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Other Activities => Fishing => Topic started by: Swatson on May 15, 2011, 09:56:35 AM

Title: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: Swatson on May 15, 2011, 09:56:35 AM: I can't help but notice while out on the lakes all the people that register their dinghys! Do people not know that if its under 16 feet and under 10hp they don't have to register it? Unless your going in federal waters its not required and I'm assuming these little boats aren't going in federal waters!
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: Hunterman on May 15, 2011, 10:07:41 AM: Probably because there are some lakes the are classified as "Navigational Waters" thats why..

Hunterman(Tony
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: runamuk on May 15, 2011, 10:16:00 AM: Quote from: Hunterman on May 15, 2011, 10:07:41 AM
Probably because there are some lakes the are classified as "Navigational Waters" thats why..

Hunterman(Tony

lots and lots of them far safer to be tagged up than risk a ticket
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: Swatson on May 15, 2011, 10:19:42 AM: Quote from: Hunterman on May 15, 2011, 10:07:41 AM
Probably because there are some lakes the are classified as "Navigational Waters" thats why..

Hunterman(Tony

Yea maybe but I'm bettin the majority of these boats are only fishing the small little lakes close to home and people are registering them just because they don't know.
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: pjb3 on May 15, 2011, 11:55:22 AM: :yeah:
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: ORCA_SIX on May 15, 2011, 01:15:56 PM: Yeah, I looked into to when I had a small 10 footer with a 55lb thrust electric. I looked at the laws and saw that I was good. Not to many probably look at the regs and what necessitates registration. Thus why they register.

All you need to do is go to the Dept. of Licensing and it states it pretty clearly.
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: CamoDup on May 15, 2011, 01:19:02 PM: who cares?? :dunno: better safe then sorry
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: bobcat on May 15, 2011, 01:20:33 PM: Why pay for it if you don't have to? That would be like registering your bicycle as if it was a motorcycle. :dunno:

I'm actually surprised that they even allow people to register a vehicle that isn't one that needs to be registered.
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: PolarBear on May 15, 2011, 01:24:19 PM: I licence mine because technically, a dinghy or tender if used in conjunction with a larger boat is to be used to go to and from shore only. If you want to take it out for a ride, kids want to play around in it or go fishing, it needs to be registered. I have a 9 foot inflatable with a 8 hp on my 34' Tollycraft and was told by a WDFW officer that it needed to be registered if used for anything other than ship to shore, so I looked it up for myself and did just that. Better safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: pjb3 on May 15, 2011, 03:18:53 PM: Quote from: bobcat on May 15, 2011, 01:20:33 PM

I'm actually surprised that they even allow people to register a vehicle that isn't one that needs to be registered.

U actually don't think "THEY" will turn down money do you?
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: Rick on May 16, 2011, 05:20:14 PM: Quote from: Hunterman on May 15, 2011, 10:07:41 AM
Probably because there are some lakes the are classified as "Navigational Waters" thats why..

Hunterman(Tony

Yep,the list of navigable waters is pretty long.

There are a lot of guys that crab in the sound with their "dingys" and they're required to be registered.

I have my 14' Lund registered because its only about $20. The places that I fish that require it to be registered are...

Lake Washington
Lake Sammamish
Snohomish River
Columbia River (Rufus Woods or Drano Lake)
Puget Sound
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: dscubame on May 16, 2011, 05:27:12 PM: I once had a 15hp outboard that I put a 9hp sticker on just for that reason. I was in college / broke and would not do that today as I would pay my share.
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: Swatson on May 16, 2011, 05:27:39 PM: yea I'm talkin 8ft dinghys and the likes, again a lot of these folks I'm sure just don't know!
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: Huntbear on May 16, 2011, 05:30:05 PM: I thought you had to register your wives and such to use them as boats???? :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: BigGoonTuna on May 16, 2011, 06:16:09 PM: i've always wondered that too, you see them all over the thurston county lakes, little 8-10 footers that have probably never left the lake or seen a motor.
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: Sneaky on May 19, 2011, 04:15:45 PM: anyone know where this information can be found? I looked on the DOL website and can't find anything.
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: gaddy on May 19, 2011, 04:34:41 PM: Quote from: Huntbear on May 16, 2011, 05:30:05 PM
I thought you had to register your wives and such to use them as boats???? :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :chuckle:

only if they float and carry a certain tonnage
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: Swatson on May 19, 2011, 08:52:13 PM: Quote from: Sneaky on May 19, 2011, 04:15:45 PM
anyone know where this information can be found? I looked on the DOL website and can't find anything.

