoduck in order to harvest more than their state-allotted quota. He says there are myriad ways to hide part of a harvest, "stash them in your dive bag, to secret compartments on the vessel, to hanging them underneath the boat."

State agents have busted numerous operations - finding those secret compartments or over-quota sales. But still, divers and boat operators risk it because criminal wholesalers pay for and insist on top-grade geoduck.

Our poacher says the money controls the trade, "I've seen a little over $3 million stacked on a table."

And they risk it because they know that with all of Puget Sound for wildlife agents to watch the odds are with the smugglers.

Capt. Volz, reluctantly, agrees. "It's a Band-aid at best... what we're able to do with the number of officers we have."

But this isn't just a story about smuggling and organized crime. The Problem Solvers also discovered that black market seafood may be winding up on your plate, and there's no way to track where it comes from or if it's even safe to eat.

We are still working on that part of the investigation and will have that part of the story on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Chinese mafia rakes in millions from 'Puget Sound gold'
Post by: bigtex on February 28, 2011, 11:58:44 AM
The illegal trade and harvest of geoducks is HUGE, probably the biggest illegal commercial fish/wildlife related crime in the state but yet most people don't know a thing about it. WDFW's marine enforcement division is so understaffed its pathetic.
Title: Re: Chinese mafia rakes in millions from 'Puget Sound gold'
Post by: millertime89 on February 28, 2011, 12:00:11 PM
if tuna is chicken of the sea geoducks are apparently the cocaine of the sea...
I had no idea it was such a prized catch..
Title: Re: Chinese mafia rakes in millions from 'Puget Sound gold'
Post by: dirty24d on February 28, 2011, 12:05:20 PM
Its something i'll never consume so I'm not worried about my supply running out,  but its ridiculous that  there isnt outrage and and the man coming down swiftly on these clowns. Especially since they are being exported!!!   :bash:


The US is already weak and lacking in export, but hey lets not focus our efforts in protecting one of the few things we have that are valuable..

 :bash: :bash: 

Boy i'm in a sour mood hearing about the exploitation of our resources...
Title: Re: Chinese mafia rakes in millions from 'Puget Sound gold'
Post by: Ray on February 28, 2011, 12:48:58 PM
Where's the original source/link?
Title: Re: Chinese mafia rakes in millions from 'Puget Sound gold'
Post by: 6x6in6 on February 28, 2011, 12:53:13 PM
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/117024808.html (http://www.komonews.com/news/local/117024808.html)
Title: Re: Chinese mafia rakes in millions from 'Puget Sound gold'
Post by: PolarBear on February 28, 2011, 12:58:01 PM
It's been going on for years in the South Sound.  They also get in with the tribal divers and pay them directly for some of those nasty things.
Title: Re: Chinese mafia rakes in millions from 'Puget Sound gold'
Post by: MuleySniper on February 28, 2011, 01:14:20 PM
There is a lot of things taken from our beaches from people that most westerners wouldn't dare want to eat but unfortunately is a delicacy for others. Ive grown up on the puget sound. Spent hours on the beaches here as a kid. I always remember playing with the bull kelp. I don't remember the last time Ive seen bull kelp. Rarely. Our beaches are being raped from anything edible and without any enforcement. It doesn't surprise me this deal with geoducks.
MS
Title: Re: Chinese mafia rakes in millions from 'Puget Sound gold'
Post by: Ray on February 28, 2011, 01:15:08 PM
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/117024808.html (http://www.komonews.com/news/local/117024808.html)

Thank you
Title: Re: Chinese mafia rakes in millions from 'Puget Sound gold'
Post by: PolarBear on February 28, 2011, 11:56:27 PM
There is a tiny island in Skookum Inlet that only appears on -3 or lower tides.  Growing up it use to be a great place for kids to go and explore and find all kinds of sea creatures that you never get to see otherwise.  A group of Asian/Cambodian/Laotians/Etc came in and raped the island of every last sea star, sea cucumber, sea carrot, moon snails (no big deal there) kelp and on and on.  I took my kids out to it last summer and we were able to find 2 sea cucumbers and a few tiny starfish and that was it.  My cousin who's house overlooks the bay said that the foreigners are out there anytime that the island is showing gathering up everything they can.  Makes me sick that some folks have to be such *censored*bags.
Title: Re: Chinese mafia rakes in millions from 'Puget Sound gold'
Post by: pjb3 on March 01, 2011, 09:39:47 AM
There is a tiny island in Skookum Inlet that only appears on -3 or lower tides.  Growing up it use to be a great place for kids to go and explore and find all kinds of sea creatures that you never get to see otherwise.  A group of Asian/Cambodian/Laotians/Etc came in and raped the island of every last sea star, sea cucumber, sea carrot, moon snails (no big deal there) kelp and on and on.  I took my kids out to it last summer and we were able to find 2 sea cucumbers and a few tiny starfish and that was it.  My cousin who's house overlooks the bay said that the foreigners are out there anytime that the island is showing gathering up everything they can.  Makes me sick that some folks have to be such *censored*bags.

Have your cousin SHOOT THEM >:(
Title: Re: Chinese mafia rakes in millions from 'Puget Sound gold'
Post by: PolarBear on March 01, 2011, 09:54:16 AM
He has run them off several times and had the WDFW out there but when they show up in an little boat without hull numbers on it, it's tough to track them down.  Besides, I think that what they are doing is legal because they bring so many people that they each can take a limit.  On an island that is at it's largest 300 feet long by 100 feet wide it does not tak long for a group to clean it out and be gone.
Title: Re: Chinese mafia rakes in millions from 'Puget Sound gold'
Post by: 3dsheetmetal on March 01, 2011, 06:47:39 PM
Asians  :pee:
Title: Re: Chinese mafia rakes in millions from 'Puget Sound gold'
Post by: gotshot on March 01, 2011, 07:01:48 PM
There are state beaches at the end of Case inlet. Butter clams and oysters. I have turned them in numerous times. I know what 40 butter clams look like but when I see 4 of them with a 5 gallon bucket full it makes my blood boil. I would love a nice geoduck but you can't even find one to dig anymore unless you are a diver. >:( >:( >:(
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