Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: SNIPER10 on May 28, 2008, 10:10:35 PM
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Hey there folks,
I just wanted to let everyone know that I will be doing an elk calling and tactics seminar at the Federal Way Sportsman's Warehouse on July 2nd at 6:00 p.m. I will be going over elk biology, calling techniques, calling mistakes, terrain tactics, meat care, equipment, and the effects of adrenaline on the shooting system. I hope to see some of you there so I can meet some new faces and talk elk with everyone. Bring your calls, your experiences, and your questions.
Take Care,
Joel Turner :o
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Hey Joel, I wish I were closer to your area, I'd certainly attend to hear you! I'm sure you'll do a fine job!!
Does this mean you're part of Rockies ProStaff?
ElkNut1
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Yes I am now on Rockie's pro staff. He sure is making some great new calls. Have you tried the Bully Bull tube yet????
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Yes I have! It's not a bad bugle but needs some toning down. It has too much brassy/plastic resonance coming off the barrel, it needs 2-3 rubber dampeners on it it to control or tame it down some for more realistic bull tones. Too, the exhaust barrel end is too wide open for best results, the airflow escapes too quickly & easily, your airflow should stay trapped in the barrel longer for absolute best realistic resonance elk sounds. Of course once you trap or bottle these sounds before escaping then you'll notice the need for the rubber dampeners even more prevalent.
I've played around with Customizing many grunt tubes for years now including Rockies which in my opinion were the best! I still have been Customizing those for a few years now to achieve even better realistic tones. I have them on our Site so that should tell you they're pretty good! (grin)
But I have come out with two new tubes of my own now, The Chuckler & LIL Chuckler, both have the Customized design I was referring too, including restricting the barrel end with the smaller hole/holes for best performance. The larger one The Chuckler has a 3 1/4" barrel & the LIL Chuckler has a 2 1/4" barrel, both weigh in at under 6oz & can be used with flex tube with one hand operation easily, no bending when you don't want it too & bending when you do.
This larger one is good enough to win a World Championship today, it's one of the best sounding & controllable bugles you've ever heard! It will make any hunter sound better than he really is! (grin) Both Bugles have unreal tones! These Bugles are strictly Grunt Tubes, no external reeds.
You're an individual who know what it takes to sound good in Comps, I'll have to get one of these to you to test drive & see what you think yourself? (grin) By the way, I have been a judge at several of the smaller competitions so I have an idea what's a good sound to what's mediocre! Most great callers are very comparable in their use of calls, it's the tube that can give ones an edge over the others.
ElkNut1
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Sniper.... you ever do anything on the east side (spokane)?
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Wow, you guys really take this calling thing to a science. I'll try and attend the seminar and bring a couple of my calls that work, as well as a few I haven't had success with to see what I'm doing wrong... I would love to learn a mouth-reed call...
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I wish I was going to be around........... :'(
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Hey fellas,
I usually do a seminar in Wenatchee every summer. I haven't got it set up yet, but I am working on it with Hooked On Toys in Wenatchee. I will try to keep you posted.
Elknut,
I would love to try one of those tubes, sounds like they would be great!!!!
JT
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Elknut, I was reading through the little nickle and saw that a seminar was going on in Athol. You need to keep us informed on these things. :dunno:
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tlbradford, It wasn't very close to your area so I didn't say anything about it. Thanks though!
Joel, I sold out of the 1st batch of Bugles/Chucklers in a blink of an eye! (grin) I'm out for the moment but will have another in a few days?
I'm sending you a PM
ElkNut1
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Are you the guy who won the RMEF competion this year?
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Yep I won the RMEF World Championship in the Pro Division this year. Probably just luck!!!!!
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Yea, Joel has always been blowing hot air. He just put it to good work. :chuckle: Aint that right Joel ?
Rodger
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Joel,
Thank you for putting on the seminar last night. Excellent job...I think you just about doubled my knowledge of elk. Can't wait to get out into the field this summer/fall and try some of the stuff out that you discussed.
LF
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Little Fish,
Thanks for the compliment. I am always glad to help a fellow hunter. I know the terrain techniques that we discussed will work for you!!!!
Take Care,
JT
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You did a nice job Joel.
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Who makes a good bugle call for a beginner? I've got a Hunter's Specialty that is very limited on the call but you can't mess it up either.
I wish I could have attended the seminar.
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The experts know better than I, but I highly highly recommend learning to use a reed type mouth call then you ability to make all kinds of elk sounds increases 100 fold.
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Palmer,
Have you tried a diaphragm call??? If you can make some noise out of it without gagging, you are in business. I would highly recommend you learn how to use a diaphragm call. They make you extremely versatile in the woods. I use the Mini Master, and Raging Bull from Bugling Bull Game Calls. All of the Bugling Bulls calls seem to fit my mouth really well and the sounds are spot on!!!! You will have to find out what works for you and your palate. I wish you could come to one of my seminars. I am performing one on July 31st in Wenatchee at High Mt. Hunting Supply, August 15th at 3 rivers Archery in Longview, and August 22nd at Rainier Archery in Graham, WA. Also, don't worry about messing up a call,,,elk make some of the craziest sounds you have ever heard!!!! You just need to know some calling techniques and how to use the terrain to your advantage!!!
Take Care,
JT