Sneaky, I heard it directly from the mouth of one of our marine patrol units. I know this doesn't give you a whole lot of peace of mind so I will attempt to find out where exactly it is where you can find it.
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: goosegetter79 on May 19, 2011, 09:26:47 PM: Quote from: Sneaky on May 19, 2011, 04:15:45 PM
anyone know where this information can be found? I looked on the DOL website and can't find anything.

Is this the info you wanted sneaky?

http://boat.wa.gov/register.asp (http://boat.wa.gov/register.asp)
Boat Title, Registration, and Renewal

To navigate, operate, employ, or moor your vessel in Washington, you must have a Washington title, registration card, and registration decals, except:

If your vessel is a canoe, kayak, or a vessel not propelled by a motor or sail.
If your vessel is less than 16 feet in length and has a motor of 10 horsepower or less and is used on non-federal waters only.
If your vessel is properly registered by a resident of another state or country who uses Washington waters for 60 days or fewer.
The registration card must be onboard whenever you use your vessel.
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: Sneaky on May 20, 2011, 10:04:22 AM: Thats the stuff! Thanks
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: KopperBuck on May 20, 2011, 11:09:06 AM: Ok... so I have a little 10ft. No motor yet, and I wouldn't go above 10hp. But it was bought and registered in MT.

Do I have to register it in WA since it was bought out of state (no sales tax)?

Interested b/c I have heard several different versions. I've got the title on it, all I need to do is declare value. Having the same issue with the trailer. It wasn't manufactured, classified as homemade. How would you declare a value?
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: cwuwildcat on May 20, 2011, 02:00:06 PM: I've been told my dinghy should be registered as a deadly weapon, as it's torn up a few ports of call, but that's another matter! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: Swatson on May 22, 2011, 12:00:11 PM: Quote from: KopperBuck on May 20, 2011, 11:09:06 AM
Ok... so I have a little 10ft. No motor yet, and I wouldn't go above 10hp. But it was bought and registered in MT.

Do I have to register it in WA since it was bought out of state (no sales tax)?

Interested b/c I have heard several different versions. I've got the title on it, all I need to do is declare value. Having the same issue with the trailer. It wasn't manufactured, classified as homemade. How would you declare a value?

You do not have to register it!
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: KopperBuck on May 23, 2011, 09:33:12 AM: Interesting... so I can bring something in from out of state that no sales tax was paid on and not have to worry about WA wanting their cut?
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: JLS on May 23, 2011, 10:03:50 AM: Quote from: KopperBuck on May 20, 2011, 11:09:06 AM
Ok... so I have a little 10ft. No motor yet, and I wouldn't go above 10hp. But it was bought and registered in MT.

Do I have to register it in WA since it was bought out of state (no sales tax)?

Interested b/c I have heard several different versions. I've got the title on it, all I need to do is declare value. Having the same issue with the trailer. It wasn't manufactured, classified as homemade. How would you declare a value?

Just don't overlook the federal waters issue. People forget about registrations and flares for small craft.
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: jeepster on May 23, 2011, 01:52:33 PM: i have wondered the same.... i always thought maybe they had a big boat and used thier dinghy as a tender.... also, its easier to track a stolen boat if its registered....

just my personal thought however, it may be alot easier to transport a registered boat on a registered trailer vs just having tabs on the trailer?

i used to have a 14.5 runabout that i had a 15hp on, but got the stickers for a 9.9hp engine and re-badged it.... fished it for years with no problems from the man. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: Swatson on May 23, 2011, 03:53:25 PM: Yep, bought a drift boat brand new from a company in Oregon. Never had to do anything with the boat, just the trailer.
Title: Re: Why do so many people register their dinghys???
Post by: AWS on May 23, 2011, 06:48:57 PM: I just spent the day researching this subject. The list of navigable (federally controlled) waters is availible fron the Coast Guard. I picked up a Marsh rat and have an electic motor on it.

Here's the link to the list.
http://www.uscg.mil/d13/docs/CG_Navigable_Waterways.pdf (http://www.uscg.mil/d13/docs/CG_Navigable_Waterways.pdf)

AWS