Post by: zmhayward on April 14, 2011, 12:36:32 PM
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Post by: ORCA_SIX on April 14, 2011, 12:45:16 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 14, 2011, 12:51:15 PM
Post by: Curly on April 14, 2011, 12:57:41 PM
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Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 14, 2011, 02:43:54 PM
Post by: washelkhntr on April 14, 2011, 03:05:12 PM
Anyway you look at it . . . your gonna get wet!
Post by: grundy53 on April 14, 2011, 03:10:04 PM
Post by: CastleRocker on April 14, 2011, 03:15:14 PM
Remember...it's just water!!! It WILL be ok!
Post by: grundy53 on April 14, 2011, 03:18:12 PM
If I hunt the modern elk, or late muzzleloader seasons, I wear my Grunden's. They are orange. I wear Extratuf rubber corks.
Remember...it's just water!!! It WILL be ok!
Yeah I don't get why everyone is affraid to get wet. You can always dry off at night. just make sure you have about a dozen sets of dry clothes... :chuckle:
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 14, 2011, 04:09:54 PM
Post by: jackmaster on April 14, 2011, 08:09:06 PM
Post by: brew on April 14, 2011, 08:40:25 PM
there is no better gear than RIVERS WEST, its silent and 100% water proof and has a great camo pattern, now the getn wet part the dryer you stay the more comfortable you are and that equals paying more attention because you aint soakin ass wet which is a guarantee when you hunt the westside, and we all know a bit about that and if you think real hard about it when your wet cold and miserable you dont hunt as hard sure you will tough it out because thats what we do, BUT WHY ? i gave up on wet and i only need my rivers west, i never have to worry about extra clothes except t shirts and long johnsriver's west is some good sh*t. not only is it outstanding hunting gear I wear it all winter cuz we ride quads year round, don't matter the weather--rain, sleet or snow at 20 mph buzzing down a logging road in January you stay warm and dry. a litte expensive but worth the price. staying warm and dry is worth it
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on April 14, 2011, 08:53:29 PM
Devils club, cut some off with your pruners and shove it in your pants and down your shirt so you look like a devils club bush, works great.... :chuckle:Dude what great advice, can't wait to try it. I will be warm with pain. :chuckle:
Post by: MDGrand on April 15, 2011, 09:51:28 AM
I have Kings camo and as great as it was for the east side muzzleload season it seemed inadequate for the west side modern season. What is the best camo to go with for thick and wet areas on the west side of the cascades?
Rivers West will do the job and then some. Not cheap, but well worth it and a great product!
Recomendations:
They have 3 lines that very by warmth capability
APF - light weight and breathes better, get these if you plan to do walking and hiking, always make sure to open the vents while moving to help let it breath.
H2P Law... midwight. If you plan on sitting a lot an only walking a little or if its really cold. These are great
H2P.. heavier weight... this is good for stand hunting.
As a Pro Team Member I use the APF line almost always and the H2P Law jackets.
:twocents:
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 15, 2011, 10:19:38 AM
I have tried several varieties of rain gear, but always seem to get wet, either from perspiration, or precipitation.
The rain is not as big a factor as the wet bushes, and I hate getting too warm from my clothing, that is why I like my wool.
In my experiences during hunting season, it will rain off and on, sometimes even quitting from changes in elevation.
I already carry enough stuff in my pack, not much room left to stuff clothes I take off due to overheating within the first couple miles, and usually take them off and stash them for pick up on my return (I even still have a coat hanging in a tree down in a creek bottom that I need to go back to, after getting an animal later in the day, unless somebody found it by now)
I have found that my confortable hunting clothes that work for all seasons are my best and cheapest options, a little spray now and then, and they shed water like a duck. It is still my feet, but again, if the water isn't coming in, the sweat isn't going out, so they get wet no matter what.
Post by: zmhayward on April 15, 2011, 06:31:33 PM
I would use Kings Mountain Shadow just about anywhere! I really like that pattern.
I love the print and i will be using my mountain shadow for hunting on the east side of the cascades. I just wish kings would make better raingear.
Post by: GoPlayOutside on April 15, 2011, 06:38:41 PM
Hate it when I'm hiking hard or sweating. It doesn't breath and locks in your sweat.
Post by: longstevo on April 15, 2011, 07:56:28 PM
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Post by: Ingwe on April 15, 2011, 08:07:02 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 15, 2011, 09:20:10 PM
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If you get to hot wearing rain gear, you are probably walking to fast in the timber and brush of west side.I usually cover a few miles before daylight to get to my hunting area, and I dont know about you, but it takes me quite a bit of effort to climb the side of a hill, walking is not the issue, climbing, crawling, and other activities (slipping, sliding) through the thick brush.
