Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: shootsalot on April 22, 2011, 08:48:04 PM
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so know i have the area that i'm going to hunt i just have to figure out what gran bullet i'm going to use. i'm tossed up right now about 130, 140 or 150 gran bullet to use. does anyone have any advice for me. everyone tell me the bigger the better but i'm think about 140 gran cause it a good all around bullet. i understand that 130 gran is the best gran for the 270. pls someone help me with some advice.thank you for you time in readding this. :dunno: :chuckle:
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I don't want to get too technical and start making this more difficult than it needs to be, but are there associated bullet styles that go along with these weight? And intended target/range?
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It really doesn't matter. I hunt with a 270 and generally with "cheap" bullets I like to go with the 150's. With "premium" bullets I go lighter. Lighter means less recoil, but other than that there really isn't an advantage. I've had good luck with 140 grain Barnes triple shocks, 150 grain Winchester Power Points, and 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips. Of course the most important thing is to find a bullet that your rifle "likes." Some rifles will prefer the 130 grain and others might like the 150 better. Some rifles shoot good enough with anything. The weight of the bullet matters less than what the bullet was designed for. Some open up fast and lose a lot of weight, and others don't expand as much, but retain a higher percentage of their weight, and therefore penetrate further. It's really just personal preference and what you're wanting in a bullet. But again, it's not the weight that matters. As long as you stay with 130 to 150 grain bullets, you'll be fine.
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What ever your gun will shoot best. I would try all 3 :IBCOOL:
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Yeah, try them all through your rifle. If you are going to be doing some reloading try each with your different charges etc. and get it dialed for your gun!
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Do you load your own bullets.. if so try 140 GR HORNADAY BTSP ...I wish I could convince everyone to shoot this bullet out of a .270... I use 54 gr. OF IMR 4831 WITH THE OVER ALL LENGTH SET AT 3.335" OF AN INCH... This load never let me down on elk or bear ...this group is at 100 yds shooting 3 shots every 10 minutes...
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9 SHOT GROUP .....
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I could be talking out my you know what by all means, but... In my opinion, once you get past the 120 grain bullet weight in high powered rifles it comes down to accuracy. People take down bull elk every year ethically with 25-06s. I think with a strong bullet from 130-150 will take down down anything in North America, find one you and your rifle like. On a side note, I plan on using a 130 Nosler Accubond for my 270 WSM that is in the process of being built.
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Like several others have said, use what your rifle likes. If you don't reload, the best thing you can do is buy a box of each factory load mentioned, go to the range, and try them out. I would then go with the round that groups the best. The differences might be minimal between all the rounds, but you'll be looking for groups of 1" or less at 100 yards (1 MOA or less). Good luck.
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Clark33 you are exactely right !! I am just giving the advice what I know from shooting thousands of rounds and and backing it up in the field.. The .270 was made for the 130 gr which is awesome but if you want to see game go down quicker try 140 gr...this bullet holds up better than ANY bullet I have loaded....PLUS like always it depends who is behind the trigger... Not being a sh-- h--d but I do not own a gun that does not shoot one in. groups at 100.. and I do own 2 25-06 s and the groups are sick as in ( better) peaceful talk ..taking 21 bear with this same bullet holds some serious respect ..... :dunno:
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What animal are you hunting? Heaver gr for elk and bear. I reload 160 gr Nosler Accubonds w/RL19 in my 7mm rem mag for deer and elk. Got a bad bone shot on my deer last year and it didn't wast must meat.
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I mostly hunt with my bow but do alot of shooting and I only hunt bear with my rifle and only because where I live all the shoots are usually over 200 due to the clearcuts and high mt. meadows... I always shoot deadcenter in the shoulder and the results have been the same time & time again....I dont like chasing woulded bear threw brush over my head... most of the bear i shoot are in heavy cover and I watched many roll down the mountain dead with one shot from my .270 and the 140 gr hornaday....but like I its all in the shooter... Pa ben we need to know each other a little better because I can tell your a turkey hunter and thats what i breath to do .. well over 100 gobblers under my belt and my boys are 15 and 16 now and have over 20 already /// we serious hurt some turkeys /// peace brother
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My father in law was a serious .270 winchester guy and a SERIOUS elk hunter. Before his death he took either 50 or 51 bull elk, the majority with the .270, maybe 2 or 3 with a 7mm, and he used a 130gr Sierra BT. Swore by it.
Personally I'm a fan of something heavier, 150's since there is really no downside outside of initial muzzle velocity leaving the barrel, though that evens up after a 100 yards or so with a 130.
I reckon it comes down to whatever shoots best in that particular rifle and what game you plan to hunt with it. My son swears by 140's and I can't fault that a bit since he's lost the same amount of game as his grandfathers 130's, zero. ;)
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Right on.... sierra bullet shoot awesome but loose alot of retension... but I shoot them alot on paper...... :hello:
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Shoot whatever shoots the best.
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The type of bullet is much more important than the weight. A 130 grain Barnes Triple Shock will retain nearly 100 percent of its weight. A 150 conventional jacketed bullet will probably retain around 50 to 60 percent of its weight. That means the Barnes goes in with 130 grains, and out with 129.9 grains. A 150 grain bullet designed to shed weight might come out (if it exits at all) with 80 or 90 grains left.
Really, in 95 percent of the cases it will not matter. Where it will matter is when you're taking a marginal shot at longer distances. Trying shooting through a bull elk lengthwise at 400 yards with a marginal bullet, and you'll probably wish you'd spent $1 more for a better bullet.
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I've recovered two Barnes bullets from elk. One was a 140 grain out of a 264 Win. Mag. It weighed 126 grains for 90% retention. The other was a 140 grain from my 270 Win. It also weighed 126 grains.
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I mostly hunt with my bow but do alot of shooting and I only hunt bear with my rifle and only because where I live all the shoots are usually over 200 due to the clearcuts and high mt. meadows... I always shoot deadcenter in the shoulder and the results have been the same time & time again....I dont like chasing woulded bear threw brush over my head... most of the bear i shoot are in heavy cover and I watched many roll down the mountain dead with one shot from my .270 and the 140 gr hornaday....but like I its all in the shooter... Pa ben we need to know each other a little better because I can tell your a turkey hunter and thats what i breath to do .. well over 100 gobblers under my belt and my boys are 15 and 16 now and have over 20 already /// we serious hurt some turkeys /// peace brother
What side do you hunt? I never have gotten an Eastern.
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westside ... easterns are tough down south ... Mainly finding places to hunt ...I have gotten 5 total in Washington and two were at johnson cr. but after dealing the people down there I quit going there.. the other three were in the capitol forest area but have not been down there in awhile neither .. I go back to Pennsylvania to hunt with my brother and dad every couple years .. So thats how I get most my easterns ...i used to hunt porcupine bay area alot in the late 90s early 2000 but some developer bought all the land and started leasing it ...I like up north just to many birds and alot of fun....I have 10 turkey mounts now so now its all about my kids....
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Any of the bullet weights mentioned will perform well. I'd recommend a 'super premium' bullet rather than concerning myself with weight. Any of the bonded core bullets or solid copper expanding bullets available today will out perfrom any of the similar weight bullets in a non-bonded bullet.
