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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: smartazz171 on May 14, 2011, 02:39:24 PM

Title: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: smartazz171 on May 14, 2011, 02:39:24 PM: Alright so looking at making Permit app choices I see a new unit for elk, ten ten. But looking at the elk area onset map it looks like ten ten includes all elk areas 1011 and 1012 which mAke up 1010... Is that right? So no permit is given for just 1011 or 1012? And next how does that differ from just applying for Dayton tags (I know the 1010 tag also includes gmu 163) I'm just confused on our wonderful wdfw and their borders and permits..... Any insight would be appreciated. :bash:
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: Bob33 on May 14, 2011, 03:34:50 PM: Elk Area 1010 is five separate sections in Dayton GMU 162 (green lines on my map.).

Elk areas 1011 and 1012 are enclosed with 1010.

GMU 163 is Marengo and is the north of GMU 162 (red line on my map.)
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Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: smartazz171 on May 14, 2011, 06:09:09 PM: Ok so if I did understand that right, why would wdfw put two different elk units but combine them as 1 tag? Seems stupid to me ....
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: SkookumHntr on May 14, 2011, 06:18:42 PM: -Then dont apply for any of them :tup:
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: smartazz171 on May 14, 2011, 08:14:39 PM: Touché..... But what do I expect, trying to figure out the why behind wdfw is like trying to figure out why some "trophy hunters" are the same guys that drive endless roads but never get out of the truck
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: dscubame on May 14, 2011, 08:26:39 PM: We have a lively one here. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: Scott on May 14, 2011, 08:43:40 PM: Quote from: SkookumHntr on May 14, 2011, 06:18:42 PM
-Then dont apply for any of them :tup:
:yeah:
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: BENCHLEG on May 14, 2011, 11:26:51 PM: its all about money. :twocents: :twocents:
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: BLUEBULLS on May 14, 2011, 11:38:04 PM: Quote from: BENCHLEG on May 14, 2011, 11:26:51 PM
its all about money. :twocents: :twocents:

It's all about crop damage. All of tenten is private with very limited access.
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: trophyhunt on May 15, 2011, 07:06:45 AM: I read in here that those permits that are on private propery are given out in lew of the owners filing claims with the state for elk damage. They are not supposed to charge you, and I would think that letting you hunt there property would go along with the deal. But I've been wrong before.
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: 400out on May 15, 2011, 09:01:28 AM: Quote from: trophyhunt on May 15, 2011, 07:06:45 AM
I read in here that those permits that are on private propery are given out in lew of the owners filing claims with the state for elk damage. They are not supposed to charge you, and I would think that letting you hunt there property would go along with the deal. But I've been wrong before.
I think you will be suprised at how much of the land you will be able to look at and that's it! Many farmers will take the damage from the elk before letting a stranger ( west sider! how they see most anymore ) on the land :twocents:
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: trophyhunt on May 15, 2011, 10:48:35 AM: I'm not applying for that area but if I was, I would get some solid answers from somone at fish and game.
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: Todd_ID on May 15, 2011, 03:07:16 PM: 1010 is just the Marengo unit and Dayton unit minus the National Forest part of the Dayton unit. So it's basically a private land hunt with a couple token sections of state land thrown in to let you feel like you have a place to go. Great hunt if you have relatives with land there.
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: NoBark on May 15, 2011, 04:22:18 PM: Actually, they divided the number of Dayton tags in half and gave half to the 'Ten Ten' elk area. (at least the archery tags) So, with only two quality elk choices instead of putting in for two units some will now put in for Dayton and Ten Ten and use both choices for the same 14 (archery) tags. Last year they would have put in for say, Dayton and Tucannon. So, If you are putting in for Tucannon, I would guess that they're are fewer applicants for that unit, because some chose both Dayton and 1010.
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: Caseyd on May 15, 2011, 04:42:32 PM: Quote from: Todd_ID on May 15, 2011, 03:07:16 PM
1010 is just the Marengo unit and Dayton unit minus the National Forest part of the Dayton unit. So it's basically a private land hunt with a couple token sections of state land thrown in to let you feel like you have a place to go. Great hunt if you have relatives with land there.
:yeah:
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: Bob33 on May 15, 2011, 05:05:37 PM: Quote from: Caseyd on May 15, 2011, 04:42:32 PM
Quote from: Todd_ID on May 15, 2011, 03:07:16 PM
1010 is just the Marengo unit and Dayton unit minus the National Forest part of the Dayton unit. So it's basically a private land hunt with a couple token sections of state land thrown in to let you feel like you have a place to go. Great hunt if you have relatives with land there.
:yeah:
If you're referring to Elk Area 1010, it is entirely within the Dayton GMU, not the Marengo GMU.
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: NoBark on May 17, 2011, 05:07:44 PM: That's true Bob. 1010 is all within the Dayton unit. BUT, if you are applying for the special permit hunt called 'ten-ten', the discription of area list elk unit 1010 PLUS the marengo unit (163?) So, I think this is where confusion is coming from. wdfw (old Native american word for confusion) Hahahaha
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: Mr Mykiss on July 07, 2011, 09:49:27 AM: So who drew these 1010 tags? Are they any good?
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: piledup on July 07, 2011, 01:31:35 PM: Quote from: Mr Mykiss on July 07, 2011, 09:49:27 AM
So who drew these 1010 tags? Are they any good?

No good because bfoot took them all out. :P
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: Kowsrule30 on July 07, 2011, 02:27:14 PM: I wouldn't waste my time applying for a tag where I didn't already have a place to hunt.... :twocents: If there is any question about access and scouting I will not apply..... Good luck!!!!
Title: Re: Permit question Dayton area wdfw messup?
Post by: Mr Mykiss on July 08, 2011, 10:58:36 AM: Quote from: Kowsrule30 on July 07, 2011, 02:27:14 PM
I wouldn't waste my time applying for a tag where I didn't already have a place to hunt.... :twocents: If there is any question about access and scouting I will not apply..... Good luck!!!!

You should catch the threads on OR's huntin/Fishin websites regarding the Willamette 600 series tags, you'd love it!!