You can really only walk on roads and trails, I actually get off of roads, and trails have a habit of..... :dunno:
Post by: Sneaky on April 15, 2011, 10:11:29 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 15, 2011, 10:53:46 PM
Rivers west. If you're moving fast enough to sweat and overheat you are hiking, not hunting. :twocents:I guess it must be nice to be able to hunt right out of the truck, but I "hike" to my hunting areas, then slow down to hunt.
Also, when I am looking (hunting) for Elk, I cover a lot of ground, slow down when I am actually in good areas, but this usually requires that I get there first.
I get away from the road long before daylight, and usually the area requires a substantial uphill to get into a spot that I can slow down in.
I can guarantee that ANYBODY, no matter what they are wearing, or how good a shape they are in would sweat climbing in and out of the drainages I call my hunting areas.
I believe in hunting slow, but I need to be where the animals are first, then slow down.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 15, 2011, 11:14:23 PM
I've found that the PVC pants from Cabela's work great. Also, I waterproof my boots with tons of Obenaufs LP and wear the PVC pants over the boots. Then put leg gaiter over that. I can keep the lower body dry after being in the rainy rainforest all day. I'm working on inventing something for the upper body.
Has anyone tried hunting in a drysuit like divers and kayakers wear?
Post by: grundy53 on April 16, 2011, 06:12:07 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 16, 2011, 06:17:48 AM
Post by: grundy53 on April 16, 2011, 06:48:11 AM
Or maybe just walk over and start skinning out your animal. :dunno:
If your hunting the thick stuff you can jump them before you see them. I don't know about you but I'm not going to shoot before I see them. Even if you can see them you have to make sure they have atleast 3 points on one side.
Post by: jharstad on April 17, 2011, 09:11:45 AM
Post by: PolarBear on April 17, 2011, 09:14:32 AM
Post by: KillBilly on April 17, 2011, 09:27:02 AM
lioncloth, moccasins, 300 win mag, and 5 any elk tags. well at least in the white river unit :bash:
300 WinMag? Get it correct, (sp too) It is: loincloth, moccasins, & .22 Mag from front seat of truck
Post by: jharstad on April 17, 2011, 09:46:30 AM
Post by: longstevo on April 17, 2011, 02:22:47 PM
Listening to some of the "hunters" on here you would be better off rolling yourself in salt and alfalfa, sit in your truck and wait for them to smell and come to you.
Hahahahaha!
Post by: h2ofowlr on April 17, 2011, 02:52:38 PM
Post by: grundy53 on April 17, 2011, 03:04:47 PM
Here is how we did in 2010 with out the Afalfa/Salt roll ;)
Post by: bobcat on April 17, 2011, 03:12:53 PM
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Post by: zmhayward on April 18, 2011, 10:55:49 AM
there is no better gear than RIVERS WEST, its silent and 100% water proof and has a great camo pattern, now the getn wet part the dryer you stay the more comfortable you are and that equals paying more attention because you aint soakin ass wet which is a guarantee when you hunt the westside, and we all know a bit about that and if you think real hard about it when your wet cold and miserable you dont hunt as hard sure you will tough it out because thats what we do, BUT WHY ? i gave up on wet and i only need my rivers west, i never have to worry about extra clothes except t shirts and long johns
I checked out the rivers west gear and the quality seems top notch. My only question is about the magnetic pockets. Do you have problems with the magnet affecting your gps (if you use one)? I ask because my buddy has magnetic pockets and he is blaming the magnetic pockets on throwing off his gps tracking and compass.
Post by: bobcat on April 18, 2011, 09:59:18 PM
Post by: jackmaster on April 19, 2011, 06:33:10 AM
there is no better gear than RIVERS WEST, its silent and 100% water proof and has a great camo pattern, now the getn wet part the dryer you stay the more comfortable you are and that equals paying more attention because you aint soakin ass wet which is a guarantee when you hunt the westside, and we all know a bit about that and if you think real hard about it when your wet cold and miserable you dont hunt as hard sure you will tough it out because thats what we do, BUT WHY ? i gave up on wet and i only need my rivers west, i never have to worry about extra clothes except t shirts and long johns
I checked out the rivers west gear and the quality seems top notch. My only question is about the magnetic pockets. Do you have problems with the magnet affecting your gps (if you use one)? I ask because my buddy has magnetic pockets and he is blaming the magnetic pockets on throwing off his gps tracking and compass.
sorry but i couldnt tell you if it does or not, my dad took hiss magnets out of his jacket and the cargo compartments on his pants, i would ask rivers west, hell you might have came up with somethn maybe they would fix the problem and give you a free set for helpn them out, its worth a shot, all i can say its bad ass stuff.
