Post by: washelkhntr on April 23, 2011, 11:15:12 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on April 23, 2011, 11:23:27 PM
Post by: fair-chase on April 24, 2011, 12:25:14 AM
By mid summer I'm thinking 5.50, by next summer 8-10. It really all depends. Will the middle east calm down anytime in the near future or will it continue to escalate? Will a version of cap and trade get pushed through before the end of this administration? Will Obama lighten restrictions on oil drilling and processing? After you answer these questions take a deep breath, a shot of whiskey, and buy a horse. :chuckle:
Post by: Lincoln4 on April 24, 2011, 05:44:33 AM
Post by: oldleclercrd on April 24, 2011, 08:36:16 AM
Post by: singleshot12 on April 24, 2011, 08:40:56 AM
High gas prices effect everything. Meanwhile the middle class go extinct!
Post by: jharstad on April 24, 2011, 09:25:27 AM
Post by: Button Nubbs on April 24, 2011, 09:37:06 AM
Post by: Rhinoron247 on April 24, 2011, 09:58:57 AM
Also, If you notice the auto industry capitalizes on the inflated fuel pricing by leaking out better fuel economy technology in the new cars that has been on the shelves for years. Our NEW 40 mpg cars are now running on 20 year old technology. :bash: :bash: :bash:
One would think as the MPG goes up and the fuel prices go up it should be a wash. But it's now!!
Post by: wsmnut on April 24, 2011, 10:25:22 AM
Latest excuse for high prices "The speculators" :bash: Hell why don't they just raise it up to $20 a gallon?
High gas prices effect everything. Meanwhile the middle class go extinct!
The speculation market is exactly the reason for high gas and oil prices. Congress refuses to reform the regulations on those markets. Drilling anywhere will not have any effect on these prices because any supply will be "speculated".
We have the best congress money can buy. And Big Oil and Big Banks own the congress.
Expect the wild ride to continue until there is some meaningful reform accomplished. These "patriots" that do this speculation are holding our economy hostage to their huge profits and bonuses.
Oil goes up, the national and world economy withers, and the middle class continues to disappear.
wsmnut
Post by: BigD on April 24, 2011, 10:35:55 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on April 24, 2011, 02:34:04 PM
Latest excuse for high prices "The speculators" :bash: Hell why don't they just raise it up to $20 a gallon?
High gas prices effect everything. Meanwhile the middle class go extinct!
The speculation market is exactly the reason for high gas and oil prices. Congress refuses to reform the regulations on those markets. Drilling anywhere will not have any effect on these prices because any supply will be "speculated".
We have the best congress money can buy. And Big Oil and Big Banks own the congress.
Expect the wild ride to continue until there is some meaningful reform accomplished. These "patriots" that do this speculation are holding our economy hostage to their huge profits and bonuses.
Oil goes up, the national and world economy withers, and the middle class continues to disappear.
wsmnut
Sorry sir, but this is incorrect. Supply and demand are exactly the reason for oil and gas prices, high or low. Sure, there are a slew of economic anomalies distorting what could be a simple graph of supply and demand (taxes, regulation, futures and options markets aka "speculators"), but at the end of the day, these are just influences, not the underlying determinant of market price.
Post by: alanger on April 24, 2011, 02:44:39 PM
Post by: jaymark6655 on April 24, 2011, 03:07:19 PM
Post by: mjbskwim on April 24, 2011, 04:06:09 PM
Get your tent ready,cause it will cost you $400 to drive the truck and camper to your unit.
Post by: Button Nubbs on April 24, 2011, 04:21:39 PM
Post by: alecvg on April 24, 2011, 04:32:29 PM
Post by: TheHunt on April 24, 2011, 06:48:21 PM
We could do the same for all rigs 1/2 ton and lighter. 3/4 and above could use gas or diesel therefore you still have the power needed for haul the heavy loads. But from what I hear pure alcohol is hard on an engine. But I do not know the details.
I do believe there are lots of big oil owns our congress...
Post by: tarbabyone on April 24, 2011, 07:09:15 PM
Post by: WonkyWapiti on April 24, 2011, 07:37:09 PM
Post by: hunter105 on April 24, 2011, 08:05:30 PM
Post by: Armadillo on April 24, 2011, 08:13:34 PM
I think there are more than 70 cents taxes on a gallon of gas.
Even when you take out the taxes the cost per gallon is horrendous..even when the cost per barrel is down the finished product does not reflect the proportion that was dropped. I've often wondered that
Post by: Alchase on April 25, 2011, 07:46:40 AM
Post by: Special T on April 25, 2011, 10:37:10 AM
I want to leave you with a couple of thoughts
I have an 84 4wd Subaru wagon that gets 30mpg
I have customers in BC that have 4wd 4door Toyota Hilux (Tacoma) diesel that get 35mpg lifted.
In Europe they make a diesel for my wife's ford focus that gets 55mpg
The STATE is going to start taxing ELETRIC cars because they pay enough tax
There is a reason they call oil BLACK GOLD!
Post by: MikeWalking on April 25, 2011, 10:45:52 AM
There is a bill trying to get on the floor that is trying to make the automobile industry to add $120.00 of additional equipment to run pure alcohol. Brazil runs their entire small automobiles off alcohol.
We could do the same for all rigs 1/2 ton and lighter. 3/4 and above could use gas or diesel therefore you still have the power needed for haul the heavy loads. But from what I hear pure alcohol is hard on an engine. But I do not know the details.
I do believe there are lots of big oil owns our congress...
Glad I'm not the only one to know that, about Brazil that is. They use Sugar Cane. Using the energy you could get from one gallon of gas they make 9 gallons of alcohol (corn is a 3 to 1 loss) You can get kits for under$400 to convert most cars, but what it does to engines I really don't know, or who to believe.