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Big Game Hunting => Other Big Game => Topic started by: flysar on May 11, 2011, 10:33:20 PM
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Yesterday morning I found 1 of our 4 goats dead; 99% sure it was a cougar kill.
I called state dispatch and they put me in touch with the on call officer for Klickitat County and he gave me permission to kill this cougar on my property before I ever took the first shot. If I was unsuccessful he planned to get a tracker on it.
Set up my blind 20yds away from the kill and set up my game camera. Planned to sit the kill from 7pm until I couldn't keep my eyes open. I prepositioned all of my gear including my 12ga loaded with 00 Buck and my 12" 375JDJ Contender loaded with 220gr FN.
At 6:58 I looked out the bedroom window and sitting over the kill was the cat about 70 yds from my back door. I scrambled to the safe loaded my .270, got a little buck fever and missed.
I sat in the blind until 11pm and couldn't keep my eyes open any longer so came in. At 12:10 I woke up and thought I saw a flash from the game camera, not sure, I waited until I got a couple more flashes so I knew he was back on the kill.
I reloaded my 270, walked my fence line trying to get within range of a spotlight shot. I could see eyes when using my red lens headlamp but when I tried to use my spotlight for the shot he disappeared. Because I was close to my blind I slipped in and about 20 minutes later I heard him dragging our goat, now 40+ yds away from the blind. When I spotlighted the area I settled the croshairs behind the front shoulder and dropped the Tom in his tracks.
The Tom was probably a juvenile , hardly a scratch on him and teeth were not dulled. He was 6'4" long and I'm guessing 120-140lbs.
Game Officer came this morning, we chatted, he took some pictures and left with the cat. Hopefully the cat was working alone.
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Nice, he is about 100 pounds if you weighed him. Glad you were able to kill him before it did more damage
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Nice work! Saved a few deer with that kill.
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Very nice! Must've been an exciting night! What are you gonna do with the cat?
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Very nice! Must've been an exciting night! What are you gonna do with the cat?
Game officer picked it up this morning. No personal gain for depredation kills.
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Nice, he is about 100 pounds if you weighed him. Glad you were able to kill him before it did more damage
Thanks
I didn't put him on a scale, I was using my goats live weight from last month as a comparison, they felt about the same.
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Cool. To bad you lost a goat in the process.
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That cat has some big paws. Looks good to. Sorry about the goat. Do you get the cat back?
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Great looking lion but hopefully you can find a way to get it back... sorry to hear about your goat...
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Glad you were able to get him quickly. Good set up obviously and the cat wasn't concerned with the lights and getting shot at the first time.
Good job!
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nice cat, to bad you had to loose one of your goats,will the game dept. pay for the loss of the goat, just curious.
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Good work, flysar! At least you got some good pictures out of it. Sorry about your goat.
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I love the picture of you holding that cat up, it really shows off the paws. I have killed a large one also (it made a 102" rug). You don't get to do that very many times in a lifetime. Congratulations.
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Almost looks like another cat in the top right corner of the first photo. Just sitting up on hill watching.
Too bad they won't let you keep it. >:(
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Great story! Congrats on the cat
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man, you got a bigger set than I do, don't know if I'd be putting the close stalk on at night with a animal that can see at night and stalks for a living lol, glad you bagged him though!
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Good job!!!
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thats sweet,to bad ya had to lose a goat,does the state give you any money for the loss of the goat???
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What in turn does the state do with these? Bucklucky
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Nice job saving a herd of deer. Beautiful cat!
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Way to go! Nice to see an aggressive cat like that removed.
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very niiice, and glad to hear the state was fast in allowing you to do what you needed to, bummer they took it. thats a healthy looking cat!
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Very nice work. It would be fun chase and treed. :chuckle:
This is 3 rd cougars killed in this close area with in two months. :yike:
Way too many cats.
Mulehunter.
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I wasn't going to call the state and take care of it myself but figured I'd do it right and see what the answer would be. Pleasantly surprised when the state gave me permission, on the spot, without a lot of questions of my motives.
I told the game officer that I had a cougar tag in my pocket for this year as I have done for 20 years previous. He said no cougar, no skull, no hint of personal gain; fair enough, I did get some good pictures.
The officer said after recording some information about the cat they generally reintroduce it to nature, translation, dump it in the woods somewhere... GPS coordinates would be nice!
Never thought about compensation, probably won't ask, figured it's part of life in this part of the country.
Thanks for all of the comments, definitely an experience I'll remember, hopefully the cat was a loner - time will tell.
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Very nice work. It would be fun chase and treed. :chuckle:
This is 3 rd cougars killed in this close area with in two months. :yike:
Way too many cats.
Mulehunter.
The officer told me the same thing, I guess 2 cats from the same farm, that is why I'm keeping a closer eye - May have to pick up another game cam for monitoring.
