Post by: Jekemi on March 07, 2011, 12:53:23 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on March 07, 2011, 01:00:28 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on March 07, 2011, 01:17:08 PM
Post by: FC on March 07, 2011, 01:38:45 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on March 07, 2011, 02:02:22 PM
Post by: BlackRidge on March 07, 2011, 02:53:08 PM
This topic has me kinda freaked, because I just began reloading for mine.. I guess the most important thing to take away from it though is that the cases have less of a lifespan than they would in another model/brand pistol...
That and maybe load using lower charges :yike:
Post by: FC on March 07, 2011, 03:07:17 PM
Sounds like he may already have a glock though...
This topic has me kinda freaked, because I just began reloading for mine.. I guess the most important thing to take away from it though is that the cases have less of a lifespan than they would in another model/brand pistol...
That and maybe load using lower charges :yike:
I think where most people get into trouble is when they start using whatever cases are on the floor at the range (no history and poor inspection) that they sweep up and claim and/or they over-charge a weakened case.
If you are reloading for your Glock using your head and paying attention I highly doubt you will ever have a problem as thousands successfully do it. If you are the kind of guy who reloads like a 10 year old sorts socks than you might want to stick with factory stuff. Guys that like to shoot "hot" loads and reload the same brass a lot tend to have this kind of disaster the most from what I have seen.
Post by: 300rum on March 07, 2011, 04:46:29 PM
As far as a KB goes you can search any pistol and find KB's. There is a lot of "noise" on the issue and a lot of "I read", "heard" or "a friend told me" stuff, know-it-alls that really don't have any first hand experience. My opinion is that KB's happen from double charges or squibs or setting the bullet back too deap which, of course, is a preassure problem. If you are new or newer to reloading you need to know what those are and what to look/feel for, more than anything.
Don't worry about your Glock it will be just fine as long as you know what you are doing.
In the name of full disclosure I should say that I no longer shoot the Glocks, my wife does, I am her full-time reloader for her G34 and she is a full time shooter. :chuckle: I personally hate the mushy trigger even with a vanek installed. If you think that a box Glock has a bad trigger you should try an XD, you might as well squeeze a rotten apple. A 1911 is the only way to go, my friend. :)
Post by: Gutpile on March 08, 2011, 05:06:12 PM
Buy an aftermarket barrel that has more support in the chamber. I just bought a G20 about a month ago and after reading all of the horror stories i bought a Lone Wolf barrel for it. Cant say i've tried it yet but after all of the reasearch I've done I don't have any concerns at all anymore.
Can't say I was real happy about hearing these stories because to me the G20 is as good as it gets for a woods gun but with the weak chamber I was scared to run hot loads which was the whole purpose of the pistol. I feel pretty good about it now though with the aftermarket barrel.
Theres a LOT of very good reading on this subject over at Glock Talk.
Post by: SCRUBS on March 08, 2011, 05:48:30 PM
I have personally shot thousands and thousands and thousands of reloads through Glocks through the original barrel and have reloaded even more than that. I have shot Lead, Moly, and CMJ/FMJ. 9mm, .40 and .45. Currently I reload 125gr Moly Coated Bear Creek Truncated Cone bullets and I order them by the thousands. I have had no problem shooting reloads through a Glock OEM barrel, obviously. If you are concerned, you can buy a new barrel from Wolf or someone else and can probably get a few bucks out of your old barrel. Last time I looked Wolf barrels ran right around $100 dollars.
As far as a KB goes you can search any pistol and find KB's. There is a lot of "noise" on the issue and a lot of "I read", "heard" or "a friend told me" stuff, know-it-alls that really don't have any first hand experience. My opinion is that KB's happen from double charges or squibs or setting the bullet back too deap which, of course, is a preassure problem. If you are new or newer to reloading you need to know what those are and what to look/feel for, more than anything.
Don't worry about your Glock it will be just fine as long as you know what you are doing.
In the name of full disclosure I should say that I no longer shoot the Glocks, my wife does, I am her full-time reloader for her G34 and she is a full time shooter. :chuckle: I personally hate the mushy trigger even with a vanek installed. If you think that a box Glock has a bad trigger you should try an XD, you might as well squeeze a rotten apple. A 1911 is the only way to go, my friend. :)
What the heck are "squibs"?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on March 08, 2011, 05:57:25 PM
Post by: SCRUBS on March 08, 2011, 06:03:19 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on March 08, 2011, 06:06:07 PM
Post by: jaymark6655 on March 08, 2011, 07:03:37 PM
Post by: BlackRidge on March 09, 2011, 01:52:35 PM
I have personally shot thousands and thousands and thousands of reloads through Glocks through the original barrel and have reloaded even more than that. I have shot Lead, Moly, and CMJ/FMJ. 9mm, .40 and .45. Currently I reload 125gr Moly Coated Bear Creek Truncated Cone bullets and I order them by the thousands. I have had no problem shooting reloads through a Glock OEM barrel, obviously. If you are concerned, you can buy a new barrel from Wolf or someone else and can probably get a few bucks out of your old barrel. Last time I looked Wolf barrels ran right around $100 dollars.
