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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: sneakyjake on May 16, 2011, 10:36:43 AM

Title: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: sneakyjake on May 16, 2011, 10:36:43 AM: Was told that there was a huge private timber sale between Kid Valley and the observatory blocking access into the Margaret. Would love some specifics before I put in for my permits. I have made a lot of calls and have not gotten any answers. Thanks. Jeff
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on May 16, 2011, 09:43:01 PM: Pretty sure it is the schultz creek area...
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: HntnFsh on May 17, 2011, 08:32:44 AM: Yep!
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: sneakyjake on May 17, 2011, 08:56:25 AM: How big of an area is it? Does it block access into the unit off of Spirit Hwy? Can I still legally hike back to Elk Lake?
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: bucklucky on May 17, 2011, 09:22:11 AM: No more high mountain lakes, its all private. That whole end from Shultz Creek to almost Miners creek is done. No Trespassing period, no walking, no biking, no horses.
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: sneakyjake on May 17, 2011, 11:33:17 AM: WTF. That sucks. Thanks for the info guys. I really appreciate it. That is what this site is all about.
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: HntnFsh on May 17, 2011, 03:13:26 PM: I think it was 7000 acres
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: Rainstorm Hunter on May 17, 2011, 05:23:07 PM: Anyone know who bought it??
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: bucklucky on May 17, 2011, 07:11:52 PM: I cant remember the name but ut was a private bow cutting company if I remember correctly??? I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: Rainstorm Hunter on May 17, 2011, 07:25:14 PM: That would sound right. Before Weyerhaeuser sold it they picked the bows off the noble firs up there in the fall.
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: MuleDeerCrazy on May 17, 2011, 08:19:16 PM: I heard from a reliable source that Dan Agnew was the one that purchased it, maybe under a company name... not sure. I know everybody is bummed that whole area around Schultz Creek is "locked up," but the Margaret Unit is so much bigger than that. It wouldn't phase me a bit to apply for a Margaret tag, even if I couldn't hunt Schultz Creek... matter of fact I'd avoid Schultz Creek even if I could hunt it just to get away from everybody that thinks that's the only place to kill a good bull.
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: huntingfool7 on May 17, 2011, 10:48:44 PM: That is the best part of that unit. Talk to the biologists (I did last year) they'll tell you that's where they would have gone.
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: bobcat on May 17, 2011, 11:32:08 PM: I just looked it up on the Cowlitz County GIS. This is the owner of all that land:

ST HELENS NOBLE FARMS LLC
PO BOX 579
CENTRALIA
WA
98531
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: bobcat on May 17, 2011, 11:35:22 PM: I see it being one of those PLWMA's in the near future. I wonder how much money those elk tags will sell for?
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: elkslayer069 on May 17, 2011, 11:40:17 PM: Depends on how much money you have.
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: kstrohn7 on May 18, 2011, 09:14:36 AM: Is this a different sale from last year?
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: bucklucky on May 18, 2011, 11:16:26 AM: Same sale.
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: huntaddict on May 18, 2011, 03:16:15 PM: I had a tag last year and tried to get permision to hunt shultz creek and had no luck. I even offered to pay.
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: Red Leg on May 18, 2011, 06:44:14 PM: I have no info on that timber cut.
Is there a map of that shows the ST HELENS NOBLE FARMS property boundary? I had a cow tag there years ago and was in that area. After cutting up that elk and getting ready to leave. Had a heard of 30 plus elk cross the log road in front of me about a 100 yards away
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: bobcat on May 18, 2011, 08:28:15 PM: Quote from: Red Leg on May 18, 2011, 06:44:14 PM
I have no info on that timber cut.
Is there a map of that shows the ST HELENS NOBLE FARMS property boundary? I had a cow tag there years ago and was in that area. After cutting up that elk and getting ready to leave. Had a heard of 30 plus elk cross the log road in front of me about a 100 yards away

Yes, just go to Cowlitz County's GIS map.
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: sneakyjake on May 19, 2011, 08:56:26 AM: Thanks for the GIS idea. Don't know why I didn't think of it. The property boundaries differ from the gohunt public land. GNF line runs North South right through Forest Lake. So the Elk Lake area is public. Was this an exchange with Weyer, or was it always public?
Title: Re: Looking for info on the timber sale East of Kid Valley
Post by: HntnFsh on May 19, 2011, 06:44:33 PM: Weyco sold it.