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Great write up, great photos, congrats!! Thanks for sharing with us!
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I wasn't going to call the state and take care of it myself but figured I'd do it right and see what the answer would be. Pleasantly surprised when the state gave me permission, on the spot, without a lot of questions of my motives.
You did the right thing. It would've been nice if they'd let you keep it. Rules is rules.
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Awesome cat! Was Bolten the officer that responded?
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Awesome cat! Was Bolten the officer that responded?
No, it was Frank Imbrie... very professional man to talk with.
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Pretty cat. Its a shame they dont let you keep it, although I see their point. Glad to hear you got it.
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Nice job!
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good job on getting rid of him :tup:
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The game dept guys down there seem to have things figured out. I talked with Bolten last year while I was guiding on the Klick. I had a modern deer tag in my pocket but no time to hunt and saw a gut shot 3 pt up above Stinson laying along the river. I told him about it and he said if I could go in and get it he wouldn't have any problem with me putting a tag on it. I went back in the next morning in a down pour and it was gone. Hated knowing that animal was off suffering somewhere...
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Nice. Too bad you couldnt keep it. I dont really understand the "no benefit from depredation". I guess they dont trust their officers to determine it was a justifiable kill and would rather waste the animal than let it be used.
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Can u freeze the remains and set them back out when the season opens? may get another one that you can keep.
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To bad you couldn't keep the cape and mount the cougar. What a bummer about the goats. I'm glad I don't have cougars nearby, we have two foals and a goat.
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Nice. Too bad you couldnt keep it. I dont really understand the "no benefit from depredation". I guess they dont trust their officers to determine it was a justifiable kill and would rather waste the animal than let it be used.
I think when it is a clear case like this, dead domestic animal and it clearly was shot on my property (I didnt go out hunting for it), it would be nice if they made an exception.
I can also see the flip side and wonder how many hours they might spend trying to prove that a cat was shot by some one trying to protect themselves or property so it makes sense that there is no personal incentive to kill a cat other than protection of self or property.
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Nice. Too bad you couldnt keep it. I dont really understand the "no benefit from depredation". I guess they dont trust their officers to determine it was a justifiable kill and would rather waste the animal than let it be used.
I think when it is a clear case like this, dead domestic animal and it clearly was shot on my property (I didnt go out hunting for it), it would be nice if they made an exception.
I can also see the flip side and wonder how many hours they might spend trying to prove that a cat was shot by some one trying to protect themselves or property so it makes sense that there is no personal incentive to kill a cat other than protection of self or property.
I agree. Should be officer/biologist discretion. They are going to do a investigation no matter what so I dont think that is really a concern.
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Great story. Thanks for the great story along with the pics.
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Nice job on the kill, I've got 2 free Nubians if you want them.
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:tup:
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Very nice job and very exciting. You will remember that hunt for a long time.
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Loved reading the story and seeing such great pics!
That thing was a BEAST!!!
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Personaly , I think that the cougar should have been given to you. As far as Im conderned its waisting a big game animal if thats what the game department is doing with them. Perfectly fresh kill, the meat is good , it should be consumed. Fish and wild life needs to pull there head out of there ass and make some common sence calls with things like this. :bash:
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I see your point Charlie, but I also gotta give WDFW credit on this one. They let the guy kill a cougar out of season and even let him do it at night with aid of a spotlight (both punishible offenses). It's nice to see them at least give him permission to remove the animal from his area -- which in the end, is the wanted result. :twocents:
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Good job. Too bad all that meat will go to waste. I'm sure there's a lot of hungry people out there who sure could benefit.
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I see your point Charlie, but I also gotta give WDFW credit on this one. They let the guy kill a cougar out of season and even let him do it at night with aid of a spotlight (both punishible offenses). It's nice to see them at least give him permission to remove the animal from his area -- which in the end, is the wanted result. :twocents:
Are we allowed to shoot cougar in night and use spotlight on general season ? Look like I could do that this coming fall since gamewarden down there said ok......... :yike:
Mulehunter. :chuckle:
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Nice story. Fun adventure at least.
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Dude thats awesome .. plus killer pictures and more importantly some spring time excitement,,,to bad for the goat .To bad they would not let you have it .. thats bullsh$t...
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I see your point Charlie, but I also gotta give WDFW credit on this one. They let the guy kill a cougar out of season and even let him do it at night with aid of a spotlight (both punishible offenses). It's nice to see them at least give him permission to remove the animal from his area -- which in the end, is the wanted result. :twocents:
Are we allowed to shoot cougar in night and use spotlight on general season ? Look like I could do that this coming fall since gamewarden down there said ok......... :yike:
Mulehunter. :chuckle:
yeah thats crazy .. but they can give authority in a situation like that ..they should let him keep it too ...what are they doing with it ?