Post by: zmhayward on April 20, 2011, 11:31:21 AM
there is no better gear than RIVERS WEST, its silent and 100% water proof and has a great camo pattern, now the getn wet part the dryer you stay the more comfortable you are and that equals paying more attention because you aint soakin ass wet which is a guarantee when you hunt the westside, and we all know a bit about that and if you think real hard about it when your wet cold and miserable you dont hunt as hard sure you will tough it out because thats what we do, BUT WHY ? i gave up on wet and i only need my rivers west, i never have to worry about extra clothes except t shirts and long johns
I checked out the rivers west gear and the quality seems top notch. My only question is about the magnetic pockets. Do you have problems with the magnet affecting your gps (if you use one)? I ask because my buddy has magnetic pockets and he is blaming the magnetic pockets on throwing off his gps tracking and compass.
sorry but i couldnt tell you if it does or not, my dad took hiss magnets out of his jacket and the cargo compartments on his pants, i would ask rivers west, hell you might have came up with somethn maybe they would fix the problem and give you a free set for helpn them out, its worth a shot, all i can say its bad ass stuff.
Hey great idea! Im liking the rivers west and im thinking thats what Im gonna gowith although the Sitka sounds awesome too, Although its extremely expensive. The magnets made a mess out of the compass on my buddies gps so removing them would not be out of the question. Thanks for the heads up on some gear!
Post by: jackmaster on April 20, 2011, 12:04:26 PM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 20, 2011, 12:09:53 PM
Post by: Curly on April 20, 2011, 12:25:55 PM
Hey great idea! Im liking the rivers west and im thinking thats what Im gonna gowith although the Sitka sounds awesome too, Although its extremely expensive. The magnets made a mess out of the compass on my buddies gps so removing them would not be out of the question. Thanks for the heads up on some gear!
Just be sure to report back after you use it and tell us how you like it. I don't have any experience with the newer RW stuff, but the older stuff is only good for sitting in a drift boat or sitting in a duck blind or tree stand. Apparently the newer, lighter weight stuff is better..........
Post by: zmhayward on April 20, 2011, 03:25:20 PM
there is no better gear than RIVERS WEST, its silent and 100% water proof and has a great camo pattern, now the getn wet part the dryer you stay the more comfortable you are and that equals paying more attention because you aint soakin ass wet which is a guarantee when you hunt the westside, and we all know a bit about that and if you think real hard about it when your wet cold and miserable you dont hunt as hard sure you will tough it out because thats what we do, BUT WHY ? i gave up on wet and i only need my rivers west, i never have to worry about extra clothes except t shirts and long johns
I checked out the rivers west gear and the quality seems top notch. My only question is about the magnetic pockets. Do you have problems with the magnet affecting your gps (if you use one)? I ask because my buddy has magnetic pockets and he is blaming the magnetic pockets on throwing off his gps tracking and compass.
sorry but i couldnt tell you if it does or not, my dad took hiss magnets out of his jacket and the cargo compartments on his pants, i would ask rivers west, hell you might have came up with somethn maybe they would fix the problem and give you a free set for helpn them out, its worth a shot, all i can say its bad ass stuff.
Hey great idea! Im liking the rivers west and im thinking thats what Im gonna gowith although the Sitka sounds awesome too, Although its extremely expensive. The magnets made a mess out of the compass on my buddies gps so removing them would not be out of the question. Thanks for the heads up on some gear!
Tried for the free gear. No dice.
Post by: longknife on April 20, 2011, 04:10:38 PM
Post by: cohoho on April 21, 2011, 09:03:51 AM
Post by: MDGrand on April 21, 2011, 11:16:03 AM
Tips:
Get the appropriate line.. APF - 55-70 degrees H2P Law 35-55 degrees, H2P 0-35 degrees.
Moving a lot? Make sure to open the vents and wear the APF line.
The guarantee is awesome. Make sure to use it if yours is getting soaked.. rare to happen but all garments are subject to a flaw now and then.
