Post by: scoutsniper17 on March 27, 2011, 05:55:12 PM
Post by: high country on March 27, 2011, 06:16:29 PM
Post by: MDGrand on March 27, 2011, 07:38:44 PM
For some reason my rifle never liked the 180 accubonds either..
One loads it does like:
200 Grain Barnes TTSX, RL 25, 87.9 grains, sub MOA 5 shot group.
* I would definitely recommend a new stock.. the ones that came from Remington are POS', I have a HS Precision seen here.
Post by: haugenna on March 27, 2011, 10:07:24 PM
RL22 is too fast for the RUM. RL 25 is too sensitive to temperature changes. Stick with Retumbo. Get a muzzle brake on that bad boy.
Post by: hoyt2002 on March 27, 2011, 10:43:57 PM
Post by: MDGrand on March 28, 2011, 06:31:48 AM
100.2 grains of Retumbo is what my RUM likes. 215M Primers
RL22 is too fast for the RUM. RL 25 is too sensitive to temperature changes. Stick with Retumbo. Get a muzzle brake on that bad boy.
I have not heard that before about RL 25... did you have a personal experience with this? I have yet to try Retumbo but I want to.. most published load data shows that RL 25 gives just a little more velocity vs. Retumbo.
with 100 grains are you running compressed loads?
I vote no on the muzzlebreak as I am not a fan of them.. by just replacing the stock you are going to notice a much bigger difference in recoil.. put a pachmyer or limbsaver too before you go that route :twocents:
Post by: jess on March 28, 2011, 07:20:32 PM
Post by: haugenna on March 30, 2011, 06:52:07 PM
100.2 grains of Retumbo is what my RUM likes. 215M Primers
RL22 is too fast for the RUM. RL 25 is too sensitive to temperature changes. Stick with Retumbo. Get a muzzle brake on that bad boy.
I have not heard that before about RL 25... did you have a personal experience with this? I have yet to try Retumbo but I want to.. most published load data shows that RL 25 gives just a little more velocity vs. Retumbo.
with 100 grains are you running compressed loads?
I vote no on the muzzlebreak as I am not a fan of them.. by just replacing the stock you are going to notice a much bigger difference in recoil.. put a pachmyer or limbsaver too before you go that route :twocents:
I have had some pressure spikes, sticky bolts, and increase in velocities in the summer time compared to fall and winter performance using the same loads with RL 25.
I don't have to use a funnel or anything. They are full but I wouldn't call them compressed.
Post by: bow-n-head on March 30, 2011, 07:06:16 PM
Post by: scoutsniper17 on March 30, 2011, 07:20:13 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on March 31, 2011, 10:19:25 AM
I would buy a lead sled to sight it in on and then just take it in the field.
I would highly recommend NOT doing this. Lead Sleds have proven to break stocks, rings, and scopes with these high powered magnums. I've seen it happen with an XCR. They're great for smaller calibers, but not RUMs. :twocents:
Also, I'd definately stick with Retumbo. I own 3 Mdl 700 actioned 300RUMs, and all accept it very well. I know of another 15-20 others with Remington RUMs who all use Retumbo with good results. I really like the temperature stability with that powder. Maybe your gun just doesn't like the Accubond, but Id find that weird, as most stock XCRs I've seen shoot them well. I agree with MDGrand about the stock. A replacement would be beneficial imo. I've been in your shoes a few times with these RUMs and know the feeling. Keep tinkering with different loads and make sure to clean your barrel well before bailing on a load. Load a few at 98-98.5 grains of Retumbo and see if your group tightens. Last, but not least, you will thank yourself later for adding a muzzlebreak for the XCR.
Post by: whacker1 on March 31, 2011, 10:21:10 AM
Post by: MDGrand on March 31, 2011, 10:35:06 AM
I would buy a lead sled to sight it in on and then just take it in the field.
I would highly recommend NOT doing this. Lead Sleds have proven to break stocks, rings, and scopes with these high powered magnums. I've seen it happen with an XCR. They're great for smaller calibers, but not RUMs. :twocents:
Also, I'd definately stick with Retumbo. I own 3 Mdl 700 actioned 300RUMs, and all accept it very well. I know of another 15-20 others with Remington RUMs who all use Retumbo with good results. I really like the temperature stability with that powder. Maybe your gun just doesn't like the Accubond, but Id find that weird, as most stock XCRs I've seen shoot them well. I agree with MDGrand about the stock. A replacement would be beneficial imo. I've been in your shoes a few times with these RUMs and know the feeling. Keep tinkering with different loads and make sure to clean your barrel well before bailing on a load. Load a few at 98-98.5 grains of Retumbo and see if your group tightens. Last, but not least, you will thank yourself later for adding a muzzlebreak for the XCR.
Interesting... I have not heard that before about the lead sled. I use mine ALL the time when zeroing.. and I have never had an issue with my RUM.. That being said, I think the pachmeyer or limbsaver along with a new stock, mine is HS precision probably allows for this.
As far as scopes breaking and rings.. really? Wow.. that would suck.
Going to try Retumbo just as soon as I get my new Hart barrel back on my RUM. :)
Post by: bow-n-head on March 31, 2011, 03:12:31 PM
Post by: scoutsniper17 on March 31, 2011, 08:02:44 PM
Post by: haugenna on March 31, 2011, 08:11:07 PM
Post by: bow-n-head on March 31, 2011, 08:33:56 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on April 01, 2011, 07:53:37 AM
Your ears and your friends ears won't appreciate the muzzle break. Every time I get a shot at a deer or elk I don't have time to put in ear plugs ;)
Take the brake off and thread on the end cap when hunting then. ;)
Post by: haugenna on April 09, 2011, 12:11:44 PM
Strait up if you need a break mabe you should shoot a smaller caliber
This comment comes up a lot. A brake is usefull at the range. When I shot 30 rounds from an ultralight 300 Win Mag at the range, a brake is very usefull. I get to shoot COMFORTABLY for the entire time and it is enjoyable to shoot. This is great practice. When it comes to the field and hunting situations, take the brake off and put on a thread cap.
I have seen brakes on large and small calibers.