Post by: seth30 on March 02, 2011, 04:18:02 PM
Post by: Bofire on March 02, 2011, 04:52:55 PM
Post by: seth30 on March 02, 2011, 04:54:27 PM
Post by: hoyt2002 on March 02, 2011, 04:59:17 PM
Post by: Humptulips on March 02, 2011, 07:09:11 PM
If disposal means killing them. Do it on your own property. If it means releasing them somewhere. Do not release on private property unless you have permission.
WDFW does not want them released somewhere else but it is not actualy illegal for someone without a license. They are a real problem as they are apt to show up at someones house and to catch them a second time is a real problem plus there is the danger of spreading disease.
Usually when you move a problem animal you are just moving the problem to someone else.
Post by: seth30 on March 02, 2011, 08:05:42 PM
Post by: lokidog on March 02, 2011, 09:05:46 PM
Option 1. Release the animal at the site of capture.
With this option, an animal is trapped and released on site after its reentry into a structure is prevented by physical exclusion. (See Evicting Animals from Buildings for exclusion techniques.)
In such a case, the animal is evicted within its home range and because it is familiar with its surroundings, it can soon find suitable food and shelter. In the event young are present but were not noticed prior to trapping, allow the female back inside to tend to her dependent offspring.
A downside to this approach is the possibility that the animal may simply enter someone else's attic, chimney, or similar place. Then, if someone else has to trap the animal, they will be dealing with a trap-smart animal, making its capture difficult.
Option 2. Release the animal outside of its home range.
The release of elk, bear, and other wildlife by professional wildlife managers to reintroduce or augment populations is a proven and valid technique for wildlife management. However, releases of this kind should not be confused with moving problem wildlife, which may be illegal. For instance, in the State of Washington, it is unlawful to possess or transport live wildlife or wild birds (except starlings and house sparrows by falconers) without a permit (WAC 232-12-064). This includes Eastern gray squirrels, Eastern cottontail rabbits, raccoons, and opossums. They are considered wildlife because they occur in Washington in a wild state—which includes neighborhood parks and backyards.
Many times, not enough consideration is given to the impact of the capture and release process on the animal, or to the animal's impact on the established wildlife populations at the release site. While wildlife released in a new location is an option often preferred by well-meaning people opposed to killing animals, this may be at the expense of the released animal or the animals at the release site.
Post by: Humptulips on March 03, 2011, 01:32:43 AM
Post by: seth30 on March 03, 2011, 06:38:22 AM
Post by: BallisticsNut on March 03, 2011, 07:36:40 AM
The coons finally thined out over the second year, stopped coming around at night because there was no food to be found but because they loved our deck the paid us a visit at least once a week. Twice, my dog trapped the coons under our deck, wouldnt let them out. Late one night, he had one treed in our back yard. Well, that was the final straw. After that night we never saw that coon again. But the family kept coming back and searching under our deck. Last year, we tore out that deck and replaced it with a stamped concrete patio. Cost $15k. Crawlspace repair $5k. Since this high cost repair and abatement process started last year, we have not yet seen another coon. Has to be cheaper solution. Moral of the story, in order to get rid of coons, you have to get rid of thier home as well as their food source. (bird feeders, fruit trees, blackberry bushes etc) You can trap one or two or the whole family but chances are another family (generation) will find the same living accomodations and make it their own. Start by getting rid of the food sources, then find their home and get rid of it. If they are living in your crawl space or attic, get pro help and plug the gaps and treat the areas. Get rid of the smell even it if means replacing insulation. Do this and most will leave on their own... but they still may come back. Our dogs see that they dont come back in the yard anymore.
Just a few thoughts to consider.
Post by: MuleySniper on March 03, 2011, 08:06:04 AM
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Post by: dirty24d on March 03, 2011, 08:22:28 AM
A couple easy ways to terminate them without using a firearm in your residential area are:
1, Fill a trash can with water and immerse the entire cage trap in it for about 10 minutes.
2, Put the cage in a thick garbage bag seal it completely pop a tiny hole it and inject a few blasts of ether.
Post by: Houndhunter on March 03, 2011, 08:44:02 AM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on March 03, 2011, 09:02:57 AM
Post by: seth30 on March 03, 2011, 09:05:31 AM
Post by: dirty24d on March 03, 2011, 09:05:51 AM
Even though I live in the county, I'm still in a residential area. My answer to loud gunfire is simple. I got a box of CCI Sub-sonic Short .22 rimfire ammo. Not even as loud as my pellet gun. Live trap them, pop them in the head, stick them in a garbage bag and dump them. Quick, quiet, and easy! The neighbors are none the wiser. Sad to have to do it, but you can't let vermin take over your property.
My neighbor has the same thing. I was amazed at how silent it is, quieter than snapping your fingers. But i dont advise posting illegal activity. :)
Post by: lokidog on March 03, 2011, 09:18:35 AM
Easy to say "drop the trap in a water filled trash can", but it takes some nerve to get your hand close enough to the trap to pick it up let alone turn it vertically when those nasty, evil things are hissing, barking, and growling at you. Be sure to have enough handles to maneuver it without getting too close, and be sure to use an indestructible bowl for your bait holder as they will shred anything else. Also be sure the trap is two or three inches away from anything the coon could tear apart. We have trapped more than 30 in the past five years.
Post by: lokidog on March 03, 2011, 09:22:18 AM
Dang it I put my traps out, and then logged in :bash: Going to pick them up after this post :( I didnt plan on releasing any of them alive :twocents:
Hope you left them out.... BTW strawberry jelly is supposed to be pretty good bait. I have always had best luck with something smokey like salmon that has gotten old (I know, I should have eaten it more quickly :chuckle: ).
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on March 03, 2011, 09:57:08 AM
Even though I live in the county, I'm still in a residential area. My answer to loud gunfire is simple. I got a box of CCI Sub-sonic Short .22 rimfire ammo. Not even as loud as my pellet gun. Live trap them, pop them in the head, stick them in a garbage bag and dump them. Quick, quiet, and easy! The neighbors are none the wiser. Sad to have to do it, but you can't let vermin take over your property.
My neighbor has the same thing. I was amazed at how silent it is, quieter than snapping your fingers. But i dont advise posting illegal activity. :)
I never said that I did anything illegal. Actually, I haven't killed a racoon since I was bowhunting in Vermont back in the '60s. I don't even have racoons on my property. My neighbors 2 houses down do, because they feed their cat outside, but I've never even seen tracks in my yard.
As far as doing something illegal, the libs have pushed through so many rules and regulations these days, you probably break several of them every day and don't even know it!
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on March 03, 2011, 10:11:14 AM
Those CCI's are good. Nice and quiet, but, if shot out of a handgun they will sometimes just flatten on the skull of a coon. Shot one five times in the head from point blank once, sixth shot finally did the job. Out of a rifle there doesn't seem to be this problem
I've never shot any out of a handgun. I suspect there is too much of what little pressure there is, lost from a handgun. Plus, Racoons are very strong, and one of the hardest animals to kill I've ever seen.