Post by: vandeman17 on April 27, 2011, 09:26:47 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 27, 2011, 09:40:54 AM
Post by: DoubleJ on April 27, 2011, 09:41:31 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 27, 2011, 09:42:50 AM
GPS, compass, maps, and the skills to use all of them correctly. I'm not sure how far from camp you'll be hunting, but a survival kit with a metal match, mirror, tin cup, fire starters, rubber tubing, extra knife, rope, space blanket, wire for snare, compact survival book, all closed up in a foodsaver bag. Again, the knowledge of how to use all of them.
That is a good point. I carry stuff like that but sometimes neglect them as essential or they slip your mind. He is going to get a nice pack so having space for the stuff shouldn't be an issue
Post by: Fish4Fun on April 27, 2011, 09:44:29 AM
Socks, socks, and more socks. Spend the money to get the good ones. Wet feet suck ass
And good boots that are broke in before the trip. Blistered feet have ruined more than one hunt before.
Post by: wapiti hunter2 on April 27, 2011, 09:45:19 AM
#2 Good binoculars. At least 10x50 and fully waterproof. There are a lot of good treads on here about what to get. View them as a major investment that will last for years. Probably be $$300 range or up.
#3 Good scope. View it as a major investment that will last for years. Probably be $$200 range or up.
#4 Good rain gear.
Post by: DoubleJ on April 27, 2011, 09:46:09 AM
I made that mistake my first year. I bought a BIG pack and stuffed it with everything I thought I'd need for a day of hunting. By hour 2, I was dropping stuff and telling myself I'd pick it up on the hike back out.
Post by: fair-chase on April 27, 2011, 09:46:45 AM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 27, 2011, 09:47:05 AM
Post by: ORCA_SIX on April 27, 2011, 10:12:13 AM
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on April 27, 2011, 10:27:29 AM
Post by: RClare1223 on April 27, 2011, 11:00:28 AM
Post by: uplandhunter870 on April 27, 2011, 11:17:47 AM
thermal clothing, preferably layerable types you never know what weather the mountains will throw at you. i believe its better to strip layers than have and all or nothing coat
a decent to good quality rifle scope
lots of socks, i can attest that getting athletes foot on day 3 of a 7 day hunt sucks really bad
good knife
good quality pack that fits well
map and compass and know how to read them
not sure if he is new to rifles or not but if he is i would strongly advise shooting the new rifle a lot over the summer to get the practice in and build some marksmanship skills, no use hunting if you cant shoot straight
Post by: Todd_ID on April 27, 2011, 01:52:18 PM
Post by: Rgrady35 on April 27, 2011, 02:04:11 PM
Post by: GreatWhiteHunter on April 27, 2011, 02:05:36 PM
Baby wipes.
:yeah:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: vandeman17 on April 27, 2011, 02:10:06 PM
Post by: huntlakewood on April 27, 2011, 02:31:44 PM
Post by: elksnout on April 27, 2011, 07:57:19 PM
Post by: kglacken on April 27, 2011, 08:17:28 PM
1. Gloves
2. Hand warmers
3. Good Boots
4. Snow gear
5. Binoculars and covers
You can have the best gun and ammo but if you are too cold, not comfy, or cant see the deer, it won't do you any good! Best of luck on your trip!
Post by: Armadillo on April 27, 2011, 09:54:42 PM
Post by: Todd_ID on April 27, 2011, 09:59:06 PM
c'mon guys.. first time! Just tell him to shove some TP in his back pocket, load his gun, strap on some cheap bushnells and have at it. Is this a for sure thing that he'll be doing again and again?Good point!
I used to shoot a lot more and better critters with just a bow, pocket knife and tennis shoes than I ever do now with GPS, binos, and a pack full of really expensive stuff.
Post by: Alpine Mojo on April 27, 2011, 10:02:12 PM
...spend that $300-400 that would have went to a scope on upgrades in boots...and gym membership.
Best advice by far.
Post by: spookgus on April 27, 2011, 10:39:48 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 28, 2011, 06:56:05 AM
The rookie must have thick skin because he will undoubtedly be nominated as camp boss. Camp boss settles all disputes and assigns all camp duties. The rookie camp boss is only over ruled by veterans which is everyone since the camp boss is always the rookie. Is there anything like hunting camp??
Basic maybe.
Post by: GoldTip on April 28, 2011, 07:20:03 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on April 28, 2011, 10:01:59 AM
1. Rifle
2. Scope (best you can afford)
3. Binos (best you can afford)
4. Boots (best you can afford)
5. Knife
6. Light pack with a hydration system
7. Black electrical tape
8. Windicator or Smoke in a Bottle
9. Wool everything if you can manage it
10. As much practice out on the rifle range as you can manage
Post by: KNOPHISH on April 29, 2011, 06:07:51 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 29, 2011, 10:11:26 AM
Rook needs to get out & do some shooting asap. Not just sighting in. How green is he really, Can he go off by himself or need to be with another? We still work hill sides a few hundred yards apart. Radio's are good to keep in touch.