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I cant wait to hunt cougar this year.. it will be my first time
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verry nice job. in my opinion this is an open and shut case. a shell case that is. shoot and shovel. protect what is yours. loose lips sink ships. well done.
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That's a sweet way to bag a cougar!
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Look like a fun plan. If u ever own a cute ranch.
Would it be fun to go shopping few pet goats off Craiglist and set in back yard to let them eat grass and wait.
Mulehunter. :chuckle:
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Nice you bagged the cougar(looks like a good eater). You should Have been aloud to keep the Cat in exchange for loosing the goat tho :twocents:
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What a great story and pics. Excellent writting. Thanks.
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congrats on the cat....
Personaly , I think that the cougar should have been given to you. As far as Im conderned its waisting a big game animal if thats what the game department is doing with them. Perfectly fresh kill, the meat is good , it should be consumed. Fish and wild life needs to pull there head out of there ass and make some common sence calls with things like this.
I agree. It started out where some were donated to the person losing the livestock, but jealous hunters ruined that by complaining, so nobody gets to keep them now. It is a total waste.
WDFW should man up and just set some policies so that the animals can be used. :twocents:
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This incident still is not showing up on the WDFW site. I wonder how many other incidents dont make it on the list.
Dangerous Wildlife Incidents in Washington in the last 30 days
May 20, 2011 – Ocean Shores, Grays Harbor County (Cougar)
May 17, 2011 – Yakima, Yakima County (Cougar)
May 16, 2011 – Mansfield, Douglas County (Cougar)
May 13, 2011 – Leavenworth, Chelan County (Cougar)
May 5, 2011 – White Salmon, Klickitat County (Cougar)
May 1, 2011 – Cashmere, Chelan County (Cougar)
May 1, 2011 – Twisp, Okanogan County (Cougar)
April 28, 2011 – , Asotin County (Wolf)
April 28, 2011 – Tum Tum, Stevens County (Cougar)
April 26, 2011 – Royal City, Grant County (Cougar)
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A wolf incident just last month? How in the world could this be?
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A wolf incident just last month? How in the world could this be?
Not really. Another "unable to verify". :rolleyes:
Wolf
DESCRIPTION OF INCIDENT
ON 04/30/11 AT 0700 HOURS, I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM WDFW AREA BIOLOGIST. HE ADVISED ME THAT HE HAD BEEN NOTIFIED BY A WDFW EMPLOYEE OF A WOLF ATTACK ON A CALF IN ASOTIN COUNTY. THE INFORMATION WAS THAT LOCAL CATTLEMAN HAD BEEN AT HIS FEED LOT ON COUSE CREEK THE NIGHT BEFORE, WHEN HE CAME ACROSS 3 WOLVES ON A CALF KILL. HE REPORTED THAT HE WALKED WITHIN 15 FEET OF THE 3 WOLVES, WHO STOOD THEIR GROUND AGRESSIVELY AND GROWLED AT HIM. THEY FINALLY LEFT THE AREA. IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE "WOLVES" WERE NOT AGGRESSIVE AND RAN AWAY. USDA WILDLIFE SVC ARRIVED AND CONDUCTED AN EXAMINATION OF THE SCENE. BASED ON THE INFORMATION AT THE SCENE AND LACK OF ANY PHYSICAL EVIDENCE AND THE STATEMENT FROM THE EMPLOYEE WHO WAS AT THE SCENE, WE WERE UNABLE TO VERIFY THE WOLF REPORT. IT SEEMS MORE LIKELY THAT THE INCIDENT WAS A COYOTE DEPREDATION.
REPORT INFORMATION
Date/Time of Incident: April 28, 2011 @ 20:00
Date of Report: April 30, 2011
Location: COUSE CREEK RD
County: Asotin
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Imagine that, no way a life time rancher could recognize a yote or not, especially in Asotin county :o
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or Bigfoot. Did ya consider that?
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Look at the mitts on that youngster.
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Sounds like a good reason to lose sleep to me.
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Way to go!
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good job! way to do it the right way. too bad you couldnt keep the meat and cape.
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Awesome cat! Was Bolten the officer that responded?
No, it was Frank Imbrie... very professional man to talk with.
I had the pleasure of meeting Imbrie a couple weeks ago. Very nice and professional, only problem was he wouldn't tell me where the bears were ;) We went down a logging road that usually has the gate closed but it was open this time. We started to drive down it then thought better and parked on the other side of the road. About a mile in, we heard someone behind us and it was Imbrie. He asked if we saw anyone else drive in there and we said no, but we thought about it. He said good thing you didn't. He checked my license and tags and we just chatted for a bit then he left. I wish Bolten would take some lessons from him.
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Nice job on the cat... At least you have pictures... Congrats