As far as a KB goes you can search any pistol and find KB's. There is a lot of "noise" on the issue and a lot of "I read", "heard" or "a friend told me" stuff, know-it-alls that really don't have any first hand experience. My opinion is that KB's happen from double charges or squibs or setting the bullet back too deap which, of course, is a preassure problem. If you are new or newer to reloading you need to know what those are and what to look/feel for, more than anything.
Don't worry about your Glock it will be just fine as long as you know what you are doing.
In the name of full disclosure I should say that I no longer shoot the Glocks, my wife does, I am her full-time reloader for her G34 and she is a full time shooter. :chuckle: I personally hate the mushy trigger even with a vanek installed. If you think that a box Glock has a bad trigger you should try an XD, you might as well squeeze a rotten apple. A 1911 is the only way to go, my friend. :)
Thanks FC & 300,
I'm definitely feeling better about throwing some 9mm rounds together again... The general tone of the thread from the start just had me kicking myself for buying all the dies/powder/etc the week before. Figured I'd just throw the money out before even getting started haha
The thing that worries me the most, not necessarily about just pistol cartridges, is that there is so much differeing/conflicting load data out there... So many variables that can play into the equation that even if you know what you're doing, it's pretty easy to overlook something or assume your numbers are right.
An example being plates bullets vs. FMJ.. Without proper research, if someone loaded some (plated) rounds up using the numbers for FMJ, especially towards the higher end, you could start having some big problems.
Post by: GoldTip on March 09, 2011, 02:56:35 PM
Post by: 300rum on March 24, 2011, 04:03:24 PM
After having said that I have never witnessed one myself, just posting this a few days ago, I can now say that I have witnessed my first Glock "kaboom".
Here is basically what happened (to another shooter, not me). The pistol was fired and the Mag blew out the bottom. Really no big deal at all, it was a case separation in factory ammo. The shooters hand stung some but other than that there was no damage. I would have to say the pistol held up very well. It was a Gen 3 Glock 34. The cause was obviously bad factory ammo but who knows if it was a slight overcharge or a weakness in the new brass?
Post by: BlackRidge on March 24, 2011, 04:20:37 PM
I wonder if they locked the mag into place correctly too
Post by: FC on March 24, 2011, 05:19:27 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on March 24, 2011, 09:15:46 PM
I won't own a Glock. Just don't like a damn thing about them.
-Steve
Post by: Rhinoron247 on March 24, 2011, 09:26:52 PM
Post by: 300rum on March 25, 2011, 07:39:34 PM
Interesting indeed,
I wonder if they locked the mag into place correctly too
Post by: 300rum on March 25, 2011, 07:40:33 PM
I don't suppose you managed to collect that case did you? If you could post a pic that would be great.
Post by: PA BEN on March 26, 2011, 10:59:52 AM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,46801.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,46801.0.html)
Post by: CastleRocker on March 26, 2011, 11:41:16 AM
I think most of the problems I read about with Glocks are just regurgitated internet stories. How many times do we see the same picture of some critter with a new story, or at least new "my cousins, friends, brother" as lead characters in the story.
I've been through the Glock Armourers course twice, and they are about the simplest, accurate, and most dependable pistol out there.
All that being said....the triggers on them SUCK! No matter what I've done to mine, it is still not anywhere like a really good, crisp 1911 trigger. Also, I've never really liked the way they felt in my hand. But man do they shoot and shoot and shoot.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on March 27, 2011, 10:41:20 PM
I think most of the problems I read about with Glocks are just regurgitated internet stories. How many times do we see the same picture of some critter with a new story, or at least new "my cousins, friends, brother" as lead characters in the story.
I was talking to a fellow range officer at Custer Sportsmens Club last week. He witnessed a Glock lockup. Not a K'boom, but the gun would not function. The mag was blown out the gripframe. The shooter was shooting hand loads, but is also an experienced reloader/shooter. As an IPSC competitor I'm sure that you know who's who and would never suspect that a person's reloading practices would lead to a double charge with the force to break a gun. I've h to eard of more K'booms with Glocks than I've ever read on the internet. I spend quite a bit of time at both the pistol and rifle range of our club. I shoot a few times a week with one of the range officers there. I hear a lot about Glocks... Ya know.. I never hear anything bad about a quality 1911. Not to make this a Glock bashing post. Not at all, but I do think it is responsible of the Glock owner to abide by the recommendations of the manufacture regarding reloaded ammunition and shooting of lead bullets. I would think that very hard cast bullets might be safe in a Polygonol barrel. I'm not gonna try it. I'm glad you've had good luck in that boat. I wonder if different models of Glocks.. Different calibers may be more prone issue? I really don't know. I do know people that reload for their Glocks. They do take some extra precautions. Non Glock fired brass, and no soft lead bullets, (not less than 18 BHN I would think). Take a search through Glock Talk, The Firing Line, The High Road discussion forums. There's all sorts of discussion about reloading, loading lead, changing barrels in Glocks.
-Steve