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Title: Mauser Help!
Post by: Harold on April 11, 2011, 11:25:23 PM
I'm seeing mausers for sale everywhere for dirt cheap and I've seen a lot of mauser projects. I'm some what inspired on phishisgroovins project. what i need help in is finding the right gun for the project. there is a million different types of mausers Ive seen. my plan would be simple new stock if needed, depending on the barrel I'd find an aftermarket one or just sand it down and have it re blued . just looking for something that will keep me busy and to have a hunting rifle i can take pride in. pictures and experiences would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Mauser Help!
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 11, 2011, 11:41:03 PM
one that shoudnt be overlooked would be a turkish mauser, they are inexpensive and just as good as a k98 german mauser.
in fact, my turkish mauser has a smoother action than my Enfield, but doesnt shoot as nice as the enfield lol.

Barrels for the turks can be completely free to $$$$$ way up there depending on your wallet.
If you got a large ring mauser, chances are rebarreling it at a gunsmith and setting the headspace will only cost $75-$150 depending on your gunsmith.

Turks usually come as 8mm, which are a good solid round and sold commercially everywhere also.

Go look in pawn shops, you will have a great chance of finding a project grade milsurp for around $100 out the door, for an already altered rifle.

Bens loans in Renton has a bunch of them as does Kent Jewlery & loan.
Title: Re: Mauser Help!
Post by: Harold on April 12, 2011, 12:13:58 AM
I'll have to look into those turkish mausers. i honestly know very little about putting a "gunsmithing" but untill im able to walk again i figure it would be a good way to waist some time.

What barrel makers have you had good experience with? I'd love to find a gun and be able to keep the original barrel but ied also like to shoot moa to 200yds or so.

ill have to go pawn shop hoppin sometime this week ive seen a few on seattleguns and gunbroker but nothing has complete caught my eye yet. thanks for the reply, hope all's goin well with your project.
Title: Re: Mauser Help!
Post by: coriantonk on April 12, 2011, 10:49:56 AM
Brownells sells pre threaded barrels

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/cid=10901/k=/t=P/avs%7cMake~~Model_1=Mauser__98/Products/Rifle-Barrels (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/cid=10901/k=/t=P/avs%7cMake~~Model_1=Mauser__98/Products/Rifle-Barrels)

MOA at 200 will be pretty tough with a milsurp barrel.  You get what you pay for on a barrel.  You can look at the small ring mausers as well.  You can usually pick them up cheaper, but you would be advised to stick with lower pressure cartridges. The small ring mausers are the 93,94,95, and 96.  The German ones are better than the Spanish.  The only problem with the Turkish mausers as far as I know is that they are hybrid of the large and small ring mausers and so after market stocks are not as common.

Personally I love the 7x57 Mauser cartridge and I hunt with a sporterized 93.  Accuracy with my factory barrel is about 1.25 inches at 100 and just under three at 200.   :twocents:

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Mauser Help!
Post by: Harold on April 12, 2011, 08:28:58 PM
my grandfather has a 7x57 mauser not sure if its a small right or large but its a really nice rifle and he swears by it. does anyone know anything about belgium 98 mauser's? i found one, the guy says it appears to be a non military virsion with no major markings other then than "made in belgium" its chambered in .270 so ied really like to get it but im hesitant not knowing much about it.
Title: Re: Mauser Help!
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 12, 2011, 09:25:19 PM
some of the finest shooting steel in the world (and works of art guns too) came from Belgium.
Depending on the price, you cant go wrong with a belgium mauser.

Belgium gun builders were so far ahead of any arsenal firearm that the german military could create in regards to the quality of the steel and craftsmanship.
Title: Re: Mauser Help!
Post by: Harold on April 12, 2011, 09:47:58 PM
well thats good to know, ive always herd amazing things about belgium brownings.

The man said "I note that there has been a receiver sight on it and the hole was messed up. Also the scope base is shimmed severely"

what would you take from that? could the receiver sight hole be welded shut without effecting anything or is that to much heat for an action to withstand? also im not sure what a shimmed scope base means, in the picture it almost looks welded its self...
Title: Re: Mauser Help!
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 12, 2011, 10:57:34 PM
well thats good to know, ive always herd amazing things about belgium brownings.

The man said "I note that there has been a receiver sight on it and the hole was messed up. Also the scope base is shimmed severely"

what would you take from that? could the receiver sight hole be welded shut without effecting anything or is that to much heat for an action to withstand? also im not sure what a shimmed scope base means, in the picture it almost looks welded its self...
probably has weaver bases on it and they had to put a wedge under the front one to line it level with the rear. its common actually.

I have shims under my enfield one piece as well, but nobody can see them.
Not too sure about the holes, usually (unless a bubba) they cant be messed up if someone used a jig.

I have a jig though and i would hook you up on using it to make your holes straight if needed. you just need to buy a #31 drill bit and a 31/24 i think it is tap. have to have a new tap on each reciever.
Title: Re: Mauser Help!
Post by: 724wd on April 13, 2011, 12:09:01 PM
belgian mauser should be a good one.  lots of commercial guns are drilled and tapped on the right side of the rear bridge for receiver sights.  unless you plan on using one, i wouldn't worry too much about a buggered hole.  any chance you can get pics of the gun?  shimmed bases could just mean they used the wrong ones for the gun.  like using a small ring base on a large ring gun. 

turk mausers are a nice gun to work with in a standard caliber.  it's recommended by the internet  :rolleyes:  to not try and rechamber to a magnum round.  they are a hybrid of large and small ring in the sense that the physical dimentions of the receiver are that of a large ring mauser, while the barrel tenon and threads are that of a small ring.

if you're interested in playing around with these, you might check out sporterizing.com.  lots of knowledgable folks there that don't freak out when you're messing around with an old war relic like some sites.  good luck and have fun!  (and be prepared to buy more... they're kind of a disease!  I have 8 or 9!)
Title: Re: Mauser Help!
Post by: Harold on April 13, 2011, 02:25:45 PM
thanks phish, my family owns a company that makes drill bits so that wouldn't be an issue at all ill defiantly have to look into that.

ill be looking at sporterizing.com tonight thanks for the recommendation.

i think i might have to take a trip up north the weekend or then next and get this project started. he sent me some pictures of it, ill attach a few.
Title: Re: Mauser Help!
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 13, 2011, 03:39:10 PM
I think i was eyeballing that mauser at the gubshow in puyallup two months ago.  :o

Great find for a starter!
its got a double safety on it too, one on the left and the one on the unmodified bolt end.
pretty cool you wont have to have the bolt turned also, thats kind of spendy unless you know someone with a tig welder.

Title: Re: Mauser Help!
Post by: Harold on April 13, 2011, 06:31:47 PM
it maybe, the guy said he bought it for the scope and has no use for the gun. i think im going to try to talk him down a little bit, 175 for a project is a little steep for me right now.
Title: Re: Mauser Help!
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 13, 2011, 06:46:25 PM
that is a little high in the price range for the $145-150 rifle.
Unless it has a custom barrel on it, then it would be about right.

That scope mount looks bedded, not shimmed to me. some black paint would hide the gray/silver or get a redfield one piece mauser mount.
Uses two holes up front and one in the rear.
Title: Re: Mauser Help!
Post by: quadrafire on April 13, 2011, 07:07:05 PM
Harold
check out this site

http://www.surplusrifle.com/ (http://www.surplusrifle.com/)
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