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Post by: jackmaster on April 21, 2011, 11:36:00 AM
Alot of River's West fans on here right now??? I personally do not like mine at all. Yea give it credit for being warm for boat rides and sitting in bait station tree stands while in Alaska, but the stuff sucks up so much water they weigh a ton and externally they take three weekends to dry out properly. Ever try to use it on a seven day goat hunting trip in serious wet conditions---- IT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! The stuff will not dry out in cold, wet, humid conditions... The best rain protection and quick to dry- is my olive green 3/4 length Helly Hansen Impertech rain jacket- not the heavy boat stuff. Combine that over top a wool sweater, life is good and dry.. And alive!!!!i am not trying to tell you your business but i think your RW might have been defective, i never have any trouble with getn mine dry and i have the heavy gear, the only thing is it sucks hiking in it even with the vents open but i just tie it to my pack do my hike and wait till i am done sweating and to the point of getting cold and then i put it on, if i was you i would take it back and they will hook you up with new stuff
Post by: ORCA_SIX on April 21, 2011, 11:47:39 AM
Ever try to use it on a seven day goat hunting trip in serious wet conditions---- IT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know about RW, but what I do know is that most people have not been on a 7 day goat trip in serious wet conditions. And I also know that being wet, cold and miserable is the worst position to be in when hunting. So finding the right gear that works for you is important. If it is RW cool, HH cool, important thing is that you usually either pay early on or later. Later on buying cheap stuff that does not work (wet, cold miserable)or early on by buying quality stuff. Obviously, income dictates. Just gotta look out for those sales early in the year.
Post by: jackmaster on April 21, 2011, 12:14:31 PM
:yeah:Ever try to use it on a seven day goat hunting trip in serious wet conditions---- IT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know about RW, but what I do know is that most people have not been on a 7 day goat trip in serious wet conditions. And I also know that being wet, cold and miserable is the worst position to be in when hunting. So finding the right gear that works for you is important. If it is RW cool, HH cool, important thing is that you usually either pay early on or later. Later on buying cheap stuff that does not work (wet, cold miserable)or early on by buying quality stuff. Obviously, income dictates. Just gotta look out for those sales early in the year.
Post by: Curly on April 21, 2011, 03:53:03 PM
Maybe RW should allow previous owners to bring in their old gear for a trade in on the new stuff to see if the new stuff is better. Oh, another thing, what good is opening a vent, when it just lets water in.......... :dunno:
Post by: MDGrand on April 21, 2011, 09:54:25 PM
I'm with Coho. I'll have to admit that I haven't tried the newer stuff though, but why would I when the older stuff is not as they advertised? They said it was breathable and it isn't. And I agree with the part about taking a long time to dry out too. The stuff soaks up a ton of water and it can take a week to dry it out.
Maybe RW should allow previous owners to bring in their old gear for a trade in on the new stuff to see if the new stuff is better. Oh, another thing, what good is opening a vent, when it just lets water in.......... :dunno:
Have you ever tried sending it in? They have a pretty kick ass guarantee... you should send it in and see.
Post by: Armadillo on April 21, 2011, 10:02:18 PM
Post by: jackmaster on April 22, 2011, 06:45:48 AM
Post by: MDGrand on April 22, 2011, 08:10:22 AM
i used regular rain gear as well when i couldnt afford good stuff when i was young and fresh out of the army, since then i bought some of the first gear RW came out with and havent bought anything since, that was 7 or 8 years ago, i managed to rip a big hole in the side of my RW pants i took them back and they gave me a brand new pair, RW guarantee is awesome, anyones gear that is soaking up water is defective, take it back and they will give you new gear, i dont work for RW so i get zilch out of this, peoples opinions vary a great deal, what works for one may not be the cats meow for another. :twocents:
I will have to second this.. everybody should use what they want..
But if you have had a bad experience with RW.. they stand behind their product.. so send it in and give em another shot!
I was a big RW fan before becomming part of the pro team, and nothing I have had before is as durrable, quiet or waterproof. Sure I could always wear a pair of gundys but those are loud and definitely don't breath. I am not a fan of Gortex due to the noise in bow season as well as having it tear a few times on braches.. so, to each his own. But I have yet to be let down by their product and its cool they are NW made.
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Post by: Armadillo on April 22, 2011, 08:17:02 AM
Post by: grundy53 on April 22, 2011, 08:20:48 AM
Where is the nearest RW dealer? I live in the N. Seattle area is this something I can order online
Sports Emporium on 4th ave S right next to Safeco. They have a bunch.
Post by: Armadillo on April 22, 2011, 08:23:28 AM
Post by: MDGrand on April 22, 2011, 08:30:31 AM
Where is the nearest RW dealer? I live in the N. Seattle area is this something I can order online
Outdoor Emporium off 4th in Seattle.
I would recommend waiting til June however.. they have a new line comming out including a reversable that I have been testing for months that is pretty cool and a great fit.
Here is latest catalog: http://riverswest.com/accounts/form/catalog/2011_catalog.pdf (http://riverswest.com/accounts/form/catalog/2011_catalog.pdf)
Post by: zmhayward on April 22, 2011, 03:13:10 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on April 23, 2011, 07:19:04 AM
But I will say that what I had was from several years ago.So maybe the new stuff is better.