He is pretty green but I am confident that he is smart enough to know his own abilities and not push the envelope with regards to how far he ventures from us on his own and all that. My plan is to be with him most of the time to not only coach him but to also hopefully be there to watch him shoot his first buck. :IBCOOL:
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on April 29, 2011, 10:18:25 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 29, 2011, 10:27:49 AM
take him to the top of the mountain in the dark and tell him to meet ya at camp before dark !!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: Just messing with ya !!!
I will have to make sure it is on one of those foggy mornings too where you can't see 20 feet in front of your face. :chuckle:
Post by: cwuwildcat on April 29, 2011, 10:40:23 AM
Baby wipes.
:yeah:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
The non-scented kind. His wife/girlfriend might be impressed that his butt smells like a baby, but the animals will not! I can work up a sweat fast, and use them to defunkafy myself as well as for toilet paper. The scented kind can be smelled for miles!
Post by: coachcw on April 29, 2011, 12:28:36 PM
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Post by: crabcreekhunter on May 02, 2011, 11:25:56 PM
Post by: twinners on May 03, 2011, 09:16:37 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on May 03, 2011, 01:15:04 PM
A roll of the bright orange tape/ribbon for marking a trail or where an animal is.
That is a good one. I plan on being with him most the time but you never know if we get split up for some reason.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 03, 2011, 01:41:22 PM
Post by: Special T on May 03, 2011, 02:43:30 PM
B Boots
C Ten Essentials
1. Map
2. Compass
3. Flashlight/headlamp (be sure to have an extra set of batteries that fit your flashlight/headlamp)
4. Extra food (enough for one extra day)
5. Extra clothing
6. Rain gear ( jacket and pants-always carry rain gear even if the sun is out)
7. First aid supplies (be sure to include an extra day of any medication you are taking or might need in an emergency)
8. Pocket knife
9. Matches (stored in a water tight container in addition to matches or a butane lighter)
10. Fire starter (can be candles, chemical fire starter, backpack size fire logs)
I think people over think camo and clothes too much, and often spend too much as well. I love wool, but have used Basic fleece often because it is light, cheep, & breathable When its cold i have often put on a fleece layer, water wind proof layer then flece again. I often use my Grey fleece sweats and Green shorts under that has lots of pockets. A fleece jacket and vest. some kind of cheep rain gear. As long as your moving you'll stay warm its when you stop is when you suffer. :twocents:
Post by: 7mag. on May 03, 2011, 03:54:55 PM
Post by: twinners on May 03, 2011, 11:59:20 PM
Post by: rgalanti21 on May 29, 2011, 08:31:36 PM
Post by: flinger on May 29, 2011, 09:02:49 PM
if nothing else comes from it .lt will at least give you an insight on how much you have to "babysit"and how confident you should be with his outdoor skills :twocents:
Post by: deerslyr on May 31, 2011, 10:18:21 PM
The first couple years of hunting are more of a learning experience than anything else
Post by: Kowsrule30 on June 01, 2011, 02:09:02 AM
Post by: Jingles on June 01, 2011, 06:28:41 AM
Where this person has never been hunting before Lots of time at the range with whatever gun he uses. Also MY recommendation would be to not to let him go by himself as when he gets his deer, and he will just because of beginners luck, he is gonna need someone to dress it out for him so it is done right and he doesn't try to drag it back to camp whole, Damn deer are heavy enough without an additional 70 pounds of entrails. Let him see what you have impressing on him that it has taken you X number of years to accumulate and he can decide what he can afford. If money doesn't matter send him to me and I'll help him spend his money
Post by: swanny on June 01, 2011, 08:38:54 AM
Keep it simple on what he NEEDS, Wool pants= can be purchased at an Army surplus store. Wool Jacket/ shirt Same place for purchase. He Does need to invest in a GOOD pair of boots. I have a pair of Whites pack boots w/ the wool liners that are the cats meow for keeping my feet dry and warm. Take the liners out at night in camp and they are dry in the morning. Wet from perspiration, can even get a second pair of liners. Orange or green flagging tape and a partial roll of tp for marking blood trail can use a single sheet at each or every other blood spot. TP also melts with the first rain and you can see where the deer has been to give you an idea of back trail taken in case you loose the trail. A bottle or 2 of water, candy bars or high energy snacks, Waterproof matches, TP can also serve as Fire starter if brown pine needles aren't available although a manufactured firestarter is guaranteed to be available if you have it. Good comfortable sleeping bag and cot. While at the the Surplus store have him consider one of the canteens with the metal canteen cup, Makes a great way to heat up water for a drink if absolutely necessary and can be heated over an extremely small, smokless fire Plus serves as the water for the day.
Where this person has never been hunting before Lots of time at the range with whatever gun he uses. Also MY recommendation would be to not to let him go by himself as when he gets his deer, and he will just because of beginners luck, he is gonna need someone to dress it out for him so it is done right and he doesn't try to drag it back to camp whole, Damn deer are heavy enough without an additional 70 pounds of entrails. Let him see what you have impressing on him that it has taken you X number of years to accumulate and he can decide what he can afford. If money doesn't matter send him to me and I'll help him spend his money
Good advice IMO. Keep everything simple, chances are once he starts spending on a rifle, scope, binos, boots, and maybe a chest bino harness because of how handy and stable they are, he will be second guessing this b/c it costs so much already. Besides those 4 items, real basic items are all one needs, essentially the 10 essentials. Enough to let you SURVIVE for a night or two, they aren't meant to make you be comfortable while surviving. These essentials can easily fit in a 1200 (20L) day pack.
Hunt with him and show him the ropes, having someone with you to get your first animal would be a more exciting time anyways, b/c someone gets to share that time with you. Make the hunt enjoyable, don't try and kick his butt by hiking extreme distances the very first day. Make him want to wake up the next morning and go out again.
Post by: Huntnphish on June 01, 2011, 02:44:29 PM
If you were taking him, what would you say are the essential things for him to buy.
I think even more important than what he should buy would be to make sure he ALWAYS had someone with him and did not hunt alone, with 6 people in camp there should be no reason for him to be out there by himself. :twocents:
Post by: gtrplr on June 03, 2011, 03:09:03 PM
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Post by: runningboard on June 04, 2011, 12:14:07 PM
agree with those that mentioned foot care. but when I went to Africa my family & I bought good but cheap hikers from Big-5 & gave 'em to our guides & their children when we left the country, you can get good hikers without breaking the bank, just break them in before hand. we aso took cheap $25-30 binos for all except mine, they worked fine until it started getting darker & then mine were the only ones gathering enough light, but for a newbie? they'd work. practice @ the range like many mentioned, from field positions though not just benching it with bags. good luck to you all.
Post by: bullchaser on June 05, 2011, 12:55:08 AM
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Post by: dscubame on June 05, 2011, 12:10:09 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 05, 2011, 12:11:30 PM
If the rookie is bowhunting a good quality flashlight attached to the bow to help see the game in early morning and late evening situations.
:chuckle:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 05, 2011, 12:37:25 PM
Post by: BPturkeys on June 05, 2011, 01:12:28 PM
OK, there is a list on http://www.muleymadness.com/other/checklist.php (http://www.muleymadness.com/other/checklist.php) that is actually pretty darn complete, but 50 years of deers huntin has given me the insight to make a few additions, here is what I recommend:
1. Beer. Take plenty of beer. With global warming upon us, you just can't have too much!
2. Spare gas. On a normal deers hunt, I've been know to run through 100-200 gals. Of course I am old school and still drive a big old pickup to do my day-to-day huntin. You might cut down on that figure ifin you dive an ATV.
3. Extra condoms. I always keep one on the end of the barrel of the gun. Not that you're going to get any rain or anything like that down the barrel beins you're mostly in the truck, but those rough roads can make a guy spill his beer from time to time.
4. A good pair of really dark sunglasses. Not only will they help with that God awful bright morning sun, but will cosmetically improve your appearance over those enlarged eyeball blood vessels that you get every year up deers huntin...I am sure it's allergies.
5. A Briggs and Stratton 8 ½ hp generator. Those fancy quiet running jobs they been bringin' in from foreign countries...they're just downright un-American. Besides that, it takes bookoo power ta keep that much beer cold. A lot of times I've had to let that bad boy run all night or else risk warm beer in the mornin!
6. Plenty of ammo. Once you get camp set up, ya still got ta get old Betsey sighted in. Don't worry about targets, should be enough empty cans laying around camp to sight in all the guns in Sherman's army.
7. Your 9mm. Nothing better than running through four or five boxes of ammo while your sitting around camp trying to figure out which road to try later on this evenin. Here again, should be plenty of cans for plinkin at.
8. Lots of Chili and beans. Might be the only time you'll get to “not” notice the effects of ten grown men with a gut full of beans, given the fact you're sleeping off the effects of the beer chasers.
9. And last but not least, your brother-in-law. While the two of you are sittin around the campfire loudly singing good old bawdy songs, there's a good chance he'll forgive you once and for all for defiling his little sister before ya married her, low, those many years ago.